Anyone know how to make your allies use their powers and tactics them selves?

[Q]

I remember in the persona games you could just adjust them in tactics, It doesn't seem to be working in this one.

[REBirthTheEdge]

You will gain control of them after awhile, do not worry.

[Q]

I don't want to control them is the thing. I want to let them just do their own attacks. I would like to just control my own character.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by Alpha Q23:

I don't want to control them is the thing. I want to let them just do their own attacks. I would like to just control my own character.

There is an auto battle feature but it will make the MC auto battle too.

[Q]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by Alpha Q23:

I don't want to control them is the thing. I want to let them just do their own attacks. I would like to just control my own character.

There is an auto battle feature but it will make the MC auto battle too.

I saw that. I was hoping there is a way for it to be auto everyone except the MC :(

[fireheart126]

To be fair... the differences in this game's battle system and Persona's... you do *NOT* want your party members at the mercy of AI.

[Q]

Originally posted by fireheart126:

To be fair... the differences in this game's battle system and Persona's... you do *NOT* want your party members at the mercy of AI.

Even in games like BG3 Id rather just let my part do them selves, Same with this game.

[fireheart126]

You have clearly not played the original version of Persona 3, because you would not be saying this otherwise. Go play that and experience Mitsuru's Marin Karin hell, and then come back.

[Q]

I don't care how the original Persona 3 is played. I prefer that style of game play Hence I am looking for a way to let my party be controlled by them selves.

[fireheart126]

And I'm saying that the Press Turn battle system that this game uses would very easily screw you over if you did play with just AI controlled party members.

Outside of Auto Battle, (which also removes control of MC) there is no way to relinquish control of non-Guest party members. If you want it, find or make a mod that does so.

[Xav]

Originally posted by fireheart126:

You have clearly not played the original version of Persona 3, because you would not be saying this otherwise. Go play that and experience Mitsuru's Marin Karin hell, and then come back.

It never fails that people bring up Persona 3 as an example of why party ai doesn't work. Persona 3. A game that came out in 2006. That was 18 years ago. I myself beat the original upside down and sideways and never had a problem (because the game difficulty was actually tailored to your party not always making the smartest decisions) but I will admit the party ai was lacking in that game... but there are other Persona games. Persona 4's party ai was much better and Persona 5's party ai was downright good.

[fireheart126]

Fair, but with Marin Karin spam (amongst other poor AI choices) being a large source of frustration and scarring for many players, and games with Press Turn systems (like this game, and mainline SMT since 3) being potentially very punishing towards significant errors, and I do not feel comfortable trusting an AI to make the decisions for me in this game at the very least

[Xav]

Originally posted by fireheart126:

Fair, but with Marin Karin spam (amongst other poor AI choices) being a large source of frustration and scarring for many players, and games with Press Turn systems (like this game, and mainline SMT since 3) being potentially very punishing towards significant errors, and I do not feel comfortable trusting an AI to make the decisions for me in this game at the very least

In my testing they haven't made any particularly bad decisions but it's definitely a preference.

Originally posted by Alpha Q23:

I don't care how the original Persona 3 is played. I prefer that style of game play Hence I am looking for a way to let my party be controlled by them selves.

More than a bit annoying but if you double tap the auto battle function you get the same result (that way you don't accidently auto-battle with the MC) however the big limitation is that you can only have one tactic for the whole party rather than per person.

[zero]

people avoided the question but there is a tactics menu in which you should be able to tell them to automatically fight.

as others said its a bad idea, but go nuts.

[Xav]

Originally posted by zero:

people avoided the question but there is a tactics menu in which you should be able to tell them to automatically fight.

as others said its a bad idea, but go nuts.

Not avoided. This only controls the tactics auto-battle function I mentioned which is a toggle able mode that is either off or on for your whole party. You have to double toggle it if you want to maintain control.

This only allows you to set auto battle tactics which makes the entire party auto-battle, (MC included). Ideally this would be a setting per character to allow fine tuning of tactics (like Persona)

In my testing on hard difficulty, the party AI does fine except for some very specific boss mechanics where they tend to defend when they don't have to (For example some bosses target a row, so as long as you move out of that row you can attack freely, the party will defend). Other than that, they will exploit, pass turns, and will even try to avoid overkill.

[Drake]

I never understood why some people want to just control the main char. If you can control one, you can control four, it's just a bigger pool of skills.
It's better to know what attacks the party will use so that you can synergize than be at the mercy of an AI.