Metaphor: ReFantazio

Metaphor: ReFantazio

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Nu_Naym Oct 25, 2024 @ 8:41am
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So now that the game is cracked will they remove Denuvo?
Now there's a cracked version about surely there's no point in keeping the DRM in the game right?

All it means now is paying customers get a worse product than those who get it for free
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ZiffyHead Oct 25, 2024 @ 8:47am 
But what about the "Denuvo can't be cracked fantasy?".
Clown Reemus Oct 25, 2024 @ 8:48am 
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Since paying customers don't get a worse product, there is no point to remove Denuvo before the license expires. Everything else is disinformation, slander or malicious lies.
Nu_Naym Oct 25, 2024 @ 8:54am 
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Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Since paying customers don't get a worse product, there is no point to remove Denuvo before the license expires. Everything else is disinformation, slander or malicious lies.

Always odd there are people willing to defend invasive DRM. Do they pay you at least?
Its been proven in multiple games that Denuvo has a negative impact on performance. It's not always a Tekken 7 level impact but it is there.

Even if I'm only loosing 4 or 5 fps I would now be getting a worse product by virtue of having to check in online to play the thing I paid for. This is something I wouldn't have to think about if I download the cracked version.

Doesn't matter how small the inconvenience or performance loss. Paying customers are now getting a worse product.
ZiffyHead Oct 25, 2024 @ 9:03am 
Denuvo is magical and doesn't obey the laws of physics!

LOL at It doesn't impact the system at all.

Everything that runs on your system impacts it or it isn't running on your system.


We keep hearing that Denuvo supernaturally runs without impacting performance at all, so it must be magic if it somehow uses no processor time or any system resources to function, because literally everything that runs on your computer uses both.

And unlike any other software ever built to run on a Micro Soft operating system that was designed from the ground up to spy on the machines and users it runs on, this magical Denuvo software can't be hacked.

LOL
Dregora Oct 25, 2024 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by ZiffyHead:
But what about the "Denuvo can't be cracked fantasy?".


There's literally one known person that's able to crack denuvo. Name any other security system where there's only one person being able to crack it?

You can say whatever you want about it, but it's darn effective for what it's trying.




Originally posted by ZiffyHead:
Denuvo is magical and doesn't obey the laws of physics!

LOL at It doesn't impact the system at all.

Everything that runs on your system impacts it or it isn't running on your system.


We keep hearing that Denuvo supernaturally runs without impacting performance at all, so it must be magic if it somehow uses no processor time or any system resources to function, because literally everything that runs on your computer uses both.

And unlike any other software ever built to run on a Micro Soft operating system that was designed from the ground up to spy on the machines and users it runs on, this magical Denuvo software can't be hacked.

LOL



Ofcourse it impacts performance. Just like leaving your browser open or any other program during gaming, depending on which, can have a bigger impact than other things.
Eclisis Oct 25, 2024 @ 9:10am 
they didn't crack denuvo, some fined away to mess with the demo and take away the limit on the demo
Nu_Naym Oct 25, 2024 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by Eclisis:
they didn't crack denuvo, some fined away to mess with the demo and take away the limit on the demo

Fair enough, still though, the question stands. There's a DRM free version floating around for whatever reason so why keep Denuvo?
Last edited by Nu_Naym; Oct 25, 2024 @ 9:20am
Clown Reemus Oct 25, 2024 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by Nu_Naym:
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Since paying customers don't get a worse product, there is no point to remove Denuvo before the license expires. Everything else is disinformation, slander or malicious lies.

Always odd there are people willing to defend invasive DRM. Do they pay you at least?
Its been proven in multiple games that Denuvo has a negative impact on performance. It's not always a Tekken 7 level impact but it is there.

Even if I'm only loosing 4 or 5 fps I would now be getting a worse product by virtue of having to check in online to play the thing I paid for. This is something I wouldn't have to think about if I download the cracked version.

Doesn't matter how small the inconvenience or performance loss. Paying customers are now getting a worse product.
The performance of Denuvo depends on the settings decided by the developers for each given game. In Fantazio, Denuvo doesn't impact the performance at all. In other games, it's the developer's fault, not Denuvo's.
Nu_Naym Oct 25, 2024 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Always odd there are people willing to defend invasive DRM. Do they pay you at least?
Its been proven in multiple games that Denuvo has a negative impact on performance. It's not always a Tekken 7 level impact but it is there.

Even if I'm only loosing 4 or 5 fps I would now be getting a worse product by virtue of having to check in online to play the thing I paid for. This is something I wouldn't have to think about if I download the cracked version.

Doesn't matter how small the inconvenience or performance loss. Paying customers are now getting a worse product.
The performance of Denuvo depends on the settings decided by the developers for each given game. In Fantazio, Denuvo doesn't impact the performance at all. In other games, it's the developer's fault, not Denuvo's.

So this magic software can run on a system without using ANY resources at all? And they use this techno-magic on DRM?
Clown Reemus Oct 25, 2024 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by Nu_Naym:
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
The performance of Denuvo depends on the settings decided by the developers for each given game. In Fantazio, Denuvo doesn't impact the performance at all. In other games, it's the developer's fault, not Denuvo's.

So this magic software can run on a system without using ANY resources at all? And they use this techno-magic on DRM?
It can run silently enough to have no impact on the game performance, which is the case with majority of titles with Denuvo. This should have answered all your questions, mark the thread resolved and evolve.
lpostini Oct 25, 2024 @ 10:43am 
the game is not been cracked but just bypassed. the updated version has denuvo and is not cracked anyway. so if pirates want to play it without bugs and with new contents they can't do it until they crack denuvo
Nu_Naym Oct 25, 2024 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

So this magic software can run on a system without using ANY resources at all? And they use this techno-magic on DRM?
It can run silently enough to have no impact on the game performance, which is the case with majority of titles with Denuvo. This should have answered all your questions, mark the thread resolved and evolve.

So the answer to my question of whether they'll remove denuvo because theres now denuvo-less version of the game is "denuvo doesn't impact the game"?

Honestly, I hope they pay shills like you well
Dregora Oct 25, 2024 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Nu_Naym:
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
It can run silently enough to have no impact on the game performance, which is the case with majority of titles with Denuvo. This should have answered all your questions, mark the thread resolved and evolve.

So the answer to my question of whether they'll remove denuvo because theres now denuvo-less version of the game is "denuvo doesn't impact the game"?

Honestly, I hope they pay shills like you well


It's a dishonest question because you and me both know nobody knows but the developers and you seem smart enough at least to realize the developers won't come here to read your singular thread about it being removed.

So the real reason you're here is to just kick against something you deem morally unjust. Nothing more, nothing less. Just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Clown Reemus Oct 25, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
Why is my answer still not pinned for this thread? DID I STUTTER??
Nu_Naym Oct 25, 2024 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Why is my answer still not pinned for this thread? DID I STUTTER??

You didn't answer my question?

"So now that the game is cracked will they remove Denuvo?"

Your response was what exactly? Jumping to the defence of a corporation who's product makes games worse and assumes every pc gamer is a pirate?

If a free, denuvo-less version is now available why still keep denuvo?

I would like very much to buy this game, as I have many other Atlus games, but since denuvo stopped me playing Persona 5: Strikers until I connected the laptop I downloaded it on to the internet, (Which I couldn't do due to travel, hence the use of a laptop and not my PC) I simply will not buy another game with this trash in it anymore.

It simply does not benefit the end user of the product and treats paying customers like thieves.
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