Metaphor: ReFantazio

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[Minor Spoilers] Continuity foul!
As this post will show up as a preview when the tread is moused over from the forum's list of threads and spoiler tags don't work in that preview, I will post my actual message momentarily in the next post.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I'm trying not to spoil anything for people who don't want spoilers.
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Outpost Omega 5 Oct 23, 2024 @ 2:57am 
During Eupha's awakening scene, the helmet they are wearing breaks into multiple pieces. Yet, the very next day when you are riding on the gauntlet runner, you see them polishing their broken helmet which is restored to a single piece.

*Yes, I know how to use gendered pronouns such as "he" and "she". I'm trying to avoid spoilers. Grammar police can go take a long walk off a short cliff.
Freya Crescent Oct 23, 2024 @ 3:32am 
A similar continuity issue: When you go to the Ishkia town south of Altabury (Malva, I think?) and do the chat Small Talk option with the town, Eupha will comment about the goats in the area and remark "We didn't have them on the island!"

This is false. Not only are there goats inside the town of Eht Ria, but the first time you can walk around one of the Mustari NPCs there is tending to a pair of them, and you can talk to him. Doing say has him remark that you, a foreigner, 'Must have come to steal our livestock!'

Not only are there goats on Eupha's island, in her town, at the time that we arrive, but they are closely guarded and openly spoken about by the NPCs.
Clown Reemus Oct 23, 2024 @ 3:53am 
Another issue is in the beginning, when you are told about the prince's assassination attempt. Grias says that "after the attempt, the prince never woke up", but before that you see a few clips of the prince still active while cursed, e.g. when he and the protagonist are first seen talking to each ot her.

It seems the game was worked on by too many intern/junior narrative designers, and they didn't double check each other's work.
Last edited by Clown Reemus; Oct 23, 2024 @ 3:55am
Freya Crescent Oct 23, 2024 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Another issue is in the beginning, when you are told about the prince's assassination attempt. Grias says that "after the attempt, the prince never woke up", but before that you see a few clips of the prince still active while cursed, e.g. when he and the protagonist are first seen talking to each ot her.

It seems the game was worked on by too many intern/junior narrative designers, and they didn't double check each other's work.

I'm going to put the following in spoiler format, since it's from the last month or so of the game. Very spoilery. You have been warned.

We find out that the MC is actually the Prince's soul given life by his desperation and anxiety brought on by the curse, and that 'we' never really existed to begin with. We were 'born' only a few hours before the time we start the game on the carriage with Gallica, whose memories were altered to think we were there the whole time.

We appear, memoryless in that same field of flowers from the cutscene you mentioned. In the scene that details our spontaneous formation, we see the Prince being taken into the Elda Sanctum as he collapses from the curse spreading across his chest. In the scene you mention, it is very likely that is either a false memory implanted by benefactor or a sort of 'internalized fantasy' of the original Prince thinking of an alter ego of himself as he reads the book.


At any rate, it is possible to explain that scene in universe, occuring before the effects of the Curse were fully known and before he collapsed fully... but if you can't read that above spoiler I can't say more.
Last edited by Freya Crescent; Oct 23, 2024 @ 4:16am
Clown Reemus Oct 23, 2024 @ 4:21am 
Alright, I will refrain from reading for now, but at this point in the story where I am it sounsded like a very "out of place" remark by Grius.
Last edited by Clown Reemus; Oct 23, 2024 @ 4:22am
hewittlemming Oct 23, 2024 @ 4:37am 
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Alright, I will refrain from reading for now, but at this point in the story where I am it sounsded like a very "out of place" remark by Grius.
That's by design, the prince situation is very much a mystery you're unrevealing as you go.
Broso Oct 23, 2024 @ 5:35am 
Dude, they're literally ripping out their hearts during the awakening scenes, yet after, they're still inside their chests, beating away like nothing happened. The point is, take those scenes more figuratively than literally.
Last edited by Broso; Oct 23, 2024 @ 5:35am
archonsod Oct 23, 2024 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Clown Reemus:
Alright, I will refrain from reading for now, but at this point in the story where I am it sounsded like a very "out of place" remark by Grius.
Nah, note Grius also doesn't recognise the MC, only Gallica. It's similar later when (spoiler for those who haven't yet recruited the fifth character) Junah only recognises Gallica by name, and while Gallica was aware they had a second agent she didn't know who it was. The natural conclusion at that point would be Grius hasn't actually been to the sanctum - they're portraying the pro-prince conspiracy as being your typical cell structured covert organisation.
Mayo Oct 23, 2024 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by Outpost Omega 5:
During Eupha's awakening scene, the helmet they are wearing breaks into multiple pieces. Yet, the very next day when you are riding on the gauntlet runner, you see them polishing their broken helmet which is restored to a single piece.

I just handwaved it as that the Mustari aren't bound to one helmet for life, particularly for hygiene reasons. The helmet shattering is symbolic but doesn't mean that all helmets shattered at the same time.
Outpost Omega 5 Oct 25, 2024 @ 10:30pm 
Originally posted by Mayo:
I just handwaved it as that the Mustari aren't bound to one helmet for life, particularly for hygiene reasons. The helmet shattering is symbolic but doesn't mean that all helmets shattered at the same time.

Quit ruining my indignant huff with rational logic! 😤
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