Metaphor: ReFantazio

Metaphor: ReFantazio

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wonderpookie Oct 20, 2024 @ 12:16am
Damn You AUTOSAVE!
Beat boss... game autosaved.

Great.

Next time I play game, I (accidentally) load up a pre-boss save... game autosaves... now I need to fight the boss again.

Anyone else been burnt by this save system?
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Outpost Omega 5 Oct 20, 2024 @ 12:47am 
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Autosaves are combination convenience/fail safe feature. If you put your faith in them as a primary save function, your just asking to get burned. After all, as you just discovered, you can't control when they get overwritten.

Take this as a lesson learned.
Pencillus Sedatus Oct 20, 2024 @ 1:55am 
autosaves is awesome, they saves before you open a treasure chest, then if I got killed by any of the bosses later I will get loaded there instead of the beginning of the dungeon
ShockedHearts Oct 20, 2024 @ 2:00am 
and this is why you ignore autosaves and just manually save before getting off.

I dont think ive ever used an autosave... EVER in a game. they are just impractical and make my save menu look ugly.

especially games that force you to have 35 autosaves mixed in with your single manual save. thats genuinely something I hate to see.
wonderpookie Oct 20, 2024 @ 2:07am 
Originally posted by ShockedHearts:
especially games that force you to have 35 autosaves mixed in with your single manual save. thats genuinely something I hate to see.

BG3 has more than one autosave slot, right?

I'm a save scummer so really should have known better. Luckily, I find the spectacle of a boss fight in this game, highly entertaining! :)
Leziropav Oct 20, 2024 @ 10:03am 
the game have 16 manual slot, use it
Fuhrer Oct 20, 2024 @ 10:16am 
Imagine not manually saving.
Zeev Oct 20, 2024 @ 10:40am 
On PS5 I fill the 16 slots every 2 hours.
I think I have played for about 40 jours, so I guess I have saved by now 80 times? Maybe more.
Outpost Omega 5 Oct 20, 2024 @ 6:48pm 
The first five save slots have dedicated purposes to me. Slot 5 is used for major story events, such as the completion of a major dungeon, or the beginning of the count down of days for a new dungeon.

Slot 4 is used for after significant investments of effort with the scope of a slot 5 save. For example, I just spent four real time hours clearing out the surrounding side quest dungeons.

Slot 3 is used at the start of every single in-game day (that game actually allows me to save). People who go weeks or months of in-game time without saving (when the game didn't forbid them from doing so) get NO sympathy from me when their failure to save bites them in the ass.

Slot 2 is to slot 3 as slot 4 is to slot 5.

Slot 1 is my go to every other moment save slot.

Using that logic, it is nigh impossible to soft lock myself, or have to use a save file that goes back well past significant events just to undo one mistake.
Last edited by Outpost Omega 5; Oct 20, 2024 @ 8:11pm
ShockedHearts Oct 20, 2024 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by wonderpookie:
Originally posted by ShockedHearts:
especially games that force you to have 35 autosaves mixed in with your single manual save. thats genuinely something I hate to see.

BG3 has more than one autosave slot, right?

I'm a save scummer so really should have known better. Luckily, I find the spectacle of a boss fight in this game, highly entertaining! :)
in BG3 you can edit the amount of autosaves you want, so I disabled mine :)
moshiwakeda Oct 20, 2024 @ 6:56pm 
For these time management games I rotate through all save slots. I save at the start of each time segment, then use the next available slot
I don't trust autosave in most games
Outpost Omega 5 Oct 20, 2024 @ 8:15pm 
Originally posted by ShockedHearts:
in BG3 you can edit the amount of autosaves you want, so I disabled mine :)

While multiple auto saves cluttering up your save file list, especially if they aren't grouped all together in one place, is really annoying, I do typically leave ONE auto-save functional. I don't rely on it for anything (my mantra is "Save; Save again; Keep saving; Did you already save? Doesn't matter, save one more time after you save this time"), on RARE occasions, it has proved useful to have that save.
maethlin Oct 22, 2024 @ 8:46pm 
While I agree w/people saying "just save manually" because I'm an obsessive saver, nobody is pointing out that there are some dungeons (looking at you dragon temple) that are INSANELY long, with literal hours of gameplay between save areas.

Given that autosave kicks off before every chest, I really wish ATLUS just let us save wherever we want. Why limit it? Such a poor quality of life decision.

Yes it's nice that it autosaves at chests, but that is unreliable as already pointed out, and sometimes when it's 3am and you've been playing too long already and you weren't planning on a 4hr dungeon, you just want to save and go to sleep safely knowing you can pick up tomorrow.
Outpost Omega 5 Oct 22, 2024 @ 11:10pm 
Originally posted by maethlin:
Yes it's nice that it autosaves at chests, but that is unreliable as already pointed out, and sometimes when it's 3am and you've been playing too long already and you weren't planning on a 4hr dungeon, you just want to save and go to sleep safely knowing you can pick up tomorrow.

In my family, that is what we call a "mom save", as in mother is threatening to pull out the power plug on the computer if you don't shut down and go to bed. ALL game should have a dedicated "mom save" slot. It doesn't even have to be a persistent save. Upon saving, the game can automatically return to the title screen of the game, and upon loading, the save will self-delete.

I believe the Windows port of Persona 4 Golden had that feature specifically patched into it well after it's initial Steam release. Why subsequent Atlus games don't have it by default, I don't know.
Last edited by Outpost Omega 5; Oct 22, 2024 @ 11:11pm
REBirthTheEdge Oct 22, 2024 @ 11:25pm 
I honestly prefer manual saving but honestly this auto saving isn't that bad, it's not super abusable.
Zaph Oct 23, 2024 @ 12:15am 
I like the auto-save feature, but I pretty much manual save every day unless I am travelling to a place that is a multi-day event and nothing happens in the 2-3 days it takes to travel to the dungeon. I have 6 or 7 save slots being used right now in case I want to go back a few days and redo anything. I overwrite the older ones that are like 5+ hours back where I don't want to go that far back. Also, how did you load a previous save when the auto-save is the first load option, if you meant to load the auto-save?
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Date Posted: Oct 20, 2024 @ 12:16am
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