No Denuvo PLEASE

[MMaRsu]

I am a paying customer, do not treat us like pirates please.

[YanisRetro]

no way that's gonna happen, this is SEGA we're talking about.

[marcew44]

This is SEGA. I don't know why people still talk about it. You see SEGA as the publisher, you know its gonna have Denuvo.

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If they don't do it, I'll buy in.

[CheeseBoar]

SEGA put Denuvo into Genesis Sonic games, so it's absolutely going to be in this game, too. All we can hope is that Atlus accidentally releases a non-Denuvo version, which is actually a pretty decent possibility.

[Hozen]

Check the EULA, it mentions Denuvo, also it's ATLUS+Sega, ofc it has Denuvo. I wish it hadn't, or at least drop Denuvo after 6 Months Like Square is doing now, at this point I believe with Denuvo being a subscprition base model, SEGA must be one of their biggest cash cows, since they don't remove Denuvo ever...

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Originally posted by Hozen:

Check the EULA, it mentions Denuvo, also it's ATLUS+Sega, ofc it has Denuvo. I wish it hadn't, or at least drop Denuvo after 6 Months Like Square is doing now, at this point I believe with Denuvo being a subscprition base model, SEGA must be one of their biggest cash cows, since they don't remove Denuvo ever...

There's two alternative payment methods: a $0.50 royalty per game license activation, or a $25,000/mo fee.

Sega and EA are their two biggest cash cows currently, with Capcom and Square Enix as a secondary market. It's only those 4 who use it, and they're all idiots for doing so, considering the amount of money they're losing over an imaginary issue.

[matteste]

Originally posted by Garbage:

Originally posted by Hozen:

Check the EULA, it mentions Denuvo, also it's ATLUS+Sega, ofc it has Denuvo. I wish it hadn't, or at least drop Denuvo after 6 Months Like Square is doing now, at this point I believe with Denuvo being a subscprition base model, SEGA must be one of their biggest cash cows, since they don't remove Denuvo ever...

There's two alternative payment methods: a $0.50 royalty per game license activation, or a $25,000/mo fee.

Sega and EA are their two biggest cash cows currently, with Capcom and Square Enix as a secondary market. It's only those 4 who use it, and they're all idiots for doing so, considering the amount of money they're losing over an imaginary issue.

Pretty much, they are the only ones really falling for that snake oil. Of course, now Capcom have started with that Enigma crap as well. Rather than learning anything, they just further dig themselves in.

[Vitriolum Veneris]

Originally posted by Garbage:

Originally posted by Hozen:

Check the EULA, it mentions Denuvo, also it's ATLUS+Sega, ofc it has Denuvo. I wish it hadn't, or at least drop Denuvo after 6 Months Like Square is doing now, at this point I believe with Denuvo being a subscprition base model, SEGA must be one of their biggest cash cows, since they don't remove Denuvo ever...

There's two alternative payment methods: a $0.50 royalty per game license activation, or a $25,000/mo fee.

Sega and EA are their two biggest cash cows currently, with Capcom and Square Enix as a secondary market. It's only those 4 who use it, and they're all idiots for doing so, considering the amount of money they're losing over an imaginary issue.

You forgot about Ubisoft.

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Originally posted by Fjara Sólstafir:

Originally posted by Garbage:

There's two alternative payment methods: a $0.50 royalty per game license activation, or a $25,000/mo fee.

Sega and EA are their two biggest cash cows currently, with Capcom and Square Enix as a secondary market. It's only those 4 who use it, and they're all idiots for doing so, considering the amount of money they're losing over an imaginary issue.

You forgot about Ubisoft.

Yeah but who the hell cares about them?

[Vitriolum Veneris]

Originally posted by Garbage:

Originally posted by Fjara Sólstafir:

You forgot about Ubisoft.

Yeah but who the hell cares about them?

No one, well, at least no one should anyway. I am only bringing them up because they're also notorious for their use of Denuvo. So, what I meant was, not just "only those 4".

[iemander]

Does it really matter at this point? I feel games only really have problem with DRM once they start using some custom solution instead of Denuvo.

[WhitePhantom]

Originally posted by iemander:

Does it really matter at this point? I feel games only really have problem with DRM once they start using some custom solution instead of Denuvo.

It doesn't matter for 99.9% of people.

The players who want the game will buy it and won't notice anything.

The publishers won't lose any sleep over those 5 copies they didn't sell because of DRM.

[marcew44]

Originally posted by iemander:

Does it really matter at this point? I feel games only really have problem with DRM once they start using some custom solution instead of Denuvo.

Not really, the majority of people doesn't even know what DRM is, let alone what Denuvo is and what it does. Although Denuvo really hurts people who benchmark games because of that "PC activation" limit.

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Originally posted by marcew44:

Originally posted by iemander:

Does it really matter at this point? I feel games only really have problem with DRM once they start using some custom solution instead of Denuvo.

Not really, the majority of people doesn't even know what DRM is, let alone what Denuvo is and what it does. Although Denuvo really hurts people who benchmark games because of that "PC activation" limit.

It also craps on Proton and Irdeto's parent company are somehow even more malicious and duplicitous than Irdeto themselves.

[Cypherous]

Originally posted by matteste:

Originally posted by Garbage:

There's two alternative payment methods: a $0.50 royalty per game license activation, or a $25,000/mo fee.

Sega and EA are their two biggest cash cows currently, with Capcom and Square Enix as a secondary market. It's only those 4 who use it, and they're all idiots for doing so, considering the amount of money they're losing over an imaginary issue.

Pretty much, they are the only ones really falling for that snake oil. Of course, now Capcom have started with that Enigma crap as well. Rather than learning anything, they just further dig themselves in.

It's not snake oil if it works though, there are lots of denuvo games that don't get cracked, although this being a higher profile one it's more likely to be looked at, from what I understand there are only a couple of denuvo crackers so it's actually proven to be decent at preventing a day 1 release which is what they are after