Possiblity of non-vr?

[Hyde]

I can't do the VR, as I get incredibly motion sick. I don't even get motion sick in real life which is the real kicker. Given that, I was really hoping a normal version might come out. If not, I get it, but man it sucks missing out on a Metro title just because my body says no to the VR part. Even if it is later down the line, would be nice to be able to experience this firsthand.

[V I D A L]

Pay attention to the store page. This is not a A4 game published by Deep Silver.
It's developed and published by Vertigo, studio that ONLY makes VR games. So no. It will be a VR exclusive. Basically Vertigo licensed the brand to make a VR Metro. It's not made by the same devs that develops the main series.

[Hyde]

Originally posted by John Shidder:

just respawn with better genetics.

Bro I'm gonna do the challenge run on my first go, I can't back out now.

[Hyde]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

Pay attention to the store page. This is not a A4 game published by Deep Silver.
It's developed and published by Vertigo, studio that ONLY makes VR games. So no. It will be a VR exclusive. Basically Vertigo licensed the brand to make a VR Metro. It's not made by the same devs that develops the main series.

I will be honest I paid attention only to Metro and VR haha. Thank you for the info!

[FilthyAnimal]

Originally posted by Hyde:

I can't do the VR, as I get incredibly motion sick. I don't even get motion sick in real life which is the real kicker. Given that, I was really hoping a normal version might come out. If not, I get it, but man it sucks missing out on a Metro title just because my body says no to the VR part. Even if it is later down the line, would be nice to be able to experience this firsthand.

its not a main game in the series just a spin off

[DsP]

Where did you even get the idea that you have VR sickness? Did you try it once and got sick? It's like riding a bycicle for the first time - you will fall because nothing will work out the first time. You need to gradually get used to it, over several sessions, a few days maybe a couple of weeks, and there are various ways to remove the VR sickness. Even kindergarteners, old women, and disabled people are able play VR games and don't complain.

[temps]

You can get over motion sickness. Just play Space Pirate Trainer for a while, then move on to Pistol Whip. Play in small amounts until it becomes comfortable.

[Hyde]

Originally posted by DsP:

Where did you even get the idea that you have VR sickness? Did you try it once and got sick? It's like riding a bycicle for the first time - you will fall because nothing will work out the first time. You need to gradually get used to it, over several sessions, a few days maybe a couple of weeks, and there are various ways to remove the VR sickness. Even kindergarteners, old women, and disabled people are able play VR games and don't complain.

I've tried it a few times and got violently sick all 3 times. Due to other health conditions, getting sick like that can cause complications for me that result in going to the hospital. Before you start belittling someone, maybe think a little bit further and realize we don't all live within the same set of circumstances, let alone bodies that function properly. Diabetic people can't eat candy, but even kindergarteners, old women, and disabled people are able to eat a handful of candy and don't complain or die. If you end up diabetic are you going to go eat a bunch of candy because those other groups of people generally can? I could keep going on a list of conditions that prevent people from doing things that *insert groups here* are able to do, but at the end of it all you're still just a pompous dolt.

[Mc.Sug4r]

Originally posted by Hyde:

Originally posted by DsP:

Where did you even get the idea that you have VR sickness? Did you try it once and got sick? It's like riding a bycicle for the first time - you will fall because nothing will work out the first time. You need to gradually get used to it, over several sessions, a few days maybe a couple of weeks, and there are various ways to remove the VR sickness. Even kindergarteners, old women, and disabled people are able play VR games and don't complain.

I've tried it a few times and got violently sick all 3 times. Due to other health conditions, getting sick like that can cause complications for me that result in going to the hospital. Before you start belittling someone, maybe think a little bit further and realize we don't all live within the same set of circumstances, let alone bodies that function properly. Diabetic people can't eat candy, but even kindergarteners, old women, and disabled people are able to eat a handful of candy and don't complain or die. If you end up diabetic are you going to go eat a bunch of candy because those other groups of people generally can? I could keep going on a list of conditions that prevent people from doing things that *insert groups here* are able to do, but at the end of it all you're still just a pompous dolt.

It is fact that there are people who might have a problem overcoming these problems. You are however a minority. Most people can overcome it, that´s just a fact. I´m sorry that some can´t do that, but that is no reason for not doing VR games for the rest...

[Hyde]

Originally posted by Mc.Sug4r:

Originally posted by Hyde:

I've tried it a few times and got violently sick all 3 times. Due to other health conditions, getting sick like that can cause complications for me that result in going to the hospital. Before you start belittling someone, maybe think a little bit further and realize we don't all live within the same set of circumstances, let alone bodies that function properly. Diabetic people can't eat candy, but even kindergarteners, old women, and disabled people are able to eat a handful of candy and don't complain or die. If you end up diabetic are you going to go eat a bunch of candy because those other groups of people generally can? I could keep going on a list of conditions that prevent people from doing things that *insert groups here* are able to do, but at the end of it all you're still just a pompous dolt.

It is fact that there are people who might have a problem overcoming these problems. You are however a minority. Most people can overcome it, that´s just a fact. I´m sorry that some can´t do that, but that is no reason for not doing VR games for the rest...

I never said there shouldn't be VR games, and I do believe it is a step forward in gaming even if it still has a long way to go. I simply don't appreciate someone going out of there way to belittle others for no reason. I do understand I'm in the minority, and I'm glad about that. I'm sorry if something I said somewhere implied I didn't think they should exist, as I don't believe that at all.

[bronsky]

The game will be designed for VR, by a dev team specialized in VR. So no, there is no hope that there will ever be a flat version, except if some modders work on it, which is highly unlikely. But in any case, as for Alyx, it would be pointless. The best thing to do would be to watch playthroughs on Youtube after the release.

[nwad]

Originally posted by DsP:

Where did you even get the idea that you have VR sickness? Did you try it once and got sick? It's like riding a bycicle for the first time - you will fall because nothing will work out the first time. You need to gradually get used to it, over several sessions, a few days maybe a couple of weeks, and there are various ways to remove the VR sickness. Even kindergarteners, old women, and disabled people are able play VR games and don't complain.

Not everyone gets used to it. I tried to play Alyx on Index almost every day for a month straight and had to give up due to motion sickness. My Index is gathering dust now. I know a family who sold their Rift S because their kids couldn't stop getting sick trying to use it after several months. Taking dramamine every day isn't an option. So yeah, for people like us, easy pass.

[BUzer]

Yeah the VR motion sickness is still an issue, people should stop pretending it isn't.

I play VR for 2 years, I have almost 3000 hours in VRChat (all in VR). I don't play anything else (except Beat Saber) because I still get motion sick from locomotion. I have a few friends like that as well, we spend hours in VR dancing and hanging out every day, but we quickly get dizzy in games like Pavlov.

I could play those games if they support the teleport locomotion. But it's a huge immersion breaker, I would tolerate it only for a very high quality game like Alyx.

[Eldritch Panda]

Originally posted by BUzer:

Yeah the VR motion sickness is still an issue, people should stop pretending it isn't.

I play VR for 2 years, I have almost 3000 hours in VRChat (all in VR). I don't play anything else (except Beat Saber) because I still get motion sick from locomotion. I have a few friends like that as well, we spend hours in VR dancing and hanging out every day, but we quickly get dizzy in games like Pavlov.

I could play those games if they support the teleport locomotion. But it's a huge immersion breaker, I would tolerate it only for a very high quality game like Alyx.

Uh, what do you mean people pretend that it isn't?

Not everyone gets motion sick.

Also to OP, there is another Metro game being made that isn't VR, this one was just licensed to a different studio which means resources aren't being bogged down for this game. Regardless why are you guys so upset VR is finally getting games, seems to me that most of the people complaining don't have VR at all or good set ups.

If you get motion sick, don't play VR and don't complain about it and don't throw a temper tantrum when other people tell you off (OP)

[BUzer]

Originally posted by Eldritch Panda:

Uh, what do you mean people pretend that it isn't?

People treat it as some user issue that can be quickly solved with pills or overcoming. And when it doesn't help they'd just say "oh you're a minority and you don't matter".
That's basically sweeping the problem under the rug.

[bronsky]

It's virtually impossible to get motion sick with static VR games, like you mentioned it.
The problem concerns free locomotion for some people, and I agree major VR games should offer comfort options like teleportation.