Is RDR1 boring compared to RDR2?

[PeaceThroughPower]

What makes RDR1 fun? The world seems dead.

[Khal'cynee]

Grantorino の投稿を引用：

Red Dead 1 has less cut scenes and interactions. RDR2 is alot like Metal Gear Solid 4. It has way better gameplay but way more cutscenes.

you dare comparing RDR2 to MGS lmao
RDR2 is like an old ass rail shooter, you control 50 % of what you're character is doing

[PeaceThroughPower]

Corso の投稿を引用：

PeaceThroughPower の投稿を引用：

What makes RDR1 fun? The world seems dead.

if you want a western SIMULATOR play rdr2, if you want a western GAME play rdr1

Why in the world would anyone want a western game?

[Jazzwingo]

PeaceThroughPower の投稿を引用：

Corso の投稿を引用：

if you want a western SIMULATOR play rdr2, if you want a western GAME play rdr1

Why in the world would anyone want a western game?

Because they're fun.

[pauldiazberrio]

Khal'cynee の投稿を引用：

Grantorino の投稿を引用：

Red Dead 1 has less cut scenes and interactions. RDR2 is alot like Metal Gear Solid 4. It has way better gameplay but way more cutscenes.

you dare comparing RDR2 to MGS lmao
RDR2 is like an old ass rail shooter, you control 50 % of what you're character is doing

Hey, don't go confusing genres. Rail shooters are action only oriented games, that keep spawning enemies until you reach the end of the level. Take Die Hard Trilogy's Die Hard 2 for example. Okay, you may be able to move on your own in RDR2, but flocks of enemies don't come at you until you reach a specific point in the map.

[Dagg]

PeaceThroughPower の投稿を引用：

KHR3b の投稿を引用：

RDR1 is way more GTA: Wild West edition than RDR2; so it's way more action packed; and it's actually feels like a GAME, not some MOVIE poorly triyng to be "ImMeRsIVe" and "ReALiStIc".
So, totally not.

You have a point, I noticed that John Marston has a different character compared to RDR2. In RDR1, he goes on a murderous rampage the moment he sets foot in Armadillo. Must be why it's repetitive and boring, RDR2 is like an interactive movie. When you actually beat RDR2 and finish the story, it's hard to even play other games because it's just that damn good.

I think RDR1 is the better game. RDR2 is superior in many ways to the first one but I always felt like RDR1 has more soul and that can lift a game above another all by itself. I always think of Bethesda games when I think about that. I love their games but they rarely make my top 10 list because I feel like Bethesda has always had a problem putting soul into their games which in the end makes them feel somewhat hollow to me. RDR2 gives me that same feeling though not to the extent Bethesda games do.

[shy]

its honestly like if gta 4 had more depth to it in a good way

[shy]

calling the world dead is crazy though. this was a very lively open world for 2010

[hatta]

Dagg の投稿を引用：

I always think of Bethesda games when I think about that. I love their games but they rarely make my top 10 list because I feel like Bethesda has always had a problem putting soul into their games which in the end makes them feel somewhat hollow to me. RDR2 gives me that same feeling though not to the extent Bethesda games do.

I would say "Fallout 3 2008" has no narrative design, and that's why I barely understood it the first time I played through it. But then, thinking about it a second time, I say "Fallout 3 2008" has soul.

but just like many other games in the Gothic fiction genre (specifically Gothic 2 2002, partly Days Gone 2019) you can say that this game was created by "sleepwalking"
that is:
it was built in a few months, the developer didn't sleep for days, can't remember any game design decision, why everything was done so right.
The male enthusiast developer doesn't understand this game himself, and the female developer who only does her commissioned work doesn't play the own game.


I think the best way to understand a Rockstar game is to watch the 100% Challenge and follow the One Piece anime.

100% Challenge:
GTA6 is definitely finished now, a year before release. However, the 100% challenges are not yet finished, so everything is still being polished. And the developers spend the last year before release just playing their own game to think of these perfect 100% challenges.

One Piece:
All Rockstar Games games are like that because of this "Dan Houser - Eiichirō Oda" continuum feeling.
RDR2 goes in the Cookie Cutter direction, and thus turns away from this continuum feeling.

[Shooter]

I refunded the game after an hour of play time. I have played 2 from start to finish and that was a great game. One is lacking the immersion for me and the graphics are poor for a $50.00 game. It just feels poorly done.

[Corso]

Shooter の投稿を引用：

I refunded the game after an hour of play time. I have played 2 from start to finish and that was a great game. One is lacking the immersion for me and the graphics are poor for a $50.00 game. It just feels poorly done.

As you progress through one, you totally forget you are playing a 15 year old game. The beginning missions are all tutorial and rush you to try and get things done and figure things out. Once you do and the game opens up more and lets you pace yourself, you get a better look at just how gorgeous this is. The horses look amazing. The violence is brutal. And the comedic undertone to basically everything really starts to shine.
Shame you refunded after an hour, or even let's say 4 hours. Those are the hardest to get through. The game as a whole is one of the best ever made.
And Rockstar will likely, going forward, never produce anything like it ever again in terms of quality and focus.

[Typically Thomas]

Shooter の投稿を引用：

I refunded the game after an hour of play time. I have played 2 from start to finish and that was a great game. One is lacking the immersion for me and the graphics are poor for a $50.00 game. It just feels poorly done.

Imagine having the patience for RDR2 (which takes forever to get anywhere) yet refunding RDR1 within an hour

[Veterinarius]

Played RDR 1 on Ps3 few times had a blast every time, for me it got that wild west feel just right. The world from wild west movies I imagined as a kid. Got RDR 2, got bored, gave it some time, went to other games, came back still got bored after 1- 2 missions. In RDR 1 Im still having a blast, after replaying it now for maybe 5 th time all in all between systems. Hell just yesterday I wanted to jump in before a date...I was almost late cause 30 mins I planned on playing ended in 1,5 hours without even noticing ...for me in RDR 1 time flies how fun it is, in RDR 2 I have to force myself to keep playing.

[Wicked]

1 has events in towns like people get randomly robbed or kidnapped. You can get randomly challenged by someone to a duel. Also outlaws sometimes attack Armadillo and bandits sometimes drag someone on a horse in Mexico. These things make RDR1 more alive. For me RDR2 was very boring. Towns are out of hourly behaviors are very dead. Slow movement, mandatory button smash for bathing and every minigame is slow af. Can't do bounty hunting if you finish them all. Also RDR1 has Liar's Dice.

[Corso]

PeaceThroughPower の投稿を引用：

What makes RDR1 fun? The world seems dead.

no. it's paced differently and there's less depth to it's systems but the violence is brutal (ragdolls and such) and the horses are nice looking, the script is good, characters are good. It feels more GTA than it does RDR2. The gambling is still fun and you can be a really really bad guy about things too if you want to. Most people go for an "honorable" playthrough, but you can be a dishonorable outlaw as well.