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BlackWater High Roller Poker
So the Poker Achievement and Outfit Challenge are also impossible to get aswell. This version of Red Dead has a AI program running in the background that basically Cheats you constantly at the high roller Black Water Poker Table

I just tried for a few hours and out of over 400 hands played I only got 56 cards on the table that made a min Pair or Higher

This also means the 100% Save File Achievement is also impossible aswell due to the outfit challenge

Just needed to use Sam Picker to unlock them but I will try High Roller Poker once I have done everything else but based on what I just tested it's impossible

on my save file in Poker all the AI seem to do is Rise Rise Rise and never fold due to the fact they know what cards i hold..

also when i have to play a game of Bluff when the AI never seems to fold its sort of Impossible to win and the other thing that is dumb is when i have a good hand all the AI just fold so i can never earn high chips for any Achievement or Challenge due to that.

also i seem to have a 99% chance of cards never showing up on the table so i can never get pairs or higher and have to always fold and then try and get lucky with a Bluff so this Red dead for PC is NOT LIKE IT WAS ON CONSOLE AT ALL...

i have done 100% runs on both PS3 and 360 back in the day and Poker was NEVER like this at all and now it seems even Vet Poker Players can't win at it so it seems the Devs are running some sort of AI in the background that is designed to screw you over in any of the Gambling in this PC Red Dead..

Lair's Dice also has issues aswell where the AI always seems to know what Dice you have and what dice are on the Table so when the AI call the bluff its a 99% chance you lose due to this..

the biggest issue with Lair's Dice is the fact there's two different rule sets being applied to the game at once so the player has to guess Perfect but the AI never has to seem they win regardless if they guess incorrectly or not..

going back to Poker however unless you are cheating its impossible to get 5 Full Houses and 11 Royal Flushes in 1 game back to back and that's what i'm coming across on my save file so it means some achievements are impossible to get regardless if you play perfect or not..

I'm not a bad poker player or anything like that but when i'm vsing AI that never makes Human Choices and are always given stupid card combos so they always win and they never fold due to this its impossible to beat that.

The Poker In this game is NOT Skill Based Or Luck Based seem the AI always cheats to win and the Program in the background breaks the whole game so Poker and every other Gambling game is not based on Luck or Skill
Last edited by darkinpresser; Nov 1, 2024 @ 3:35pm
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Baked Nov 15, 2024 @ 10:41am 
and winning 2000 chips in one hand , your own chips bet count. makes real easy
micshelpaTv Nov 15, 2024 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Sir Cumference:
Bro had to use Steam Achievement Unlocker to unlock achievements that are easy af to get lmao. OP please take out a second mortgage and go to the casino please. You need to learn how to gamble properly.

magine writing "you need to learn how to gamble" in a scripted game, man just unlocked his degree on sam ripigliati zio
Typically Thomas Nov 15, 2024 @ 10:50pm 
You're talking nonsense. It's a breeze to beat the AI in the minigames. I clean up every time in Liar's Dice and Poker. My stats reflect it: $10.641 won in Liar's Dice and $3267 in Poker. Just cause you're not doing well doesn't mean the game is cheating. They did very little to this game (thankfully). They sure as hell didn't replace the 14-year old AI
ProperCharva Nov 16, 2024 @ 3:27am 
lol
Iggy Wolf Nov 16, 2024 @ 10:08pm 
I mean, if you're going for the "knock everyone out of poker" challenge for the U.S. Army uniform outfit, then the regular poker table outside the saloon in Blackwater is much easier. Although some luck is definitely involved. I was lucky enough that I JUST managed to actually bust out ALL THREE other players, because they ALL went all-in on the hand, and I was lucky enough to have a King High Diamond Flush, while they all only had pairs. Basically was the easiest $400 I ever made. Although I was using the Elegant Suit, but it turns out I would have won anyway, since my default hand was already good with the diamond face.
Last edited by Iggy Wolf; Nov 16, 2024 @ 10:08pm
Typically Thomas Nov 17, 2024 @ 9:46am 
Are you trying to play purely based on luck or are you using the elegant suit to cheat? Always cheat. So much easier that way.
ganjin Dec 21, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Sorry, this is off topic.
I have fulfilled two conditions ("Win 2 pots on a bluff", "Knock 1 person out of the game"), except one: "You always bet less than the pot" (I always bet less, probably I need to finish the game to fulfill this condition), but there are still 2 people at the table. Can I leave the game and get a gold medal? Or do I have to finish the game so that no one is left at the table? Although, if so, then the point of the condition is lost: "Knock 1 person out of the game".
PS. This is some kind of nonsense. After an hour of playing, completing 2 of 3 points of the challenge (except "You always bet less than the pot" ), the game wrote to me that I failed the challenge. After I said pass. What the hell?!
Last edited by ganjin; Dec 21, 2024 @ 11:05am
Joe Pro Dec 21, 2024 @ 10:19am 
Are you talking about the High Roller achievement where you win 2000 chips in a hand of Poker? That achievement can be EASILY gotten by replaying a certain mission with a certain individual (trying not to spoil anything) in Mexico. Just go all in and everyone will most likely fold and you'll get the achievement then and there no problem.

I've also won Poker twice at the Blackwater table for the outfit, I don't even know how to play Poker.

Insinuating that this achievement and challenge is impossible is laughable.
Plake Dec 21, 2024 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by Joe Pro:
Are you talking about the High Roller achievement where you win 2000 chips in a hand of Poker? That achievement can be EASILY gotten by replaying a certain mission with a certain individual (trying not to spoil anything) in Mexico. Just go all in and everyone will most likely fold and you'll get the achievement then and there no problem.

I've also won Poker twice at the Blackwater table for the outfit, I don't even know how to play Poker.

Insinuating that this achievement and challenge is impossible is laughable.
So imagine how bad they have to be at gaming in general, to think it is a cheating game-play mechanic... :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
Slumped Shady Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:14pm 
Hate to be that guy, and maybe there was something that got patched. But I legitimately got 2000 chips on my very first hand, in my very first game of poker at Blackwater a couple days ago. I also got my 100% completion last night legit as well.
ganjin Dec 25, 2024 @ 4:55pm 
Can someone answer me: is it necessary to finish the game to the end, that is, do you have to beat all three players to get a gold medal in the "Blackwater Challenge" (Win 2 pots on a bluff; Knock 1 person out of the game; You always bet less than the pot)?
Typically Thomas Dec 25, 2024 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by ganjin:
Can someone answer me: is it necessary to finish the game to the end, that is, do you have to beat all three players to get a gold medal in the "Blackwater Challenge" (Win 2 pots on a bluff; Knock 1 person out of the game; You always bet less than the pot)?
No. As soon as you reach the requirement, you get the achievement
ganjin Dec 26, 2024 @ 2:59am 
Originally posted by Typically Thomas:
No. As soon as you reach the requirement, you get the achievement
Thank you very much! One clarification please. When does the condition "You always bet less than the pot" count? When I leave the table or when I fulfill the other two conditions, or somehow else?
Feesh Feb 5 @ 3:27pm 
I was able to get the Outfit, it was time consuming and a bit difficult, but not impossible. I'd say I've won about 40% or so of the regular poker games I've played, and while I've only played a few I haven't lost any of the Liars Dice games. I'm just getting started on trying the High roller challenge. And before you throw baseless accusations at me like you did others: I am playing the PC version, NO I am no cheating and I am NOT using any mods.
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