Red Dead Redemption

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BlackWater High Roller Poker
So the Poker Achievement and Outfit Challenge are also impossible to get aswell. This version of Red Dead has a AI program running in the background that basically Cheats you constantly at the high roller Black Water Poker Table

I just tried for a few hours and out of over 400 hands played I only got 56 cards on the table that made a min Pair or Higher

This also means the 100% Save File Achievement is also impossible aswell due to the outfit challenge

Just needed to use Sam Picker to unlock them but I will try High Roller Poker once I have done everything else but based on what I just tested it's impossible

on my save file in Poker all the AI seem to do is Rise Rise Rise and never fold due to the fact they know what cards i hold..

also when i have to play a game of Bluff when the AI never seems to fold its sort of Impossible to win and the other thing that is dumb is when i have a good hand all the AI just fold so i can never earn high chips for any Achievement or Challenge due to that.

also i seem to have a 99% chance of cards never showing up on the table so i can never get pairs or higher and have to always fold and then try and get lucky with a Bluff so this Red dead for PC is NOT LIKE IT WAS ON CONSOLE AT ALL...

i have done 100% runs on both PS3 and 360 back in the day and Poker was NEVER like this at all and now it seems even Vet Poker Players can't win at it so it seems the Devs are running some sort of AI in the background that is designed to screw you over in any of the Gambling in this PC Red Dead..

Lair's Dice also has issues aswell where the AI always seems to know what Dice you have and what dice are on the Table so when the AI call the bluff its a 99% chance you lose due to this..

the biggest issue with Lair's Dice is the fact there's two different rule sets being applied to the game at once so the player has to guess Perfect but the AI never has to seem they win regardless if they guess incorrectly or not..

going back to Poker however unless you are cheating its impossible to get 5 Full Houses and 11 Royal Flushes in 1 game back to back and that's what i'm coming across on my save file so it means some achievements are impossible to get regardless if you play perfect or not..

I'm not a bad poker player or anything like that but when i'm vsing AI that never makes Human Choices and are always given stupid card combos so they always win and they never fold due to this its impossible to beat that.

The Poker In this game is NOT Skill Based Or Luck Based seem the AI always cheats to win and the Program in the background breaks the whole game so Poker and every other Gambling game is not based on Luck or Skill
Last edited by darkinpresser; Nov 1, 2024 @ 3:35pm
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Jazzwingo Nov 12, 2024 @ 6:09pm 
You're refering to the challenge where you gotta bet less than the pot, etc, etc, right?
Easy as hell, finished that challenge in 2 minutes and I'm not even joking. I'm also a terrible poker player.
And the achievement to win 2000 chips in one round? At the High Stakes Poker game that's also easy, considering that once you raise, everyone else keeps raising, easily past 2000.

Now quit telling people to "stop lying and ignoring your post". You put this in the discussions and people are telling you it's 100% possible to do.
There's not some outer space fedora-wearing alien that has hacked into your SINGLEPLAYER game and only affected POKER players.
Iggy Wolf Nov 12, 2024 @ 6:50pm 
If you're trying to get the U.S Army scrap, that one doesn't require you to play the High Roller stakes at the hotel. Rather, you simply have to knock out all the players at the Poker table where your safehouse in Blackwater is. Basically, the one right outside the "saloon".

And if you either load a save enough times, or simply come back at the right time, there will only be one Poker player at the table (use the Elegant Suit to cheat if you want to improve your chances of having a better hand). Especially if you think the AI is cheating, so why shouldn't you? Just be careful not to get caught, or else you lose the money you bet, and have to duel the guy.
Gibble Nov 14, 2024 @ 4:41am 
I really hope you never play a physical card game with friends or at a casino. It'd be really embarrassing when you start talking about how shufflers are unfair
Plake Nov 14, 2024 @ 5:21am 
More than 18k players achieved 100% in the game on steam, yet OP claims its impossible... :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
Ki11s0n3 Nov 14, 2024 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by Plake:
More than 18k players achieved 100% in the game on steam, yet OP claims its impossible... :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
You know that there's a program that you can use to automatically unlock the achievements right? I guarantee you most of those were from that.

The achievement might not be impossible, but the game does cheat and does give you horrible hands in cards 99 percent of the time.
Plake Nov 14, 2024 @ 6:34am 
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
Originally posted by Plake:
More than 18k players achieved 100% in the game on steam, yet OP claims its impossible... :winter2019joyfultearsyul:
You know that there's a program that you can use to automatically unlock the achievements right? I guarantee you most of those were from that.

The achievement might not be impossible, but the game does cheat and does give you horrible hands in cards 99 percent of the time.
Sure, 18k using SAM... :steamfacepalm:
Some people believe the earth is flat, doesn't mean it is.

PS: I also unlocked the achievement, legitimately, so yeah....

Edit: EVERY pc controlled "player" is cheating, but the way you and OP are putting it is nonsense of the supreme kind!
Last edited by Plake; Nov 14, 2024 @ 6:35am
Ki11s0n3 Nov 14, 2024 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Plake:
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
You know that there's a program that you can use to automatically unlock the achievements right? I guarantee you most of those were from that.

The achievement might not be impossible, but the game does cheat and does give you horrible hands in cards 99 percent of the time.
Sure, 18k using SAM... :steamfacepalm:
Some people believe the earth is flat, doesn't mean it is.

PS: I also unlocked the achievement, legitimately, so yeah....

Edit: EVERY pc controlled "player" is cheating, but the way you and OP are putting it is nonsense of the supreme kind!
I didn't say everyone used SAM, but a good portion of those who have 100 percent did use it.

The achievement may not be impossible to get, but the game does make it difficult by cheating the hands that are dealt and if you don't think the game cheats then you are on some major copium.
Plake Nov 14, 2024 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
Originally posted by Plake:
Sure, 18k using SAM... :steamfacepalm:
Some people believe the earth is flat, doesn't mean it is.

PS: I also unlocked the achievement, legitimately, so yeah....

Edit: EVERY pc controlled "player" is cheating, but the way you and OP are putting it is nonsense of the supreme kind!
I didn't say everyone used SAM, but a good portion of those who have 100 percent did use it.

The achievement may not be impossible to get, but the game does make it difficult by cheating the hands that are dealt and if you don't think the game cheats then you are on some major copium.
If you want to be takes serious in discussions, you need to learn how to read what other people write...
Bro cant even beat liars dice lmao
Ki11s0n3 Nov 14, 2024 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by Plake:
Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
I didn't say everyone used SAM, but a good portion of those who have 100 percent did use it.

The achievement may not be impossible to get, but the game does make it difficult by cheating the hands that are dealt and if you don't think the game cheats then you are on some major copium.
If you want to be takes serious in discussions, you need to learn how to read what other people write...
Might want to take your own advice
Plake Nov 14, 2024 @ 9:29am 
Originally posted by Plake:
Edit: EVERY pc controlled "player" is cheating, but the way you and OP are putting it is nonsense of the supreme kind!

Originally posted by Ki11s0n3:
[...] and if you don't think the game cheats then you are on some major copium.

I rest my case and am done dealing with somebody like you. Especially with somebody that thinks Steam players (obviously except himself) are cheaters, just because they understand game mechanics that their own brain is not able to grasp...

Originally posted by Sir Cumference:
Bro cant even beat liars dice lmao
Yeah, people like that are horrible to play with, esp. in multiplayer games on your own team. Always blaming others and thus never improving their own abilities...
Baked Nov 14, 2024 @ 8:49pm 
know when to holdem , know when to foldem , why do you care anyway if you just cheat achievements anyway? it wasn't even hard to get.
Oblivion Peemastered Nov 15, 2024 @ 7:06am 
Bro had to use Steam Achievement Unlocker to unlock achievements that are easy af to get lmao. OP please take out a second mortgage and go to the casino please. You need to learn how to gamble properly.
1337Walrus Nov 15, 2024 @ 9:21am 
Are... they trying to get the U.S Army scrap through the high stakes game? Just use the normal table. Use the elegant suit to cheat.
Rampy470 Nov 15, 2024 @ 9:32am 
I used the high stakes table both for the scrap and the winning a certain amount in one hand achievement. It's very possible. I can't speak to the special in-game challenge because I didn't care to try it, and if it has somehow become broken then yeah it should be fixed, but considering it's not required for anything it's not the biggest deal.
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