Purchase options? Costumes, Editions, etc?

[syncx86]

With Daybreak I NISA announced the purhcase options 8 days before the release (June 27), and it got released at July 5.

I really wonder which costumes we get this time, and if there is any good pre-order bonus.
Is there no news yet about any of this? Will they maybe post it today or tomorrow?

[ojvdh]

Originally posted by syncx86:

With Daybreak I NISA announced the purhcase options 8 days before the release (June 27), and it got released at July 5.

I really wonder which costumes we get this time, and if there is any good pre-order bonus.
Is there no news yet about any of this? Will they maybe post it today or tomorrow?

They probably won't post it until release day. Daybreak 1 is a exception since the jp version was already out on pc.

[jmporkbob]

We shall see, but I don't really care about DLC. I just want the Durante blog post!

[Seagal]

You can see most or all of the costumes on the CLE version store page. I will link the store page to the DLC Pack bundle for that version at the bottom of my post. But, please be advised that this link will have "spoilers" with playable characters since it shows DLC outfits.

As for the pre-order bonus, I expect the same general deal as with Daybreak and or previous games. With launch week having better discounts than normal on Deluxe and Ultimate editions. Launch week only artbook and soundtrack sampler included in all versions.

Hard to say what they will include in the "Deluxe". That is generally what I buy, but I have bought Ultimate Editions before. Ultimate Edition will always include everything, barring any "limited" items once past launch week. You can see what was all included in Daybreak Deluxe and that was US$80 during Launch Week.

NISA could try and crank up the FOMO a bit here and make a few DLC items "limited" or Launch week only. We saw this just recently with 'Ys X', which had an artbook exclusive to the Ultimate Edition, along wiht multiple costumes that are no longer available because they were "Launch Week Only".

It wouldn't shock me if that was the case here with the FOMO being cranked up a bit again. This game doesn't exactly have a good reputation, so they may try and use that anti-consumer tactic to get more launch week sales.

There's like seven (7) BGM sets in this game and that could be a target to make one or more "limited". Hopefully they don't go down that road here with any content, but we'll see on the 14th, I guess.


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[syncx86]

Well, with YS X they posted in 4 days earlier, so maybe they will do it on next Monday.
There can be always special DLCs that Falcom released for the Japanese edition for shop preorders, special magazines, etc, so that is why I am interested.

[Seagal]

Originally posted by syncx86:

Well, with YS X they posted in 4 days earlier, so maybe they will do it on next Monday.
There can be always special DLCs that Falcom released for the Japanese edition for shop preorders, special magazines, etc, so that is why I am interested.

Yes, maybe early next week. I hope they do, but we just have to wait and see because no one knows right now. It's not a big deal if they don't because there's plenty of time from release day and until the launch specials end for people to decide.

For special DLC's, there's a couple, but specifically a Grimcat palette swap costume for a certain character that people will want. It should be included, but maybe not, and it could be a FOMO costume that is locked behind Launch Week purchases or maybe even Ultimate Edition Launch Week only.

We just gotta hang tight until launch day to get full information, or maybe earlier if they post something, but no one knows anything right now.

[Kerykeion]

Originally posted by Seagal:

NISA could try and crank up the FOMO a bit here and make a few DLC items "limited" or Launch week only. We saw this just recently with 'Ys X', which had an artbook exclusive to the Ultimate Edition, along wiht multiple costumes that are no longer available because they were "Launch Week Only".

Seeing this i get nervous because i think the Deluxe edition is more than enough for exclusive content.

Originally posted by syncx86:

Well, with YS X they posted in 4 days earlier, so maybe they will do it on next Monday.
There can be always special DLCs that Falcom released for the Japanese edition for shop preorders, special magazines, etc, so that is why I am interested.

I hope we will be able to buy the Grimcat outfit for Renne.

[Seagal]

Originally posted by Kerykeion:

Seeing this i get nervous because i think the Deluxe edition is more than enough for exclusive content.

I hope we will be able to buy the Grimcat outfit for Renne.

Yeah, same. People were not very happy with how they handled Ys X, so I hope they don't repeat that.

After re-reading that bit of my post you quoted, I just want to make clear that it was just one of two artbooks that was exclusive to the Ultimate Edition while also being Launch Week only. There were launch week only costumes also but they were either tied to the Deluxe or Standard, because I have them and I did not buy the Ultimate for Ys X.

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding from my earlier post.

I really hope we will get the Grimcat outfit also. NISA will for sure hear about it if it's not included, but I'm pretty sure we will since the NISA version is the official Japanese PC version. I believe there was a pre-order costume that is a Mishy Van or something also. I can totally see those being Launch Week only costumes with the Van costume being Launch Week to the Standard and the Grimcat Renne Launch Week to the Deluxe.

I hope they don't, because it just makes people feel bad who can't get the game right away, but it's all speculation from me at this point.

[syncx86]

Wow, this time we already have 4 different editions... but it seems we get basically all of the japanese additional costumes. Ultimate seems to be a great choice. But I will wait and see how much Complete costs...

[Seagal]

Ugh, guess we need to see final pricing, but this is worse than I imagined.

If I'm reading this right, they picked out a few select Z1 outfits just to make them exclusive to the higher editions.

They also doubled down on the FOMO, and made even more launch edition exclusive items.

Gotta assume they will still try and ask for US$59.99 on the base game, so how much will these scale up in price?

They could have went the whole way here and revealed the pricing, but that would bring too much negativity most likely. No doubt they want people to see this and get it stuck in their heads that they want or need it, and then they reveal the prices next week at release and it's insane.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say it will be as follows -

59.99 - Base Game

69.99 - Deluxe Edition

99.99 - Ultimate Edition

119.99 - Complete Edition

And these numbers could very well be on the low side. Typically the Deluxe Edition is like ~80, but I can't see how they can charge 80 for what is included in the Deluxe as it is. The deluxe just isn't very tempting as it is.

I imagine most people did buy Deluxe editions previously, and this is their way to push those people up into the higher Ultimate tier, which will likely cost significantly more. I guess the one bright spot is that they didn't appear to lock any costumes behind Launch Week only, but this is actually worse with what they've done I think.

Edit: Looks like there is a Launch Week locked costume. Appears that the Van Mishy costume is shown in the image that I missed.

I'm a bit surprised by them removing specific Z1 costumes and locking them behind higher packages. I'm not at all shocked they lock things like Grimcat Renne behind Ultimate.

Still, just extremely anti-consumer behavior here and downright shameful.

[Kerykeion]

Originally posted by Seagal:

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding from my earlier post.

Don't worry, all fine. On the contrary you helped when you wrote that information about the Ultimate edition of Ys X. I prepared much money for buying this time.

Originally posted by Seagal:

I really hope we will get the Grimcat outfit also. NISA will for sure hear about it if it's not included, but I'm pretty sure we will since the NISA version is the official Japanese PC version. I believe there was a pre-order costume that is a Mishy Van or something also. I can totally see those being Launch Week only costumes with the Van costume being Launch Week to the Standard and the Grimcat Renne Launch Week to the Deluxe.

I hope they don't, because it just makes people feel bad who can't get the game right away, but it's all speculation from me at this point.

Haha, they really did this. Nisa has already posted the full information on editions and the Grimcat outfit for Renne includes in the Ultimate edition.

[Kerykeion]

Originally posted by Seagal:

Ugh, guess we need to see final pricing, but this is worse than I imagined.

If I'm reading this right, they picked out a few select Z1 outfits just to make them exclusive to the higher editions.

They also doubled down on the FOMO, and made even more launch edition exclusive items.

Gotta assume they will still try and ask for US$59.99 on the base game, so how much will these scale up in price?

They could have went the whole way here and revealed the pricing, but that would bring too much negativity most likely. No doubt they want people to see this and get it stuck in their heads that they want or need it, and then they reveal the prices next week at release and it's insane.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say it will be as follows -

59.99 - Base Game

69.99 - Deluxe Edition

99.99 - Ultimate Edition

119.99 - Complete Edition

And these numbers could very well be on the low side. Typically the Deluxe Edition is like ~80, but I can't see how they can charge 80 for what is included in the Deluxe as it is. The deluxe just isn't very tempting as it is.

I imagine most people did buy Deluxe editions previously, and this is their way to push those people up into the higher Ultimate tier, which will likely cost significantly more. I guess the one bright spot is that they didn't appear to lock any costumes behind Launch Week only, but this is actually worse with what they've done I think.

Edit: Looks like there is a Launch Week locked costume. Appears that the Van Mishy costume is shown in the image that I missed.

I'm a bit surprised by them removing specific Z1 costumes and locking them behind higher packages. I'm not at all shocked they lock things like Grimcat Renne behind Ultimate.

Still, just extremely anti-consumer behavior here and downright shameful.

Now I'm scared to imagine what will happen with Kai no Kiseki release.

[wjo]

$130 to get the Grimcat costum. RIP

[Seagal]

Originally posted by wjo:

$130 to get the Grimcat costum. RIP

Oh, god. Did you see the actual price for the Ultimate Edition? RIP, indeed, if that is the case. I can totally see the Complete Edition costing that, but if the Ultimate is then I will be very disappointed.

I'd have guessed Daybreak 2 Ultimate Edition would be around $100. Priced in between the old Deluxe and Ultimate Editions from Daybreak 1. Daybreak 2 Deluxe is missing costume packs, which is normally included with Deluxe Editions, and the Daybreak 2 Ultimate Edition doesn't have any of the consumables which significantly increase the price.

NISA and their ridiculous pricing might be forcing me onto the off ramp with this series, but maybe that's for the best. I was okay paying ~US$80 to get the game and the costumes, but this is just a new low for NISA.

EDIT: And just for reference, the CLE version has a Deluxe Edition for US$83 and that includes the DLC bundle which is everything except consumables. You can also buy the DLC bundle for $32 separately.

Now, admittedly the CLE version doesn't have the Japanese exclusive costumes like Grimcat Renne and Mishy Van, but how much are those worth? This "Ultimate" Edition from NISA better be priced at ≤$100...

[Yekkusu]

Well remember that Daybreak 1 kinda was available for almost a year before it's release, it was the only game NIS decided to make a Japanese/Chinese port and use that port as the base for the English release.

Actually I played the Kuro 1 Eng Patch after buying the NIS Japanese Kuro no Kiseki version here first, then when the game got the English localization I just removed the patch.

Kuro 2 don't have this.

And, I'm pretty sure Reverie was the same actually they didn't add options before release, which is a shame really. I like to buy stuff early.

[смерть американц]

Hey and was there any pre order/launch bonuses? I was kinda late to the party didn't know the game was coming out for the rest of the world and now it's out and I'm afraid I missed out on something