How casual can I play this without pulling for meta and pulling for certain characters

[crimsonspartan1]

I've played a few gachas so I know what i'm getting into and I'm a light spender but I'm curious to know because some of the character designs in this game are definitely interesting and I'd want to pull on characters regardless of meta, if I can play with and pull for characters that appeal to me visually or if I should be pulling meta?

From what I've seen of this game I like Tess but I've heard she isn't a strong character (plus her banner isn't up yet and probably won't be around for a while), and I like Siris-Ksana and that new outfit of hers despite being aware I'm like a couple weeks late to her banner. Usually on gachas I'll try and pull for a single copy of a character and ignore the weapon / equipment banners since I don't want to blow a lot of money into a game just for power so that's my plan for this game as well, but since I'm already playing some other gachas as well (Mainly star rail atm which is my main game), I don't want to go crazy with the spending.

So yeah, can I just play this the way I feel like and pull for the characters I want or would I be unable to clear certain content without pulling for the meta / strong characters?

[crimsonspartan1]

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I can for sure guarantee a single character at least next update? Don't think 70 pulls will yield me one of the current banners rn though unless I get insanely lucky? Best bet is to save I feel like unless it's worth buying extra digicash to grab one of the current characters, but I got until like the 18th-19th to figure things out?

As I said in the title, I'm not too crazy about meta, but I do want fun / strong characters and also characters with neat designs.

I do like Eatchel's design but if she's sitting in the outfield for the whole thing then she isn't really going to see any action on-field so it kinda feels like I'm pulling for just the free healing? Shadow Ka could also be neat but pretty sure her main thing is her support skill so she'll probably also be off-field for a lot of the game? Turbo's fun but not 100% sure if she's worth the pull or not and I'm curious about that new character but not sure how fun Bubu's gonna be?

You can always wait it out until the last few days of this current update and see how much digicash you've saved up and If you still don't have enough with the 70 pulls you have right now, then just wait for the next update. Each new update always guarantees enough digicash and tickets to pull for a character.

Eatchel and Mauxir are supports so they are off field most of the time, not that you have to strictly play them as such since you don't really care for meta.

I say wait it out until the final days of this update and if you have enough to pull go for fritia. Next update you'll get enough pulls to get a character and I think from there it should be easier to decide. If you like Bubu, then pull for her and if you don't then pull for Eatchel. And like I said in my previous posts, depending on your luck and how long you wait it out by saving the rest of your currency maybe you'll be able to have enough to pull for another character.

Will probably wait until the end of the current version to figure things out. I also double checked and I actually have enough for 80 pulls, so more than I thought. Odds are I will most likely have to soft pity / hard pity a character on the 100% ones since I got Infinite Sight at 90 pulls and I don't want to pull until I know for sure I can get the characters, but I could always test my luck with those 80 pulls at some point, or maybe buy some more digicash if I feel like spending?

[索罗]

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You can always wait it out until the last few days of this current update and see how much digicash you've saved up and If you still don't have enough with the 70 pulls you have right now, then just wait for the next update. Each new update always guarantees enough digicash and tickets to pull for a character.

Eatchel and Mauxir are supports so they are off field most of the time, not that you have to strictly play them as such since you don't really care for meta.

I say wait it out until the final days of this update and if you have enough to pull go for fritia. Next update you'll get enough pulls to get a character and I think from there it should be easier to decide. If you like Bubu, then pull for her and if you don't then pull for Eatchel. And like I said in my previous posts, depending on your luck and how long you wait it out by saving the rest of your currency maybe you'll be able to have enough to pull for another character.

Will probably wait until the end of the current version to figure things out. I also double checked and I actually have enough for 80 pulls, so more than I thought. Odds are I will most likely have to soft pity / hard pity a character on the 100% ones since I got Infinite Sight at 90 pulls and I don't want to pull until I know for sure I can get the characters, but I could always test my luck with those 80 pulls at some point, or maybe buy some more digicash if I feel like spending?

That would probably be the best bet, to wait it out. If you don't mind spending a bit of money then you could definitely do that as well. Test your luck with the 80 pulls and hopefully you get your character and if not then buy the digicash to finish it.

[TheOneTrueUncle]

This game is highly casual.

I saw someone up here complain that you have to spend about 3-4 minutes on a boss... that is a worse case scenario assuming you don't have anyone on you team with a character that is focused on doing any dmg... and that is HIGHLY unlikly due to the fact they have given players the option for a powerful 5 star just for getting to account level 20, and a built 4 star dmg dealer character can complete the multiplayer mission solo if you know their abilites properly. I have beat the multiplayer missions with NIta... who is a tank character that everyone treats like trash. The Main story pretty much carries you with powerful trial characters so you don't have to worry there.

There are hard mode missions as well. Those should be the first real challenge you come across and those mission basically play like the Multiplayer mode... except you get a full 3 girl team under your personal control... where as multiplayer solo litereally makes it one girl vs the entire mission.

The only thing that would make this game hard is if you

1. completely refuse to read any pops up.

2. are so used to being carried that you expect the game to do everything for you

3.are so bad at aiming you shouldn't even being on a shooting game in the first place.

this game allows you to take cover to avoid dmg... which litereally become next to irrelevant even for some of the 4 star characters. Healing is pretty much not needed in most of the game [there are some fights you may struggle but if the game was too easy it wouldn't be as popular as it is]

I haven't been playing this game since the 2nd month of it being out. My first 5 star was Fenny. Which I refused to use. I am a free to play player... and I have nearly every character.

I played the game with Marian, Queen of Pain... a 4 star sniper that requires you to charge your shots for 9 seconds to deal maximum dmg. =/ Just use your brain abit and you will be fine.

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This game is highly casual.

I saw someone up here complain that you have to spend about 3-4 minutes on a boss... that is a worse case scenario assuming you don't have anyone on you team with a character that is focused on doing any dmg... and that is HIGHLY unlikly due to the fact they have given players the option for a powerful 5 star just for getting to account level 20, and a built 4 star dmg dealer character can complete the multiplayer mission solo if you know their abilites properly. I have beat the multiplayer missions with NIta... who is a tank character that everyone treats like trash. The Main story pretty much carries you with powerful trial characters so you don't have to worry there.

There are hard mode missions as well. Those should be the first real challenge you come across and those mission basically play like the Multiplayer mode... except you get a full 3 girl team under your personal control... where as multiplayer solo litereally makes it one girl vs the entire mission.

The only thing that would make this game hard is if you

1. completely refuse to read any pops up.

2. are so used to being carried that you expect the game to do everything for you

3.are so bad at aiming you shouldn't even being on a shooting game in the first place.

this game allows you to take cover to avoid dmg... which litereally become next to irrelevant even for some of the 4 star characters. Healing is pretty much not needed in most of the game [there are some fights you may struggle but if the game was too easy it wouldn't be as popular as it is]

I haven't been playing this game since the 2nd month of it being out. My first 5 star was Fenny. Which I refused to use. I am a free to play player... and I have nearly every character.

I played the game with Marian, Queen of Pain... a 4 star sniper that requires you to charge your shots for 9 seconds to deal maximum dmg. =/ Just use your brain abit and you will be fine.

3-4 minutes is the standard for new players with weak characters like lionheart, and thats on normal bosses like Gavin or Joseph (regular). Try watching a video of a new player using lionheart against, say, iron ourborous or njall and see how they fare.

The standard 5 stars are not powerful, in fact, you are the first person ive seen claim they are. They are woefully outdated and most require m1 + sig to be decent, which new players dont have access to. The best standard 5 star is coronet and shes requires starshine to be decent (not good, just decent).

People keep saying "i played when the game was new and i did just fine with standard characters". The thing is, the game was designed around those standard characters at the time, there wasnt time for power creep to really kick in yet. Fighting a boss like Ni Type Mech (white) with Lionheart is easy...thats because its literally the chapter one boss and you are expected to use the starter lyfe and fenny to beat it.

Fighting Njall with Lionheart is a whole different ball game. Is it possible? Yes, but it is much harder and will take much longer. Thats why new players struggle with the newer bosses while veterans steamroll them with their meta teams and then wonder why new players are struggling.

It is certaintly possible to beat content as a new player, i did it too, its just much harder and requires way more effort with the resources a new player has access to (not max level operatives or weapons, no proper logistic sets, etc). A veteran can solo hard mode with their t2m1 enigma, ksana, or whatever...and they will say its easy. A new player can bring in a team of 3 standard characters at m0t0 and they will probably need a healer to clear all of hard mode. Huge difference in what you can do with different levels of resources and more knowledge of the game (that a new player wont have).

A truly casual game wouldnt have that problem. In a truly casual gacha game, anyone can easily get all the currency rewards just by clearing easy content, which can be done by any new player with starter characters, minimal investment and no effort at all. That is not the case in this game because you need two decent teams to clear difficulty 4 neural sim (or a LOT of time and a lot of effort), and most players want to clear difficulty 5 to maximize their rewards (even if theres only one time digicash rewards for difficulty 5).

[Groen90]

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I played the game with Marian, Queen of Pain

based masochist

[Bocchi]

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The best standard 5 star is coronet and shes requires starshine to be decent (not good, just decent).

Ya serious? Decent? Fenny Coro? Bruh

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The best standard 5 star is coronet and shes requires starshine to be decent (not good, just decent).

Ya serious? Decent? Fenny Coro? Bruh :lol_emily:

Whats your point?

[Bocchi]

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Ya serious? Decent? Fenny Coro? Bruh

Whats your point?

With your logic then shouldn't Fritia faster than the Decent Fenny ?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3384222331

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Whats your point?

With your logic then shouldn't Fritia faster than the Decent Fenny ?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3384222331

Turbo isnt top DPS on anything that isnt iron worm in the first place and coronet has the advantage of (usually) much higher manifestation levels. Turbo is also heavily affected by anything that interrupt its damage rotation. That being said, Turbo has a lot of advantages like being able to move quickly and having a spamamble AOE ult to clear mobs quickly, while Coronet is trash in modes with lots of mobs.

[Bocchi]

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With your logic then shouldn't Fritia faster than the Decent Fenny ?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3384222331

Turbo isnt top DPS on anything that isnt iron worm in the first place and coronet has the advantage of (usually) much higher manifestation levels. Turbo is also heavily affected by anything that interrupt its damage rotation. That being said, Turbo has a lot of advantages like being able to move quickly and having a spamamble AOE ult to clear mobs quickly, while Coronet is trash in modes with lots of mobs.

The whole idea of you calling FennyCoro trash and decent is just plain wrong when she's still viable top 1% for Neural Boss and that time with Fritia mind you is still get you in 1%, if that aint top dps then i dunno what is pal.
Edit: Problem mobbing with Fenny? Pop her ult, its there, and it does it job as if you havent 1 shot them mobs already.

[crimsonspartan1]

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This game is highly casual.

I saw someone up here complain that you have to spend about 3-4 minutes on a boss... that is a worse case scenario assuming you don't have anyone on you team with a character that is focused on doing any dmg... and that is HIGHLY unlikly due to the fact they have given players the option for a powerful 5 star just for getting to account level 20, and a built 4 star dmg dealer character can complete the multiplayer mission solo if you know their abilites properly. I have beat the multiplayer missions with NIta... who is a tank character that everyone treats like trash. The Main story pretty much carries you with powerful trial characters so you don't have to worry there.

There are hard mode missions as well. Those should be the first real challenge you come across and those mission basically play like the Multiplayer mode... except you get a full 3 girl team under your personal control... where as multiplayer solo litereally makes it one girl vs the entire mission.

The only thing that would make this game hard is if you

1. completely refuse to read any pops up.

2. are so used to being carried that you expect the game to do everything for you

3.are so bad at aiming you shouldn't even being on a shooting game in the first place.

this game allows you to take cover to avoid dmg... which litereally become next to irrelevant even for some of the 4 star characters. Healing is pretty much not needed in most of the game [there are some fights you may struggle but if the game was too easy it wouldn't be as popular as it is]

I haven't been playing this game since the 2nd month of it being out. My first 5 star was Fenny. Which I refused to use. I am a free to play player... and I have nearly every character.

I played the game with Marian, Queen of Pain... a 4 star sniper that requires you to charge your shots for 9 seconds to deal maximum dmg. =/ Just use your brain abit and you will be fine.

Started playing late November and so far I think I'm doing pretty decent. Infinite Sight is definitely gonna do me well as DPS for a long time I feel like. I just need to get more characters so I have more variety to play around with.

Also still have that free 5 star standard selector from the level reward, I just haven't used it yet cus I wanna try and pull another 5 star from the standard banner before I pick incase I get dupes. That shouldn't expire I believe so I can use that whenever?

[索罗]

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Started playing late November and so far I think I'm doing pretty decent. Infinite Sight is definitely gonna do me well as DPS for a long time I feel like. I just need to get more characters so I have more variety to play around with.

Also still have that free 5 star standard selector from the level reward, I just haven't used it yet cus I wanna try and pull another 5 star from the standard banner before I pick incase I get dupes. That shouldn't expire I believe so I can use that whenever?

They don't expire. Any items that expire will have a timer on them.

[crimsonspartan1]

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Started playing late November and so far I think I'm doing pretty decent. Infinite Sight is definitely gonna do me well as DPS for a long time I feel like. I just need to get more characters so I have more variety to play around with.

Also still have that free 5 star standard selector from the level reward, I just haven't used it yet cus I wanna try and pull another 5 star from the standard banner before I pick incase I get dupes. That shouldn't expire I believe so I can use that whenever?

They don't expire. Any items that expire will have a timer on them.

It's not an item though, it's from the event page, but I haven't seen a timer there either so I assume that's probably also permanent?

[索罗]

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They don't expire. Any items that expire will have a timer on them.

It's not an item though, it's from the event page, but I haven't seen a timer there either so I assume that's probably also permanent?

That, I don't remember, sorry. Can you post an image?

[crimsonspartan1]

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It's not an item though, it's from the event page, but I haven't seen a timer there either so I assume that's probably also permanent?

That, I don't remember, sorry. Can you post an image?

Dumb me doesn't know how to post images on steam.

The event is called "Elite Recruitment" incase that helps?