Not good.... removal of ENG VAs

[Neptlude]

They just announced in their FB that they will no longer be voicing in english for future updates...

"Oh but I play the game in japanese~"

Point is removal of a feature isnt a good sign for anygame... . _ .

Edit: Just an updated since people still using this thread... o. O

The sacrificing of EN VA for the revival of the game was worthed! lol

[nameless'ghost]

Ya know they always ask which voice u use
So most people use jp , cn and less eng after that bye
I thought you like voting like demarcocy

[學店店長]

This thread is better than some whiner thread nearby.

[學店店長]

Vote? it's a CN game, c'mon.
Not TW.

[Appci]

Yes and no. No one likes extra options removed (even though i do not use EN voice overs). But I'm also pretty sure that math was done and it's better for the future of the game.

[Path o Logic]

love how people say the eng voices were annoying lol i mean i can say the same thing about the ♥♥♥ voices esp tess so don't be a hypocrite....the en voices are good they add their own personality to them and if you can't see the difference maybe sit, listen, read and use your head

[M14EBR Overwatch]

Well that sucks. Some of the VA's are reused for several characters, and some of them area really good, especially the ones that can swap between a British accent and Murican English. It also looks like they must have planned on a Playstation release at some point but it fell through. One of the SMG's, the 'Sunshine Watermark;, clearly has the Playstation face buttons stacked on the bottom of weapon's magazine (green triangle, red circle, blue cross and pink square).

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2264812881955915116/C1ABF4795E60AE16CAE3B341FB2F723F80C49A1C/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

The game's production values in the visuals department are not cutting edge, and even on PC it has some issues with optimization that shouldn't exist for a game that isn't graphically pushing the envelope.

The other big issue is the format. The daily 'energy cap' element is not something done on console F2P titles, and this would be the first. That mobile gaming gimmick won't sit right with players looking for a more serious title, so it would quickly get buried by ToF, Genshin and others that don't have play time restrictions -- especially given the majority of gameplay happens on board the local machine and has loose server monitoring in the background to keep tabs of unlocks and what not. I'm sure the multiplayer is done over peer to peer as well, to cut costs, but that's just a guess.

I'd be fine if they cut and paste English VA's to fill out new characters just to have it stay as an option. Dropping that measure of localization usually happens when prospects of adoption in the West have been scuttled.

[Jawn]

引用自 Waryth：

引用自 Complete Domination：

Not a good sign for English VAs who, as past records have shown time and time again, are increasingly vocal and picky and demanding for games to follow all the political correctness guidelines. No, thank you. I deem this as a good move. If voicing characters in skimpy clothing bothers you so much then you go find other games to voice instead of demanding the game to change itself into your comfort zone.

You're right BUT this issue happened as well in Japanese VAs in the past. They never had any choice and just stuck through it until it became culturally acceptable in Japan.

http://anime.mmgn.com/Articles/Seiyuu-Spotlight-The-truth-about-seiyuu
(Website is now defunct this was back around 2012 but lots of people used this as reference.)

Outside Japan, they're more vocal especially in the United States because FREEDOM but the thing is there's contract in place to prevent this kind of issue from happening.

IF Japanese Voice Industry was able to pull it off so can other parts of the whole world. English VA really sucked before Genshin's popularity until Mihoyo stepped it up a notch. RWBY was fine but majority doesn't count it as anime despite having anime aesthetics.

Do note that Kantai Collection's political correctness was one of the reason they couldn't release it outside of Japan. Azure Lane's copycat release of the same concept through out the whole world along with Mihoyo copying Breath of the Wild all because JAPAN failed to capitalize on what they revolutionized to begin with. It's their ways of telling Japan they do NOT own anime anymore.

There's even other Eng VA R18 parody of most games you can find out there. All in all they all just have to talk it through. You can't use mismanagement issues as a reason to justify for it.

"Mihoyo stepped it up" lmao, you lost any once of credibility with that statement. Go back to genshit haha

[Nikibanzai💀]

引用自 Waryth：

Here's what I sent in the feedback form:

My serious take about the matter:

"After extensive evaluation of voice-over preferences and consideration of the optimal gaming experience"

You know what, I'll be 100% honest here, this is full load of crap. This is just your scapegoat of saying "We would like to save money by no longer supporting EN voices.

YOUR FIRST EVER GAME TRAILER WAS WITH ENGLISH VOICES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7159YMntqEQ

Majority of the content were in English. Even your CHARACTER THEME SONGs are in ENGLISH despite this game being originated in CHINA. Chinese people were fine with it. I'm even fine with it too.

https://www.cbjq.com/#Moments (Official Snowbreak CN website redirects to music playlist)

• OST1_Fimbulvetr
  
• OST5_Game in the Dark

YOU STARTED WITH ENGLISH AND STOP SUPPORTING ENGLISH. I started this game with the English voice over and I might as well stop with the removal of English VA support. FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED AT LEAST.

Problems without English VAs

The problem without English VA support is that we cannot understand what the character is saying during game start, skill casting because there's NO subtitles. Adding subtitles will just block the screen further.

Genshin Impact HAS ENGLISH VOICE OVERS SUPPORTED. Snowbreak was meant to compete against Genshin Impact. I paid for your product over Genshin Impact just for you to kill English VA support.

Snowbreak EARNS A LOT OF MONEY and is in the TOP rankings of gacha games out there while your scapegoat of OPTIMAL game experience. NONE OF THAT WERE OPTIMAL to me. It's clear you're cutting the cost and just value profit at this point now.

Don't FIX something that's NOT broken. You're removing something that's already been part of. Yes its NOT removed but rather no longer supported but its existence is obviously removed.

100% Relateable Story Telling

How the heck can I relate and feel the lore of the story IF I have to go back being a weeb and read subtitles again and again and be less focused about the game overall. My character will speak Japanese (future ones) and I have to read subtitles instead of having face contact or any other things needs to be focused on like gameplay combat in-game. I've already have a pain playing your main story without English voice overs and have to read through text.

Ease of Access

IF there's something that needs to be READING it's the tide of battle NOT the subtitles. It's applicable in anime but for an action game where your attention is required elsewhere in combat.

Nobody even reads the tutorial mid-game because it kills the fun unless the game does proper story breaks for scenario.

Story telling during combat is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pain. This is what made Ace Combat successful, this what made Genshin Impact successful. Snowbreak was even successful with all the English voice acting and now this decision of removing it? The Fogbound Dream content was done well just for the next chapter to be NOT supported is absurd.

Anyone who mentioned Genshin or any Mihoyo's games, please go back to your 'amazing games' and spent your money there, we don't need you guys here rofl, lame af people

[Nate]

引用自 Nikibanzai：

引用自 Waryth：

Here's what I sent in the feedback form:

My serious take about the matter:

"After extensive evaluation of voice-over preferences and consideration of the optimal gaming experience"

You know what, I'll be 100% honest here, this is full load of crap. This is just your scapegoat of saying "We would like to save money by no longer supporting EN voices.

YOUR FIRST EVER GAME TRAILER WAS WITH ENGLISH VOICES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7159YMntqEQ

Majority of the content were in English. Even your CHARACTER THEME SONGs are in ENGLISH despite this game being originated in CHINA. Chinese people were fine with it. I'm even fine with it too.

https://www.cbjq.com/#Moments (Official Snowbreak CN website redirects to music playlist)

• OST1_Fimbulvetr
  
• OST5_Game in the Dark

YOU STARTED WITH ENGLISH AND STOP SUPPORTING ENGLISH. I started this game with the English voice over and I might as well stop with the removal of English VA support. FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED AT LEAST.

Problems without English VAs

The problem without English VA support is that we cannot understand what the character is saying during game start, skill casting because there's NO subtitles. Adding subtitles will just block the screen further.

Genshin Impact HAS ENGLISH VOICE OVERS SUPPORTED. Snowbreak was meant to compete against Genshin Impact. I paid for your product over Genshin Impact just for you to kill English VA support.

Snowbreak EARNS A LOT OF MONEY and is in the TOP rankings of gacha games out there while your scapegoat of OPTIMAL game experience. NONE OF THAT WERE OPTIMAL to me. It's clear you're cutting the cost and just value profit at this point now.

Don't FIX something that's NOT broken. You're removing something that's already been part of. Yes its NOT removed but rather no longer supported but its existence is obviously removed.

100% Relateable Story Telling

How the heck can I relate and feel the lore of the story IF I have to go back being a weeb and read subtitles again and again and be less focused about the game overall. My character will speak Japanese (future ones) and I have to read subtitles instead of having face contact or any other things needs to be focused on like gameplay combat in-game. I've already have a pain playing your main story without English voice overs and have to read through text.

Ease of Access

IF there's something that needs to be READING it's the tide of battle NOT the subtitles. It's applicable in anime but for an action game where your attention is required elsewhere in combat.

Nobody even reads the tutorial mid-game because it kills the fun unless the game does proper story breaks for scenario.

Story telling during combat is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pain. This is what made Ace Combat successful, this what made Genshin Impact successful. Snowbreak was even successful with all the English voice acting and now this decision of removing it? The Fogbound Dream content was done well just for the next chapter to be NOT supported is absurd.

Anyone who mentioned Genshin or any Mihoyo's games, please go back to your 'amazing games' and spent your money there, we don't need you guys here rofl, lame af people :Excrement_Item:

gatekeeping isnt a good argument either, he's got a point... removing communications to the player is basically a death sentence in a game like this due to the pace needed to play.

[Weeb Trash]

引用自 Nate：

引用自 Nikibanzai：

Anyone who mentioned Genshin or any Mihoyo's games, please go back to your 'amazing games' and spent your money there, we don't need you guys here rofl, lame af people :Excrement_Item:

gatekeeping isnt a good argument either, he's got a point... removing communications to the player is basically a death sentence in a game like this due to the pace needed to play.

wdym remove communications? do you need someone to tell you what you should do and how you should complete the objectives?
Also, gatekeeping is good.
if you're a fan of something you should stop unwanted influences from corrupting the thing you're a fan of before they fester out of control.

[Nate]

引用自 Weeb Trash：

引用自 Nate：

gatekeeping isnt a good argument either, he's got a point... removing communications to the player is basically a death sentence in a game like this due to the pace needed to play.

wdym remove communications? do you need someone to tell you what you should do and how you should complete the objectives?
Also, gatekeeping is good.
if you're a fan of something you should stop unwanted influences from corrupting the thing you're a fan of before they fester out of control.

im saying the game is fast paced, and having ZERO idea of the story with a voiceover and having to look at the hud is asking to get killed in this game due to the fast paced nature of the game.

[Nate]

引用自 Nate：

引用自 Weeb Trash：

wdym remove communications? do you need someone to tell you what you should do and how you should complete the objectives?
Also, gatekeeping is good.
if you're a fan of something you should stop unwanted influences from corrupting the thing you're a fan of before they fester out of control.

im saying the game is fast paced, and having ZERO idea of the story with a voiceover and having to look at the hud is asking to get killed in this game due to the fast paced nature of the game.

gatekeeping is bad, its the reason many games die, and its because of people like yourself assuming i play either genshin or any other hoyo game. guess what, i dont play any hoyo games. and having *influences* does help games idk... become better? like quality of life features? or devs that ACTUALLY LISTEN TO US?

[SharkOfTheDead]

引用自 Waryth：

引用自 しらんふれあ：

if i have to pick 1 way to meet profit goal for a game between
- more microtransactions
or
- cutting 1 language voice support

yeah i would pick the latter as a consumer.

Profit goal my butt, they've released more seductive swimsuit outfits to reach that goal but cut off 1 language support that was originally part of the release.

The top 39 ranking, Snowbreak Containment Zone’s revenue reaching $700,000 and downloads reaching 100,000 in September!

They've profit a lot last November with those swimsuit outfits just to screw things up this December especially during its Steam release. NOVEMBER UPDATE introduced MILEAGE SYSTEM known as Rebate (How much you whaled meter).

Those players you see in your games with Yao Bikini spent $310 USD. Those with WHALE BORDERs spent $1,550 USD in TOTAL.

We still even get more lewd outfits with the magician bunny girl + skiing outfit with revealing skins for Lyfe/Fenny/Yao. They released NOT TWO but THREE OUTFITS this time.

IF they're truly in a desperate situation they wouldn't put effort selling more high quality decent suggestively seductive outfits WITH ANIMATIONS.

(An actual skiing outfit should have more clothing against the cold but that logic doesn't apply here.)

https://twitter.com/snowbreaken/status/1734830894056398947

引用自 Snowbreak：

Hello Adjutants,

After extensive evaluation of voice-over preferences and consideration of the optimal gaming experience, we will no longer provide English voice-over for new content starting with Version 1.4. Other language voice-over will not be affected.

If you select English voice-over in Settings in Version 1.4 or later, some game content will contain Japanese voice-over by default. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and we welcome your feedback as we continue to strive to provide the best experience of Snowbreak: Containment Zone.

Optimal gaming experience? This is NO optimal gaming experience for removing something that originally exist even when minority uses it.

IF they're truly going for optiminal gaming experience which meant reducing file size they could just GET RID OF the ENGLISH VOICE OVER entirely from the game and enforce JP or CN but they didn't.

They put JP voicelines in their English instead. Your operative starts spouting ONEESAN!! to your HIGH RANKING superior.

引用自 Villain：

Maybe the devs had a count of how many players used english voices and it was low enough to warrant it's end?

引用自 Quagalicious：

Might as well start with Japanese next while we're at it. Kinda shocked a Chinese company didn't knock out that voice first before others.

引用自 Villain：

Japanese VA is super popular with CN gacha gamers. There've been controversies in the past where games launched without them. Most players in general prefer em. Different reasons though. EN VA would be cool for accessibility or people who aren't weebs, but that's probably in the minority of people playing this.

They use ENGLISH SONGS for their TRAILER.

Fimbulvetr Launcher/Trailer PV music/Lyfe Theme Song
Lasting Echo Lyfe's 2nd Theme Song
Reignition Yao's Theme Song
Enlightened Marian's Theme Song
Game in the Dark Acacia's Theme Song

ALL OF IT ARE IN ENGLISH PRODUCED BY RENOWNED VANGUARD STUDIOS. People speculated it has something to do with cost cutting measure or English VA protest (no source can be found) when the details I provided says otherwise.

Japanese my butt with your imperial japanese superiority weeaboo mentality. Japan doesn't own anime anymore as they failed to capitalize on what they created. Chinese and South Korean developers are the ones taking over. You don't say oneesan in a military oriented game especially when they're NOT blood related.

IF all you said were true then they would have started with Japanese VA PV, Japanese theme songs.

This is all greed in play, It's NOT just about English voice overs controversy the way they explained the whole thing is NOT justified and even deemed unacceptable.

THE FUTURE

What's next? They're gonna remove MOBILE SUPPORT for the game because majority of us plays on PC for COST CUTTING MEASURES?

Are we gonna use the PC MASTER RACE logic here as mobile gaming is inferior? when the game was released on mobile but discontinued? The MORE the BETTER, the LESS the WORSE it gets.

ARE YOU ALL GONNA BELIEVE ALL THE FILTHY LIES? WHEN THEY'RE EARNING A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES.

We're all playing the same game but fighting one another over trivial matters THAT WAS ORIGINALLY part of the game. We should be against the devs decision NOT against one another splitting and hating the player base as a whole.

None of you seem to understand why. The reason why there won't be new English VA's is because those English VA's want the game censored by having outfits like the one you mentioned removed from the game. So in all honesty, keeping VA's like that is going to kill your game, because without those outfits your not making enough money to do anything with the game, its all going to selfish VA's who wanna be dictators and alienate the majority of players. Complain all you want but the best they can do is replace the English VA's with A.I, unless they want to be practically held at gun point by another countries government to produce content that does nothing but spread hate and division, alienating many fans, and many would be fans.

[SharkOfTheDead]

引用自 Nate：

引用自 Nate：

im saying the game is fast paced, and having ZERO idea of the story with a voiceover and having to look at the hud is asking to get killed in this game due to the fast paced nature of the game.

gatekeeping is bad, its the reason many games die, and its because of people like yourself assuming i play either genshin or any other hoyo game. guess what, i dont play any hoyo games. and having *influences* does help games idk... become better? like quality of life features? or devs that ACTUALLY LISTEN TO US?

Quality of life? If you call discrimination against people based off their gender, race, sexuality, or religious beliefs an improvement, then yeah, Gate keeping is a bad thing. Just look at the new Doctor Who reboot, look at Star Wars, Warhammer right now, look at how Hell Divers 2 almost died when its community managers started trying to corrupt the game, how anime's are quickly becoming more and more like your average predictable Western movie or show where you always know every straight white male is going to be completely incompetent and living proof that there is a god, because there would be no other logical way that he could of lived to adult hood if Evolution was a thing. More often then not Gate Keeping is a good thing that keeps actual fans around instead of people who want to entirely change franchises for their own selfish reasons and to push a divisive hateful agenda.

[info]

引用自 Neptlude：

They just announced in their FB that they will no longer be voicing in english for future updates...

"Oh but I play the game in japanese~"

Point is removal of a feature isnt a good sign for anygame... . _ .

the English VA sound like stuck up harpies, the Japanese VA sound cute af

since the English VA REFUSED to work on the game, because it has pretty girls, it is NOT that the devs removed content, you clown

and it is a good sign. because the devs refused to censor the game so these harpies go back to work.
the crap we have to deal with in the west... all the changed translations, the brutally awful voice overs in anime, the *ugly* character that oozes out of some of these "women"... it is unbearable.
that's why everyone listens to Japanese VAs.

and they literally said that everyone is using the Japanese Va anyway, so why should they jump through hoops for a feature nobody wants.