Gacha again?

[Asakura Shinichi]

Am i right to assume its another game made to be a casino with zero content and turning game into a 10 minute daily chore of spending "stamina" in end game for boring stuff?

[Clockwork Tot]

Originally posted by Asakura Shinichi:

Am i right to assume its another game made to be a casino not a game with zero content and turning game into a 10 minute daily chore of spending "stamina" in end game for boring stuff?

well close .. except you are being very generous with the 10 minute estimate.

Yes Gacha but that actually is not the "bad" to worry abt - there are WAY more things to be all kinds of sad / angry / frustrated etc abt

[aceofspades]

no need to worry my good sir even tho this is a gacha it is one of the most free-to-play friendly gacha you can find on the market even the low rarity operatives can be used in all the content with no fuss

[Asakura Shinichi]

Originally posted by aceofspades:

no need to worry my good sir even tho this is a gacha it is one of the most free-to-play friendly gacha you can find on the market even the low rarity operatives can be used in all the content with no fuss

I dont care for drop rates mate, i care for end game content. Gacha games are not only about the lotteries, but limiting your playtime behind some dumb stamina bars and forcing you to log in daily or you lose massively.
Example the second you finish Genshins content you reach the end game content which is you log in daily for 10 minutes to spend resin and do dailies. Id rather have a insane drop rate and be allowed to farm and play how much i want over being limited and forced to play daily.

[aceofspades]

i understand i wish it was a full game myself only time will tell if they give us permanent game modes and other stuff that allow us to just play the game

[Asakura Shinichi]

Originally posted by aceofspades:

i understand i wish it was a full game myself only time will tell if they give us permanent game modes and other stuff that allow us to just play the game

So i guess the assupmtion was right that this game also heavily limits your play time and punishes you for not playing daily.

[aceofspades]

what do you mean by being punished? besides having a low leave account nothing is kept from you in this game as for limits yes you are limited it is a gacha game I suggest you just play the game and figure out whether you would like to stick with it I can tell you this as far as other gacha games go this one is the least demanding of your time and effort, of course, I get it if you want to play the game but can not or have nothing to play in the game it can be upsetting I have run into this with a gacha game I love but eventually that gacha game introduced a game mode that lets you play as much as you want and experience the gameplay to it's fullest I do not doubt that given time this game as well will get a game mode just like that. so your assumption is at least partially wrong

[Revarin]

no need to play you can wait until v2 or whatever rn game is still in its "early" state 1.4

[Shirtless Commie]

The repeatable content doesn't cost stamina. Stamina gates how much resources you can get but never how long you can play the game in the modes you play more than once.

[Bio[redacted]]

Originally posted by Asakura Shinichi:

Am i right to assume its another game made to be a casino not a game with zero content and turning game into a 10 minute daily chore of spending "stamina" in end game for boring stuff?

bro you might as well complain about a farming sim saying how much you hate having to wait for crops to grow or having to feed the cows. why are you even here complaining if you don't like such a baseline concept??? You don't see anybody playing f2p shooters like apex or fortnite whining about dailies, so why is it so absurd for it to be in this game?

[Asakura Shinichi]

Originally posted by Biodeamon:

Originally posted by Asakura Shinichi:

Am i right to assume its another game made to be a casino not a game with zero content and turning game into a 10 minute daily chore of spending "stamina" in end game for boring stuff?

bro you might as well complain about a farming sim saying how much you hate having to wait for crops to grow or having to feed the cows. why are you even here complaining if you don't like such a baseline concept??? You don't see anybody playing f2p shooters like apex or fortnite whining about dailies, so why is it so absurd for it to be in this game?

You seem to either lack common sense or act like all those modern kids who attack others just cause they don't like a game. You logic is far fetched as hell, there is a huge difference between a game locking you out of end game content by limiting it to a few minutes per day, over growing crops in a simulation have cause you play the game a they grow and have many other activities to do other than that. And people who play Apex also are not locked to playing a limited time per day and getting punished if you don't.
F2P does not mean the game has to take your time as granted and disrespect you. Not everyone can play a game daily even if it's only for a few minutes cause a game is meant as a fun time not a chore. And they even less want come back to game every 2-3 days just to see they got punished cause they must 2 days worth of time to farm materials that are locked behind time gating stamina bar.
Not to mention other than casuals for whom barely any play time might appealing, or streamers and eSports players for whom a specific game is their livelihood, normal gamers will have other games they want to play.
Finally you say no one complains on dailies in Apex, yeah cause those dailies are not chores and the only game you have even you reach end have content, cause in games like Apex you play matches vs people.

[Dee]

Originally posted by Asakura Shinichi:

Am i right to assume its another game made to be a casino not a game with zero content and turning game into a 10 minute daily chore of spending "stamina" in end game for boring stuff?

Bro is waffling. Either you want to troll and just make a fuss about the game or you are genuinely just so lost. There is a stamina system. Period. There are things that dont cost stamina that you can keep doing but exp is tied to Stamina used so you wont exactly directly grow from those activities just getting alternative currencies to upgrade. Story and Material Grinding are stamina based along with some events (but those are story too). There is always something to do even if you dont have stamina but its really up to what you need or want at that moment. Hard Stages do not take stamina. All of this hinges on what you think end game is. Personally ive rarely been stamina choked and at the time I REALLY wanted to play I could even post 0 stamina. Play it or dont.

[Asakura Shinichi]

Originally posted by Dee:

Originally posted by Asakura Shinichi:

Am i right to assume its another game made to be a casino not a game with zero content and turning game into a 10 minute daily chore of spending "stamina" in end game for boring stuff?

Bro is waffling. Either you want to troll and just make a fuss about the game or you are genuinely just so lost. There is a stamina system. Period. There are things that dont cost stamina that you can keep doing but exp is tied to Stamina used so you wont exactly directly grow from those activities just getting alternative currencies to upgrade. Story and Material Grinding are stamina based along with some events (but those are story too). There is always something to do even if you dont have stamina but its really up to what you need or want at that moment. Hard Stages do not take stamina. All of this hinges on what you think end game is. Personally ive rarely been stamina choked and at the time I REALLY wanted to play I could even post 0 stamina. Play it or dont.

Trolling? So having something you like and dislike is trolling, asking questions to get to know better about the game is also trolling, mate if you are so offended that someone dislikes something you do or has his personal tastes that dont align with yours, than either ignore or dont interact over being a douchebag trying to find reasons to insult and attack others. Why is it that so many other people could interact in this topic normally, but you and the other guy get offended and take it to a personal level.

[Dee]

Originally posted by Asakura Shinichi:

Originally posted by Dee:

Bro is waffling. Either you want to troll and just make a fuss about the game or you are genuinely just so lost. There is a stamina system. Period. There are things that dont cost stamina that you can keep doing but exp is tied to Stamina used so you wont exactly directly grow from those activities just getting alternative currencies to upgrade. Story and Material Grinding are stamina based along with some events (but those are story too). There is always something to do even if you dont have stamina but its really up to what you need or want at that moment. Hard Stages do not take stamina. All of this hinges on what you think end game is. Personally ive rarely been stamina choked and at the time I REALLY wanted to play I could even post 0 stamina. Play it or dont.

Trolling? So having something you like and dislike is trolling, asking questions to get to know better about the game is also trolling, mate if you are so offended that someone dislikes something you do or has his personal tastes that dont align with yours, than either ignore or dont interact over being a douchebag trying to find reasons to insult and attack others. Why is it that so many other people could interact in this topic normally, but you and the other guy get offended and take it to a personal level.

I gave you the information you wanted, as did other people. Take it how you will. You have enough to make a choice. As I said play it or don't.

[Appci]

In this game 80% of time you do the shooty stuff so gacha randomness does not really matter that much. Not to mention that well... it's a free game, how else are they supposed to make money for game to survive?

[Asakura Shinichi]

Originally posted by Appci:

In this game 80% of time you do the shooty stuff so gacha randomness does not really matter that much. Not to mention that well... it's a free game, how else are they supposed to make money for game to survive?

Duh, Battle Pass, cosmetics. Those two are already much better choices not relying on making you addicted to gambling, not to mention being afraid people play too fast so they need to lock your play time and punish you if you miss a day, at least thats literally every gacha ive seen so far.
The timegating of gameplay and punishing you for missing a day is one of the reasons i hesitate to even try this game, the second is that i dont want to spend another 2 hours trying to get rid of a toxic malware kernel level anti cheat like Tower of Fantasy has. And that anti cheat is sadly in many chinese PC gacha games. Not only its installed without your consent, but does not get uninstalled with the game meaning it will still run in the background even when you dont have that game.