Damage question

[Legion66]

Lately I'm a bit confused about the 1D6 system. Is 2D6 better than 1D6+D3 or worse?
Also the casting modifier is capped but is the damage from agility and strength also capped?
Any clarification would be appreciated.

[Pear]

Yes, 2D6 is strictly better than D6+D3, just think of it as D6+D6.
No, damage from agi and str isn't capped. If you have 19 str (+12) you will hit for an extra 12d3 damage with Crushing Blow.

[Legion66]

Originally posted by Pear:

Yes, 2D6 is strictly better than D6+D3, just think of it as D6+D6.
No, damage from agi and str isn't capped. If you have 19 str (+12) you will hit for an extra 12d3 damage with Crushing Blow.

Thanks, I thought this was the case. But that means also that there is probably a mistake with altren kiss. Because a normal repeater does 2D6 but altren's kiss does D6+D3.

[Legion66]

Ok it seems I read it wrong. A normal reapeater is 2D3 and altren's kiss is D6+D3. I assume the latter is then better?

[Epix]

Yes altren's kiss is better. Satyr's Sling also has D6+D3 too. The more why u should try to farm encounters before fighting king:)

[Phyre]

I assume you've never played Dungeons and Dragons(D&D) or other role playing games=). D6 and D3 just refers to dice. So a D6 is a six sided dice roll, so it rolls between 1 and 6. D3 is a three sided dice roll so it rolls between 1 and 3. A D6 has a higher average so it's better. 2D3 is rolling two three sided dice, which is similar to a single D6 roll, but it's more consistent and can't roll a 1 like a single D6.

D6+D3 can roll between 2 and 9, so it has a higher possible damage and averages higher than a 2D3. 2D6 is highest damage because it can be between a 2 and a 12 and has highest average and top damage.

I think Logar's Blade is now 2D6, and has always had crushing and slashing on it, so it's pretty awesome for a warrior.

[Legion66]

Originally posted by Phyre:

I assume you've never played Dungeons and Dragons(D&D) or other role playing games=). D6 and D3 just refers to dice. So a D6 is a six sided dice roll, so it rolls between 1 and 6. D3 is a three sided dice roll so it rolls between 1 and 3. A D6 has a higher average so it's better. 2D3 is rolling two three sided dice, which is similar to a single D6 roll, but it's more consistent and can't roll a 1 like a single D6.

D6+D3 can roll between 2 and 9, so it has a higher possible damage and averages higher than a 2D3. 2D6 is highest damage because it can be between a 2 and a 12 and has highest average and top damage.

I think Logar's Blade is now 2D6, and has always had crushing and slashing on it, so it's pretty awesome for a warrior.

I was assuming it was something like that, but I also read the damage from the repeater wrong as I had in mind that it was 2D6 and not 2D3.
But thank you for the easy understandable explanation.

[Reianor]

Originally posted by Phyre:

2D3 is rolling two three sided dice, which is similar to a single D6 roll, but it's more consistent and can't roll a 1 like a single D6.

2D3 rolls an average of 4. D6 has an average of 3.5. Its not just similar but more consistent it's 14% better on average.

That said, I'd like to especially underline the “consistency” aspect of multiple dice compared to single dice. For example 2d6 which the game rolls so often doesn't just result in an average of 7, it results in 7 every 6th roll on average and rolls 2 or 12 once per 36 rolls each (again, on average). So don't look at 2d6 as just “a random number between 2 and 12” it's a very noticeably shifted distribution. In fact a huge part of the balance of this game stems from that shift in distribution. But that's long and I'm not in the mood for walls...

[Wyrtt]

Thats a part many forget.
There was a prison boarfgame where you haf to randomly get one of the eleven cells. You rolled 2d6. Creator somehow missed that its not 2-12 number generator.
While games like catan actually use 2 12 and 7 as main part of strategy as those numbers are special.