Rogue's Tale

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Belterius Dec 25, 2017 @ 5:25pm
Shapeshifting and weapons
Shapeshifting doesn't seem to be influenced by weapon(s) base or bonus (elemental or physical) damage, but do the other bonuses from weapons apply while Shapeshifted ? For example, an AGI bonus, or a crit chance bonus ? What about having a shield Equiped ?

Is there any difference between bear & wolf shapeshifting appart from Crushing Blow replacing Silent Move and Strong Will replacing Sixth Sense ? Cause according to the wiki, both damage are Melee/Medium, so based on AGI modifier (and not STR as could be expected for the bear)
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Pear Dec 25, 2017 @ 7:06pm 
I think that the damage enchantments and chance do x e.g. paralyze/charm don't work but all other enchantments work just fine.

Having a shield allows you to block in shapesihft unless that was changed recently.

Medium attack takes the higher mod of AGI/STR instead of just AGI so bear doesn't lose out on damage.

I suppose wolf plays more like a stealth AGI build (which is why I hate it without seven keys and even then it's weak without beastial wrath) and bear is more of a raw STR steamroll.

iirc Bear is size +2 as to 0 of a human which means the roll needed to crit on a human as a bear is lowered by 2 (from 10 to 8 for example). I *think* wolf is +1 size? Can't find that information on the official site anymore somehow.
Belterius Dec 25, 2017 @ 8:07pm 
So why would I want/need to play my bear as STR rather than AGI ?
And asking for the weapon enchant because I know from experience that death proof & leap of faith don't apply if you are in shapeshifted form.

I'm having a hard time making shapeshift work on the king, 3 tries so far with 2 good run and 1 amazing (full immunes/blessed free action/4 crit increase/+6 STA +5 AGI) but I'm just getting destroyed by the archers, compared to a mage that will just range AoE them down, plane shift to safety if required, and heal to full in a turn, melee seems so weak :(
Pear Dec 31, 2017 @ 6:50pm 
STR over AGI because bear has Crushing Blow that wolf doesn't have.

Oh imbuements not working in shapeshift is actually a huge bummer :x

Yeah facing a group of enemies and getting pummeled down is usually the downfall of shapeshift builds. Can't really help that besides maybe amassing a bear/drake army, shapeshifters are supposed to excel at quickly taking down enemies one at a time :/
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Date Posted: Dec 25, 2017 @ 5:25pm
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