AI Art?

[Kimakaze]

So I'm kind of suspicious when I see this type of art so I did some research whether it's AI or not. I saw a post on reddit where someone screenshots of blatant AI flaws. Can anyone confirm that this game DOES NOT use AI generated images?

[slay]

They did confirm on the discord iirc that there was no AI art involved.

[HEALTH]

What blatant ai flaws, let us see.

[go fast, eat ass]

Originally posted by HEALTH:

What blatant ai flaws, let us see.

Some character art on the store page looks kinda AI-ish. I had the same thought, its nice to hear that they didnt use it.

[Kimakaze]

Originally posted by HEALTH:

What blatant ai flaws, let us see.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vtm/comments/1f0y8my/is_reckoning_of_new_york_using_ai_art/
One of the replies gave image links.

[P-girl]

... Yeah, that evidence doesn't cut it for me. I think people forget that humans can make wonky art too. (Heck, the necklace doesn't even look that wonky). I get that AI has people paranoid, I don't like AI art either, but I feel some people get overly paranoid. Like, this type of art existed before AI (Heck, one might argue AI has that 'Look' is because it takes/steals from this type of art since it's kinda everywhere.)

Like... I'm not going to conclusively say this isn't AI, but for me, it doesn't look all that different from the other '...Of New York' art. Maybe a bit lighter/cleaner. And I choose to take the Devs' word for it that they didn't use AI. (Like, most of the time people who use AI art just admit it since they're either flippant or PROUD. I've yet to see someone lie about using AI art.)

Believe what you believe, but I don't think this is AI.

[HEALTH]

Originally posted by Kimakaze:

Originally posted by HEALTH:

What blatant ai flaws, let us see.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vtm/comments/1f0y8my/is_reckoning_of_new_york_using_ai_art/
One of the replies gave image links.

Tbh i just look like their usual artwork but animated and thats probably ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up

[AcidSweat]

Originally posted by P-girl:

(Heck, the necklace doesn't even look that wonky).

You know that you can photoshop the parts that look too blatantly like AI yourself?

Originally posted by P-girl:

Like, this type of art existed before AI (Heck, one might argue AI has that 'Look' is because it takes/steals from this type of art since it's kinda everywhere.)

I think it's better to leave this style in the past. It'll always remind AI art nowadays.

[HolyCrowBatman]

Steam store has a policy where if you use AI in your game, you have to disclose it, and it would be highlighted on the games store page.

Additionally, the community manager for WoD asked the team, and it was confirmed that all sprites and backgrounds are human made.

[HEALTH]

The devolopers already came out saying no ai art was involved

[P-girl]

Originally posted by AcidSweat:

Originally posted by P-girl:

(Heck, the necklace doesn't even look that wonky).

You know that you can photoshop the parts that look too blatantly like AI yourself?

Originally posted by P-girl:

Like, this type of art existed before AI (Heck, one might argue AI has that 'Look' is because it takes/steals from this type of art since it's kinda everywhere.)

I think it's better to leave this style in the past. It'll always remind AI art nowadays.

Unfortunately, I don't think that makes it AI. People can also just, y'know, draw a thing, make a mistake, and fix THAT with Photoshop, but I feel like we're getting stuck in a loop with that one.

For the latter part, to quote the Dude; That's just, like, your opinion, man. While I prefer the older, more painterly style of this series, I still think this one works. I love the character designs.

And hot take; there's the kicker. 'It's AI' is slowly becoming the new 'Calling my opinion a fact' for many people. Like, just say you don't like the Art. Nobody's gonna judge you for it. People ARE gonna judge you for making, from where I'm standing, baseless accusations that might tarnish the Dev Team's reputation for now reason.

Or on another note: Try to go on Good Faith and trust the Devs when they're saying 'No'. They've got no reason to lie. If anything they got more reason to tell the truth, regarding the Steam Policy of having to disclose using AI art.

....

Sorry for the ramble, and I hope it's not too confrontational, but just as people need to stop hocking AI, the other side needs to stop saying 'AI!' like it's 'WITCH!' when they don't like how something looks. That is NOT the solution.

Anyway, Imma just step back from this conversation. (Or attempt to, I can be a stubborn witch.) and just enjoy the game. If you don't like the artwork, just refund. No need to go shouting (IMHO) baseless accusations about it.

[Meeds]

I don't think there is any real evidence of AI and I can definitely see how it can be made without it. Reversely if AI had been used, it couldn't have been done without being heavily guided and micro managed plus having a base on which to go on (img2img?), like the concept art itself (which was already there in the older titles, the clothes etc. - It's too unique and consistent in my opinion. Then again I don't know how fast image gen develops these days.

I don't think this was all painted by hand of course, there must have been some level of photobashing involved, perhaps use of 3d assets, perhaps some amount of tracing/touching it up with brush strokes to make it look more painterly - digital art has tons of different ways to work a picture - which is all perfectly fine in my book.

So finally, there were doubtless skilled, hard working artists involved, and accusing them of AI without concrete proof is really disrespectful and disheartening.

[honka]

exactly what I thought - screenshots look like AI slop, especially after the previous two games with beautiful, soulful, hand-drawn characters.

[Dimlhugion]

We should go back to chiseling scratches into mountains with pointy sticks. That's the only way to never have anything be AI'd.

[Orkhepaj]

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

Originally posted by HEALTH:

What blatant ai flaws, let us see.

Some character art on the store page looks kinda AI-ish. I had the same thought, its nice to hear that they didnt use it.

they could have just lied
probably used ai then fixed the problems by hand

[AcidSweat]

Originally posted by Orkhepaj:

Originally posted by go fast, eat ass:

Some character art on the store page looks kinda AI-ish. I had the same thought, its nice to hear that they didnt use it.

they could have just lied
probably used ai then fixed the problems by hand

Exactly! Fanboys are so thick to understand that.