Fistful of Frags
Jacobcrayola Feb 23, 2019 @ 4:50pm
The Smith Carbine
Hi,

I have been playing Fistful of Frags for several years now and have enjoyed it thoroughly. It's been the best cowboy FPS on Steam. And the best part is that it's free! Anyhow, coming back from a long break, I was rather devastated to find out that the Smith was taken out from the stock menu.

I personally didn't mind other changes. Games always have to change and be tweaked, I certainly understand that. However, I feel like an important aspect of the game has been severely diminished with the removal of the Smith like this.

This badass rifle allowed players to take a different approach to combat. Revolvers generally kill players in 2 hits, and so did the Smith. Although, you have to reload every single time. Anyone with a revolver can easily kill a player with the Smith in close quarters. More than that, with a headshot that lands around ~80 damage, it is easy to obtain at least 2 kills per mag. At most, the Smith with a headshot killed in most cases.

With the carbine, thus, you were rewarded for skill. If your aim was really great and you practiced it for an extended period, you could dominate. If you didn't have exceptional aim, anyone with a revolver (or two!) could end you effortlessly in close quarters. Moreover, blue chests aren't that easy to come by. Spawning is random and trying to make the trip there often gets you killed.

In addition, the same could be said for the Mare's Leg. Those with exceptional aim absolutely dominate as long as they are in close quarters. All they have to do is aim at your head and shoot; it's easier to headshot in close quarters. However, it fires slow and the other stock revolver dominates against bad aim since it fires faster. The Smith functions similarly, except for longer, medium range combat.

If, Rebel_Y, you could add the Smith back into the stock menu, I think that would make a lot of us happier in the end and continue enjoying the game. I wouldn't even mind a nerf, as long as headshots killed in medium distance.

Kind regards,
Jacobcrayola
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TCP/UDP Feb 23, 2019 @ 5:31pm 
I agree. The changes to the Smith severely diminishes some gameplay complexity.
omar Feb 23, 2019 @ 8:53pm 
its annoying to randomly lose 70 hp to someone on the far end of the map who you can't possibly fight and isn't even going to frag you because you are about to take cover
anyway there are still modded servers that let you spawn with carbine instead of yellowboy
Jacobcrayola Feb 23, 2019 @ 9:01pm 
There is an easy solution to that. Can't Rebel tweak the damage falloff so that it doesn't do as much damage from very far distances? As long as it's capable of killing with a headshot in medium range is all that really matters, since that is what rewards skilled players.

Also, can you give me the IPs or names of these servers that you speak of? Thanks!
Last edited by Jacobcrayola; Feb 23, 2019 @ 9:03pm
omar Feb 24, 2019 @ 10:26am 
snacksplay team shootout server in china has carbine in spawn
Jacobcrayola Feb 24, 2019 @ 11:44am 
I can't find it. Can you give me the IP address?
Originally posted by omar:
its annoying to randomly lose 70 hp to someone on the far end of the map who you can't possibly fight and isn't even going to frag you because you are about to take cover
anyway there are still modded servers that let you spawn with carbine instead of yellowboy

I'm curious are there modded servers with the old walking accuracy and does away with sharpshooter?

If so, I think a server in the Americas with these changes would be great!
Jacobcrayola Feb 24, 2019 @ 6:26pm 
Yeah, I really wish someone could host a US server with an old rendition of the game for us veterans. It wasn't just the stock gun menu, it was also for example strafing and walking accuracy (as mentioned).

Anyhow, I found the snacksplay server. It's hosted only during certain time periods it seems (when Chinese people are awake?). Does anyone know of any US server that has the Smith in the stock menu?
Last edited by Jacobcrayola; Feb 24, 2019 @ 6:41pm
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Date Posted: Feb 23, 2019 @ 4:50pm
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