Why am I not allowed to use directx 7?

[RainOfPain125]

I have no knowledge of anything to do with what directx is. I just know that I can run games with incredibly higher FPS with directx7 than I do with directx9

[RainOfPain125]

Originally posted by Fallin':

just use 8 its the next best thing

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Originally posted by BOT Clint Eastwood:

Get a better PC. If you cant run this game on low settings, 600x400, dx level 80... you shouldnt be playing.

Yeha, well my overall point here, is that Mount and Blade Warband, Mount and Blade With Fire And Sword, and other games that allow me to change my directx setting get signifigantly higher FPS with directx7 over directx9

Playing the two games named above would be impossible on directx9, but with directx7 I get a nice 40-50 FPS. The problem isn't all my PC's, the problem I'm having is this game doesn't support the option to change it, which is weird. I don't see a reason why not to allow directx7, it would only bring the attention of more players that have older hardware

[Brick]

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Originally posted by Fallin':

just use 8 its the next best thing

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Yeha, well my overall point here, is that Mount and Blade Warband, Mount and Blade With Fire And Sword, and other games that allow me to change my directx setting get signifigantly higher FPS with directx7 over directx9

Playing the two games named above would be impossible on directx9, but with directx7 I get a nice 40-50 FPS. The problem isn't all my PC's, the problem I'm having is this game doesn't support the option to change it, which is weird. I don't see a reason why not to allow directx7, it would only bring the attention of more players that have older hardware

What? Directx7 isn't avaiable like many have stated before, so why do you keep on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it? Use DX8 or don't play the game, Valve aren't going to add back DX7 support because you want to play FoF with better fps.

[RainOfPain125]

Originally posted by Daedric Brick:

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

What? Directx7 isn't avaiable like many have stated before, so why do you keep on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it? Use DX8 or don't play the game, Valve aren't going to add back DX7 support because you want to play FoF with better fps.

I was just stumping on his statement that "directx8 is the next best thing" when it really isn't from my point of view. Don't have to be rude and say stuff like "stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

[RainOfPain125]

Originally posted by Daedric Brick:

Valve aren't going to add back DX7 support because you want to play FoF with better fps.

"aren't going to add suport because you want to play FoF"

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Originally posted by BOT Clint Eastwood:

Ill make an anology: Why should Facebook support IE6 (an old, outdated browser) because it runs much faster than the latest Google Chrome on your Pentium 4 and 1GB of RAM?

Before I read anything further, I'll say because if facebook was a successful and good platform to use, it would have an extremely wide range of hardware and software that it would support, so that the most amount of people can use it's service. The more people that use facebook, the more revenue they make off ads, the more money they have.

Originally posted by BOT Clint Eastwood:

Either upgrade your hardware and get with the times, optimize your game for what you have, or quit complaining.

Rebel Y could be like my facebook example listed above. If he opened his game to use directx7 then (assuming more people would have more fps) more people could use FoF, and more people could enjoy FoF, which the point of a Free game, right? So random users can download it and enjoy it's content, yes?

[Avenger1_]

you dont understand. rebel_y wont add dx7. fistful of frags is easy enough to run on direct x 8. try making sure every setting is on low and then just fiddle with resolution until you get a stable fps

[RainOfPain125]

Originally posted by Sheev¹:

you dont understand. rebel_y wont add dx7. fistful of frags is easy enough to run on direct x 8. try making sure every setting is on low and then just fiddle with resolution until you get a stable fps

I still get 10 fps, lol

[RainOfPain125]

Originally posted by BOT Clint Eastwood:

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

I still get 10 fps, lol

Originally posted by BOT Clint Eastwood:

Get a better PC. If you cant run this game on low settings, 600x400, dx level 80... you shouldnt be playing.

I'm not given the option of 600x400, the lowest I'm offered is 1280x600

also, it's very odd of Rebel_Y to put that post in the "bug reports" forum, considering low FPS isn't really a bug. So no, I never tried that config, but I did right now. And I gotta say, there was an extremely minor improvement. It definitely didn't help me run graphic intensive maps like Loothill

[Avenger1_]

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Originally posted by BOT Clint Eastwood:

I'm not given the option of 600x400, the lowest I'm offered is 1280x600

also, it's very odd of Rebel_Y to put that post in the "bug reports" forum, considering low FPS isn't really a bug. So no, I never tried that config, but I did right now. And I gotta say, there was an extremely minor improvement. It definitely didn't help me run graphic intensive maps like Loothill

you are acting very entitled for a free videogame. it is nobodies fault but your own if your computer cannot run it. you sound like you are using extremely old hardware. if you can tell me your pc specs I may be able to help you and see if the problem is your hardware or not

[omar]

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Originally posted by Fallin':

just use 8 its the next best thing

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Yeha, well my overall point here, is that Mount and Blade Warband, Mount and Blade With Fire And Sword, and other games that allow me to change my directx setting get signifigantly higher FPS with directx7 over directx9

Playing the two games named above would be impossible on directx9, but with directx7 I get a nice 40-50 FPS. The problem isn't all my PC's, the problem I'm having is this game doesn't support the option to change it, which is weird. I don't see a reason why not to allow directx7, it would only bring the attention of more players that have older hardware

i said 8, not 9, 9 is what's on by default and 8 will increase performance significantly in comparison. the version of source engine that fof runs on does not support directx 7 so you will never be able to play fof using it. if you can't make do with 8, try using a low graphics config, you can find one in this thread:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/265630/discussions/2/34094415669901247/

beyond directx 8, low graphics config, and low graphics settings (INCLUDING resolution), i'm pretty sure there is nothing else you can do on the software end to get better performance in fof. however, even computers up to ten years old should be able to scrape by with at least 30fps in fof using these methods. i have a seven year old laptop that runs at 60 like this.

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

I'm not given the option of 600x400, the lowest I'm offered is 1280x600

yes you are, change the aspect ratio setting from 16:9 or 16:10 to 4:3 and it will appear in the resolution list (640 480 though, not 600 400). if that's still not low enough resolution you can force it lower using the console, for example for 320x200

mat_setvideomode 320 200 1

or in launch options (right click fof in steam library > properties > set launch options) you can add custom res like this:

-w 320 -h 200

[RainOfPain125]

Originally posted by Sheev¹:

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

I'm not given the option of 600x400, the lowest I'm offered is 1280x600

also, it's very odd of Rebel_Y to put that post in the "bug reports" forum, considering low FPS isn't really a bug. So no, I never tried that config, but I did right now. And I gotta say, there was an extremely minor improvement. It definitely didn't help me run graphic intensive maps like Loothill

you are acting very entitled for a free videogame. it is nobodies fault but your own if your computer cannot run it. you sound like you are using extremely old hardware. if you can tell me your pc specs I may be able to help you and see if the problem is your hardware or not

I made a guide about FPS improvement, no need to tell me about it

2.2GHz, 1 core, 1 thread
2x1GB DDR3
No GPU, Integrated Graphics

The rest really doesn't determine my FPS

[Avenger1_]

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

Originally posted by Sheev¹:

you are acting very entitled for a free videogame. it is nobodies fault but your own if your computer cannot run it. you sound like you are using extremely old hardware. if you can tell me your pc specs I may be able to help you and see if the problem is your hardware or not

I made a guide about FPS improvement, no need to tell me about it

2.2GHz, 1 core, 1 thread
2x1GB DDR3
No GPU, Integrated Graphics

The rest really doesn't determine my FPS

thats your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem. you are running it on a single core pentium 4 that was never even good when it first game out. and running it on intergrated graphics. the game cannot run on a literal potato. if what other posters have suggested does not work you must upgrade if you wish to play FoF or really any 3d game in the first place.

[RainOfPain125]

Originally posted by BOT Clint Eastwood:

change aspect ratio

Like I already stated, changing my aspect ratio to 4:3 does nothing when I apply it, and when I go back intot he options my aspect ratio was forced back to 16:9

[RainOfPain125]

At this point I'm not asking or expecting Rebel_Y to add directx7 (I mean he can't, it's not his engine and the engine won't and never will support it apparently) I'm just saying a lot more people with integrated graphics could enjoy source games like Fistful, No More Rom In Hell, GMod, CS, etc if it supported Ditectx7, which in turn would attract more people to buy or download those products.

But thanks for pointing out about that thread by Rebel_Y about increasing FPS. I still don't understand why he would put it in the bug reports forum (it really doesn't belong there)

[Avenger1_]

Originally posted by RainOfPain125:

At this point I'm not asking or expecting Rebel_Y to add directx7 (I mean he can't, it's not his engine and the engine won't and never will support it apparently) I'm just saying a lot more people with integrated graphics could enjoy source games like Fistful, No More Rom In Hell, GMod, CS, etc if it supported Ditectx7, which in turn would attract more people to buy or download those products.

But thanks for pointing out about that thread by Rebel_Y about increasing FPS. I still don't understand why he would put it in the bug reports forum (it really doesn't belong there)

the issue is maintaining the directx7. its not as simple as flipping a switch. by the time directx7 was dropped from source it became a liability in terms of cost. so they stopped supporting it as few users used it anyway.

[omar]

directx 7 users are few and far between dude, and do you mind reading my post because i answered questions that you are still confused about while you are responding to others. to change to 4:3 choose it from the dropdown menu and then BEFORE pressing apply open the resolutions list again. or use custom resolutions and that way you won't even have to put up with the 4:3 visibility disadvantage