Enemies are 5x stronger after Commander!

[Fizzy King K]

For some reason every enemy that i encounter after the 2nd boss (around the graveyard and in the catacombs) is ridiculously hard. Im a lvl 37 Cleric, i barely do any dmg and i take only a few hits until im dead (compared to the enemies before the Commander which were a piece of cake). Here are my attributes http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=677508997
Ive seen a lvl 28 Cleric on youtube that had no trouble in those areas so why am i getting my ♥♥♥ kicked so hard?

[Astori Heichalot]

FTH build requires to utilize gauntlet and spells (thats where your damage came from).
minimum melee attacks (usually running heavy attack once and then back up again) can be both one or two handed.

I see that you invested some on STR.
you can try using tower shield on your back,
or
try mastering shield bash (that if you use kite shield)

[Fizzy King K]

Im using Brawler btw, i currently have the special Commander shield and maxed Ram skill which goes through multiple enemies AND shield and deals a ton of dmg but it takes too much mana and i cant rely on that skill 24/7.
I dont understand how a lvl 28 cleric with much less attribute points can deal more damage than me AND receive waaaay less dmg from the enemies that destroy me....
I might just go with the typical and boring warrior class x( and see if its any different

[Rapptture]

Originally posted by Fizzy Majin Buu:

Im using Brawler btw, i currently have the special Commander shield and maxed Ram skill which goes through multiple enemies AND shield and deals a ton of dmg but it takes too much mana and i cant rely on that skill 24/7.
I dont understand how a lvl 28 cleric with much less attribute points can deal more damage than me AND receive waaaay less dmg from the enemies that destroy me....
I might just go with the typical and boring warrior class x( and see if its any different

Try rage instead of ram, takes less magic, does more damage and is just more fun to use imo, GL.

[Fizzy King K]

This is hilarious, ive done some tweaking to my armor [using all simetry(?) parts except for main which is Live Elements] and now i have enough STR points to use the Fate Axe which does good damage and has good atk speed. Then i started using a Rhogar kite shield for bashing and i run and shield slam almost every enemy then follow up with a jump strong attack, gotta say its quite an effective method so far...need to see how i face against the graveyard and courtyard bosses tho xD.

[Astori Heichalot]

Originally posted by Fizzy Majin Buu:

This is hilarious, ive done some tweaking to my armor [using all simetry(?) parts except for main which is Live Elements] and now i have enough STR points to use the Fate Axe which does good damage and has good atk speed. Then i started using a Rhogar kite shield for bashing and i run and shield slam almost every enemy then follow up with a jump strong attack, gotta say its quite an effective method so far...need to see how i face against the graveyard and courtyard bosses tho xD.

first of all,

armors...
when you select your equipment, you will see "DEFENSE" value...
never look at that value... I really mean it... NEVER...

you will need to toogle for more info regarding that equipment, and then look for "physical defense",
this is the attribute that actually make you take less damage.
you may think that certain armors have very high defense, but still you got killed in few hits. thats because the armors have low physical defense.

fate axe is one of the most effective weapon, but not so good to be dual wielded (lacking jumping strong attack), however if you are comfortable, go for it.

using bigger shields give you better (more staggering) running shield bash

edit:
graveyard and courtyard bosses apparently doesnt require much mobility fights,
so fighting faster bosses may require you to change playstyle a little (or alot, depending how you wanna approach the game)

[Fizzy King K]

Thank you for taking the time to help a noob . I will look into armor stats then. As for the Fate Axe or any weapon in general im not comfortable with dual-wielding (yet). I usually dont play games like this but LoTF caught my attention for some reason...maybe because of how badass it looks...oh and because its easier than Dank Souls.

[Bob]

Originally posted by Fizzy Majin Buu:

Thank you for taking the time to help a noob :heart: . I will look into armor stats then. As for the Fate Axe or any weapon in general im not comfortable with dual-wielding (yet). I usually dont play games like this but LoTF caught my attention for some reason...maybe because of how badass it looks...oh and because its easier than Dank Souls.

LoTF has a pretty steep learning curve, it never gets easy , easier maybe, because you know what to do , unlike darksouls which requires ESP lol and of course youtube videos and help from other players. Glad you like the game though, but just one piece of advice , soon as you can locate the heirloom hammer and upgrade it , (youtube video) once you have mastered the two handed overhead smash combined with rage , the game really opens up and you can begin to stack up the xp multiplyer, locate as many empty bottles as you can which will allow you to fight for longer.

The heirloom hammer is imo the best weapon you can get early in game , and will still be affective until the end of the game DMG = 120. it is possible to get it before the commander fight. side quest = yetka's dagger. GL.

[Artoria Pendragon]

Possible DRM kicing in.

[MisterDuch]

maybe you ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up your build?

[Nicholas Steel]

It's true, you should be looking at the full details of your equipment (weapons, armour & shields) when deciding which one to use. Along the bottom of the screen will be a Legend telling you which button to cycle the information display to display all the details.

After beating the Graveyard Boss you can access the Catacombs as well as another area.

[stp602]

I had to start the game over a couple of times to get my build right, and it was always after the fight with the Commander as well---and my build for my first successful run-through was an Executioner build (cleric / deception, using staffs / axes / hammers / great-axes / great-hammers, with medium armor sets). I focused on two-handing the big weapons, or one-handing the smaller ones and paired with the gauntlet.

What I found is that getting the strike right was all about timing. Finding just the right moment to connect made all the difference. Finding the creative balance for attributes was really tricky, but most of my points went into faith, strength and endurance. I went through like a glass cannon.

Once you figure out how the rhogar move, learning their timing becomes pretty easy for most fights. As a heads-up from my own experience, though, and sorry for the slight spoiler, you'll want to make sure you've got some good agility and even more endurance when you come back to the citadel the second time around. A heavy cleric build can make it through till that point pretty easily, but the enemies to follow will demand a lot more footwork.

[stp602]

Also, the advice on getting the Heirloom as early as possible, and upgrading it---SOLID ADVICE INDEED. The Heriloom, My Axe and the Law were the only weapons I ever needed for most of the game.

Paired with the gauntlet and a high faith score, the Heirloom becomes a great friend to have.

[stp602]

Oh, and one other thing-----most of the benefits from the trinkets and the secret benefits conferred by the armor sets are not made explicitly clear in the game, not even in the stats much of the time. It's helpful to look up the information online, to make the best choices for your gear and build.

[Nicholas Steel]

There's also been numerous reports of the Greed Trinket causing bugs (Dunno if this was ever patched),