No iframes?

[Domitor]

Wow this game is asinine in terms of combat mechanics. When you roll, there should be iframes and enemy weapons should not damage you at the end of its swing. Do you die if a car stops short of running you over and the bumper lightly touches your knees?

And also when enemies knock you down, they can continue wailing on you while you climb up in the slowest animation ever.

This game is not only slow and clunky but straight up unfair not because the devs wanted it to be challenging but because they are incompetent.

[Яedly Яed.暗赤色@Tsundere-Tiddy]

What makes you think it SHOULD have iframes? I don't see how that is vital to the combat when you can get everything down perfectly by proper timing. I've also never suffered a death that fits your description of getting hit upon recovering.

Not treating it like a full-fledged Dark Souls title despite the same control scheme would be a good first step in improving your game...and adjusting to its slow nature.

[udav]

If enemy weapon can touch you in the end of the swing - you roll in wrong direction or too late. Game have quite narrow window for some enemies. It's not a NIOH where you can cancel in any frame and literally went through enemy swing.

[Spicy-T]

OP This game is garbage honestly just dont waste your time on it. It is a heartless imitation of the souls genre.

[Ryan Gosling (literally me)]

Originally posted by Spicy-T:

OP This game is garbage honestly just dont waste your time on it. It is a heartless imitation of the souls genre.

Heh another kid who got rekt.

[Spoon]

What i think alot of people dont realise is that this isnt a souls game. It takes alot of inspiration from souls, but the lack of i-frames simply means it takes more skill and prediction to avoid damage. Blocking and tanking may be simpler, but it makes sense for it to take more skill to completely dodge damage. Sometimes its better to keep a boss at range and only dodge when very necessary. That being said i agree that alot of the mechanics and pacing are ass with a side of lettuce, but the lack of i-frames seemed like an improvement if anything.

[EF_Neo1st]

The iframes in this game is like the iframes of fatrolling.
You cant rely on it for dodging, pick the right moment to attack, at the right distance, dont overdo and you will do fine.

Try to dodge into attacks thinking you will be invincible for some frames, and you get rekt.

Believe it or not, the LotF way of fighting make the souls games easier (as at souls games you have reliable iframes under certain weight% and even more under 30% weight%).

(I mean, "reliable" as at the souls games).

I was stuck at abyss watchers then I played LotF (and havent finished LotF yet) . . . then I got back to DS3, I steamrolled over abyss watchers, did pontiff first try, gone up to the final boss . . and had trouble only with Friede and Midir.

Really, try relying less on iframes that everything else wil be easier (and using iframes will also be easier and better too).

[K.S.]

Stop expecting it to play just like Dark Souls does, it obviously isn't Dark Souls, just inspired by elements of it. People go into Souls-like games expecting them to play the EXACTLY same way, and when they inevitably pay the price for it, they want to hate the game and those that made it for their own lack of the obvious. Instead of throwing a fit and wanting to trash the devs, try offering them some ACTUAL constructive feedback so they can make a better game, not accuse them of being incompetent when you are incapable of developing a game yourself. If the only way some people can play Souls-like games is to rely on i-frames and not timing and forethought, thats on you. As for taking damage when your down and getting up, that sure as hell didn't happen to me, and I just got off the game an hour ago. Not saying this game is without faults, but damn, learn that a different game is obviously going to play differently.

And @Spicy-T, you seem to have a real issue with this game as you bother to jump to different threads of this game just to trash it and tell people not to play it, like your childish spite carries weight on others choices. Whether you are some extremely narrow-minded Souls fan that HAS to hate anything similar to it, or you just got your ass handed to you for the reasons I and others already stated, GROW THE F&$@ UP, period. It's a damn video game, there once was a time when people could say they didn't like something and move on. These days, people have to develop something close to a vendetta or obsession when they don't like something, and waste an unbelievable amount of time being a keyboard troll, trying to trash talk something into the ground. It's pathetic.

[tracksone]

Not every game has to be an exact souls clone. If i want dark souls i go play dark souls

[Mrbud420 💩]

Doesn't matter what kinda game this is. it sucks, its sub-par, almost as bad as Darksiders 3. Way better games out there like all 3 of the souls games NIOH, The surge, Bloodbourne you can play on PC with PS now. Why even play this its like store brand brownie sitting next to a Little Debbie brownie.

[Mrbud420 💩]

Originally posted by Mr. Bad guy:

Originally posted by Spicy-T:

OP This game is garbage honestly just dont waste your time on it. It is a heartless imitation of the souls genre.

Heh another kid who got rekt.

He is not lying tho. Why imitate and copy an entire genre (Souls-like) but make it worse in every way from combat to layout to AI to graphics all is sub-par. If you are gonna make a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game at least don't advertise it like something people want. Made the game like Souls games just to get money off people looking for a Souls fix.

They know what they are going.
It 's like sitting in the desert selling piss to dehydrated wanderers.
They want something to drink they really do but they didn't ask for piss.

100% of people bought this game because it's Souls like (and were disappointed). The first damn Tag on the store page is Souls-Like.

[tracksone]

Originally posted by Mrbud420 💩:

Originally posted by Mr. Bad guy:

Heh another kid who got rekt.

He is not lying tho. Why imitate and copy an entire genre (Souls-like) but make it worse in every way from combat to layout to AI to graphics all is sub-par. If you are gonna make a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game at least don't advertise it like something people want. Made the game like Souls games just to get money off people looking for a Souls fix.

They know what they are going.
It 's like sitting in the desert selling piss to dehydrated wanderers.
They want something to drink they really do but they didn't ask for piss.

100% of people bought this game because it's Souls like (and were disappointed). The first damn Tag on the store page is Souls-Like.

in your opinion

[K.S.]

Originally posted by Mrbud420 💩:

Originally posted by Mr. Bad guy:

Heh another kid who got rekt.

He is not lying tho. Why imitate and copy an entire genre (Souls-like) but make it worse in every way from combat to layout to AI to graphics all is sub-par. If you are gonna make a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game at least don't advertise it like something people want. Made the game like Souls games just to get money off people looking for a Souls fix.

They know what they are going.
It 's like sitting in the desert selling piss to dehydrated wanderers.
They want something to drink they really do but they didn't ask for piss.

100% of people bought this game because it's Souls like (and were disappointed). The first damn Tag on the store page is Souls-Like.

I don't even get how people can honestly have this kind of anger towards a video game, there's no way you can be an adult. You really think the devs spent the time and effort making this game, JUST to be a copy or imitation of Dark Souls? You realize "Souls-Like" is a genre, like you yourself said. It can't copy a genre dumbass, only be a part of it. You'd have to criticize every "Souls-Like" if you're going to use that logic. But you mention and praise others at the same time?? And because LoTF happened to be (I believe) the first AAA title to follow suite, it got ♥♥♥♥ on, in some ways justified, but over emotional individuals (especially those that feel a need to personally go after the devs for whatever reason) that took this ♥♥♥♥ too much to heart makes no sense. You have issues.

Btw, a straight up lie that the graphics were worse than Souls, when it comes to armor and weapon designs and detail, it blew Souls out of the water, I have to give it that. Dark Souls 3 is where I can say Souls equaled out for the most part. You do know The Surge was made by the same people that made this game? If people focused more on giving actual feedback to the devs instead of raging like f.u.c.k.i.n.g. preteens, they would improve more on where LoTF fell short (like what they are doing with the sequel), did they not improve in aspects with The Surge over LoTF? Trashing every aspect of the game because you are mad it "imitated" Dark Souls, without being exactly like Dark Souls (which is apparently what you expected or wanted) is a level of contradiction and pretty much straight pettiness that only a child can mentally justify. You couldn't even come up with a single valid or actual criticism in all that emotional ranting, and other people are supposed to take you seriously? Well, other than those with your same mentality.

And let's not pretend every Souls game and Souls-Like aside from LoTF were flawless in every way.

[tracksone]

All the souls games have flaws, even demon souls which is my favorite one, has issues. People get caught up in the mystique people have for the games.