Marvel's Spider-Man 2

Marvel's Spider-Man 2

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Bruce 26 de jan. às 2:48
Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 1, which is better?
If I had to choose between them to play, which one is better?
Última edição por Bruce; 26 de jan. às 2:50
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AmeerMij 27 de jan. às 5:58 
Escrito originalmente por Joda:
Second game better in every aspect but story. Espacially treversal 100x better than the first game
indeed
Goose 27 de jan. às 6:32 
Escrito originalmente por TNX.:
In terms of gameplay, Spider-Man 2
In terms of story, Spider-Man 1
I tend to agree with this.

But while this game does have some glaring issues in the story department, I still think the story wasn't bad, just not as strong as Spidey 1 from 2018.

However, the 2nd game wins in pretty much everything else for me.
The gameplay, specially the traversal and the combat were both improved considerably from the original.
Última edição por Goose; 27 de jan. às 6:34
Ingel Riday 27 de jan. às 11:49 
Honestly, I think the first game is far superior to the second one.

But... I'm biased. I have played Marvel's Spider-Man four times now and adore. I beat Marvel's Spider-Man 2 once and felt deep disappointment.

It wasn't just the awful SBI-laden story, cringe-inducing dialogue, and endless pandering rubbish. It was a lot of other things.

- The lighting felt overly saturated and had less mood to it. I enjoyed the autumnal hue of Marvel's Spider-Man 1 a lot more.

- The traversal changes in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 just did not work for me. The original zone from Marvel's Spider-Man 1 was very fine-tuned for the web-slinging mechanic and overall character speed. It flowed wonderfully and you could tell that someone put WAY too much thought into building heights, optimal swinging paths, and so on. In Marvel's Spider-Man 2, you move WAY faster... but the buildings are in the same places at the same heights. So a lot of web-slinging paths and routes just don't work very well anymore, and it feels off... not that it matters, because you can web-glide and use air currents to traverse the city. Web-gliding is super fast and makes the city feel WAY smaller than it is, and is such a path of least resistance that you'll start only web-slinging when you absolutely have to. How is that the Spider-Man power fantasy? Eh.

- Marvel's Spider-Man 2 has less content than the first game, but a map that is 40% larger. As such, it feels empty and incomplete. Doesn't help that said content is very unfocused and relies too much on goofy mini-games, walking simulators, and wing-suit challenges.

- The writing. It deserves another mention. The writing in this game was wretched.

Combat was fine, textures were great, and data streaming was top notch. The core technical team at Insomniac Games are still best in class, but they deserve a better writing crew and a better senior leadership that knows how to focus in on a core concept. Marvel's Spider-Man 1 felt like an Arkham game with Spider-Man. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 felt like a Sony "cinematic experience" AAA ESG game with Spider-Man. I prefer the former over the latter.

edit addition: also, I liked the soundtrack more in the first game. It leaned heavier into the science fiction aspect of Spider-Man. The detective / hacking song and the main theme were spectacular.
Última edição por Ingel Riday; 27 de jan. às 11:50
Escrito originalmente por Bruce:
If I had to choose between them to play, which one is better?
After playing remastered for almost 300 hours on just PC, and playing about 100 hours of Spider-Man 2 on PS5 I can say for free roam and gameplay Spider-Man 2 is far superior to Spider-Man remastered, the combat feels better more combos, symbiote abilities, new gadgets. Traversal is FARRRR SUPERIOR, probably the most fun traversal system in any game. Spider-Man Remastered however had a more sound story and plot with a lot more emotional beats. As whole to me spider-man 2 is a better game, but on a first run I’d say I enjoyed Spider-Man remastered more, but after beating both games it’s a lot better coming back to Spider-Man 2 to just free roam.
TNX. 27 de jan. às 14:06 
Escrito originalmente por mareshel:
Escrito originalmente por TNX.:
In terms of gameplay, Spider-Man 2
In terms of story, Spider-Man 1

why is most of people hate second game's story i dont understand i havent played yet but as a big spiderman fan this game will awesome in my opinion
I'm not hating on it, big Spider-Man fan as well but it just lacks in a lot of areas that needed to get fleshed out like Peter and the symbiote, the way his attitude and emotions change rather than a parasite slowly taking over his body and they didn't flesh out Venom as much as he needed to be. There's other things but I don't hate it, just indifferent to it
Shirakani 27 de jan. às 17:30 
Escrito originalmente por Ingel Riday:

- The traversal changes in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 just did not work for me. The original zone from Marvel's Spider-Man 1 was very fine-tuned for the web-slinging mechanic and overall character speed. It flowed wonderfully and you could tell that someone put WAY too much thought into building heights, optimal swinging paths, and so on. In Marvel's Spider-Man 2, you move WAY faster... but the buildings are in the same places at the same heights. So a lot of web-slinging paths and routes just don't work very well anymore, and it feels off... not that it matters, because you can web-glide and use air currents to traverse the city. Web-gliding is super fast and makes the city feel WAY smaller than it is, and is such a path of least resistance that you'll start only web-slinging when you absolutely have to. How is that the Spider-Man power fantasy? Eh.

This is my biggest problem with SM2 in general... very specifically the web-wings.

The game larger map makes it so that you NEED to use these wings to get around in a reasonable amount of time... and... well... If I wanted to play a game centered around GLIDING OR FLIGHT, I'd go pick up a Batman or Superman game... not SPIDER-MAN, who should be all about swinging.

"Well don't use them then!" I hear you say... and sure, that'd work... if the game was not COMPLETELY TAILORED for this new mechanic making it so that if you didn't use them, you're basically running a race with one leg only.

This is a problem that cannot be fixed with mods... and by that I mean in the sense of ok sure, you can 'mod the swing speed' so the wings are unnecessary, but that also breaks the feel and flow of the game... It was a horrendous, huge mistake to even increase the speed in the first place.

The original intent was to have Peter monitor one section of the city and Miles the other, and if they'd actually stuck with that ie lock the respective duo to their section of the city... that would actually have been alright!... But the way it is, you have a 'too big' sandbox that requires a very 'non Spider-Man' mechanic to traverse, thus breaking the feel of being Spider-Man in the first place.

All the rest of the negatives ie the SBI tier slop and DEI garbage etc can thankfully be gutted out by modding the game's region to Middle East, so I'm not concerned with that.
They are both great in their own ways. I prefer the first game, but Spider-man 2 does many things better. Luckily we don't have to choose.
Malrottian 27 de jan. às 21:21 
Lot more tools in 2, lot more story in 1.
Sorum13 28 de jan. às 12:36 
O 2 obviamente, the second for sure.
Neither one because they are both anti white propaganda propped up by Blackrock. DO NOT BUY.
Raymunator 30 de abr. às 18:53 
that's a surprisingly complicated question because both games do things better than the other and overall it can be hard to decide which one is ultimately the better game.

if you ask me, though, even though i much prefer spider-man 2, i have much more fond memories of the first game since i feel like that one gets a lot more stuff right. that's not to say sm2 has no redeeming qualities, however. to list a few, the web swinging is MASSIVELY improved, boss fights are much better, the mj missions, albeit still terrible, are easier, more quick, and in much smaller quantities than the first game, and the post game is also much more fun than in the first game since you can actually fight late game enemies in regular crimes after beating the story.

but the first game tells a better story, has better though still mediocre stealth, and while the combat is very cheesable, you can also do some insane ♥♥♥♥ by combining gadgets. plus there's also the whole thing about msmr being able to run on a potato while sm2 struggles on even the cutting edge of pc hardware.

i'd say that unless you really want to play as peter, though, that you get miles morales on sale and then see if you want to play the other two games. miles' game is extremely short and the story is not that great either, but from a gameplay standpoint i think it takes a lot of what worked in the first game and enhances it, plus there is a lot of stuff there that would later get reworked for sm2. if you don't want to play that game, then i'd say go for the first one.
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