The entire idea of "Nuclear Winter" was actually research funded by then USSR in order to scare people

[GAY_WEED_DAD_69]

And force them to demand their democratic governments to limit/reduce nuclear weapons...

Honestly the "countdown" timer should be a LOT longer for that "pollution". Sure, it could happen, but it would require ALL weapons being basically used... and even then it's highly doubtful it will cause a nuclear winter on any scale we imagine.

For example - all of the nukes used up till today for testing haven't even reached a FRACTION of the soot a single volcanic eruption could reach

Source: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87T00413R000100170003-9.pdf

[Sgt. Steiner]

I discovered "nuclear winter" when we relocated to Cleveland in 1987. In general, the sun don't shine up there all winter months.

Anyway, just scratching the surface of this game using the tutorials. Pretty impressed so far.

Best wishes to all you folks out there, as well!

[A Bat From Wuhan]

It's not necessarily the nukes themselves that cause "nuclear winter", it's what they blow up.

Think about how much ash and soot a regular old forest fire causes. A year or two ago when Canada was having some large wildfires, my area of the North-East United States, hundreds of miles away from the nearest fire, was blanketed in smog for days.

Now imagine if you set fire to every forest and city across the US and former USSR. That is a lot of ♥♥♥♥ being burned and blanketing the atmosphere. That's what would cause a "nuclear winter".

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So LA is cooked

[max]

Originally posted by GAY_WEED_DAD_69:

And force them to demand their democratic governments to limit/reduce nuclear weapons...

Honestly the "countdown" timer should be a LOT longer for that "pollution". Sure, it could happen, but it would require ALL weapons being basically used... and even then it's highly doubtful it will cause a nuclear winter on any scale we imagine.

For example - all of the nukes used up till today for testing haven't even reached a FRACTION of the soot a single volcanic eruption could reach

Source: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87T00413R000100170003-9.pdf

Pretty sure cia.gov is a top notch non-biased source.

[max]

Look those damn westerners turn frigging frogs gay.

Source: kgb.ru/gay-fish.pdf

[Autumn]

To be fair, it's also there for the absolute ♥♥♥♥-tons of radiation you've put out by a full-scale nuclear war. It's not like you can poke around at Trinity today without vomiting blood, and native Hawaiians regularly protest over the damage from the tests there. I'm assuming salting the entire Earth and not just mostly-open desert and ocean with nukes would do some pretty bad damage to the entire globe, even the parts that weren't nuked directly.

[Strap me to a Missile]

Originally posted by max:

Originally posted by GAY_WEED_DAD_69:

And force them to demand their democratic governments to limit/reduce nuclear weapons...

Honestly the "countdown" timer should be a LOT longer for that "pollution". Sure, it could happen, but it would require ALL weapons being basically used... and even then it's highly doubtful it will cause a nuclear winter on any scale we imagine.

For example - all of the nukes used up till today for testing haven't even reached a FRACTION of the soot a single volcanic eruption could reach

Source: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87T00413R000100170003-9.pdf

Pretty sure cia.gov is a top notch non-biased source.

The CIA would never lie to us.

[Cabbage]

Oh good, I guess nuclear war isn't so bad after all. Let 'em loose boys!

[Urk_da_WAAAGH!]

Originally posted by GAY_WEED_DAD_69:

And force them to demand their democratic governments to limit/reduce nuclear weapons...

Honestly the "countdown" timer should be a LOT longer for that "pollution". Sure, it could happen, but it would require ALL weapons being basically used... and even then it's highly doubtful it will cause a nuclear winter on any scale we imagine.

For example - all of the nukes used up till today for testing haven't even reached a FRACTION of the soot a single volcanic eruption could reach

Source: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87T00413R000100170003-9.pdf

By their peak during the cold war the USSR had more than 40 thousand nuclear devices and the US wasn't a lot behind those numbers (and even more so with their allies France + UK).

Let's say one of those nukes only gets 1% of the ash a volcano would. Even then we are looking at more than half a thousand volcanos erupting planet wise.

You should know that forest fires have caused harsher than normal winters even during the medieval ages. Is important to also point that their distribution on the atmosphere may not be visually perceivable but still block just enough sunlight to drop 1-2°C.

To finish, the USSR in 1982 had a very comprehensive study of what a nuclear war would do to their territory and the result was Brezhnev declaring "No First Use" what probably saved humanity from a preemptive strike during Able Archer 83.

To finish, to this day the country with the most aggressive nuclear weapons policy is the US that has for decades rejected to sign treaties and/or give a "No First Use" declaration that even damn North Korea has to some degree (they don't have a proper no first use policy but have a policy to not open hostilities with preemptive strikes).

[Autumn]

Originally posted by Urk_da_WAAAGH!:

Originally posted by GAY_WEED_DAD_69:

And force them to demand their democratic governments to limit/reduce nuclear weapons...

Honestly the "countdown" timer should be a LOT longer for that "pollution". Sure, it could happen, but it would require ALL weapons being basically used... and even then it's highly doubtful it will cause a nuclear winter on any scale we imagine.

For example - all of the nukes used up till today for testing haven't even reached a FRACTION of the soot a single volcanic eruption could reach

Source: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87T00413R000100170003-9.pdf

By their peak during the cold war the USSR had more than 40 thousand nuclear devices and the US wasn't a lot behind those numbers (and even more so with their allies France + UK).

Let's say one of those nukes only gets 1% of the ash a volcano would. Even then we are looking at more than half a thousand volcanos erupting planet wise.

You should know that forest fires have caused harsher than normal winters even during the medieval ages. Is important to also point that their distribution on the atmosphere may not be visually perceivable but still block just enough sunlight to drop 1-2°C.

To finish, the USSR in 1982 had a very comprehensive study of what a nuclear war would do to their territory and the result was Brezhnev declaring "No First Use" what probably saved humanity from a preemptive strike during Able Archer 83.

To finish, to this day the country with the most aggressive nuclear weapons policy is the US that has for decades rejected to sign treaties and/or give a "No First Use" declaration that even damn North Korea has to some degree (they don't have a proper no first use policy but have a policy to not open hostilities with preemptive strikes).

To be fair, most volcanic eruptions don't cause nuclear-winter-esque effects either. It took an eruption equivalent to roughly 30,000 megatons to kick off the Year Without A Summer. For comparison, Tsar Bomba was about 60 megatons.

Being spread out would from my understanding make each nuke count for far more, though, especially as they start forest (and urban) fires. Meanwhile, most of what a volcano puts into the atmosphere is just whatever rock happens to be between the mantle and the sky.

[Saides]

"Vy didnt you tell ze vorld eh?"

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tsar bomba was 50 mt