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Sanitylost 8 ENE 2014 a las 10:02 a. m.
Looks like a flash game
Just saying, since some folks hate to pay for flash-games. Art style remembers me of Toss the Turtle, a flashgame on newgrounds
Última edición por Tito Shivan; 8 ENE 2014 a las 12:57 p. m.
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Leaky 8 ENE 2014 a las 10:08 a. m. 
Gonzossm made Toss the Turtle and this game's arts. So yeah, their art styles look alike, weirdly ;)
Wolforn 8 ENE 2014 a las 10:16 a. m. 
What does it matter if it's made in flash? Just because newgrounds is full of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ flash games doesn't mean it's not possible to put the effort in and make something worth paying for in flash. It's not like he's charging a fortune for it either buddy.
Darthsabre 8 ENE 2014 a las 10:21 a. m. 
There are many falsh games that were successful. Binding of Isaac being one of them.
Just because a game looks/programed in flash doesn't mean it's a bad game :)
Tomba 8 ENE 2014 a las 10:30 a. m. 
Well thank god you are here to point out it looks like a flash game. People would have just spent their hard earned fortune on buying this game without looking at the screenshots if you wouldn't have warned us!!!:gaper:
dougie jones 8 ENE 2014 a las 10:52 a. m. 
The art is done by Gonzossm you may know him from... toss the turtle.
Echtzeit 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:04 a. m. 
You look like a flash game.
JoeShmo 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:11 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Echtzeit:
You look like a flash game.

Im 1/16th Flash game ill have you know! Such racism!
murderbits 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:11 a. m. 
Because it is. Or, at least, it's an iteration on a type of flash game that was found frequently half a dozen years ago. A couple a bucks or so might be reasonable if you enjoy this kind of game, though.



Publicado originalmente por Wolforn:
What does it matter if it's made in flash? Just because newgrounds is full of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ flash games doesn't mean it's not possible to put the effort in and make something worth paying for in flash. It's not like he's charging a fortune for it either buddy.

I think the issue people have with free flash games showing up on Steam is the same they have with free or 99-cent iOS games showing up on Steam for $10 or $15. As long as there is some amount of curation (of which there is none, unfortunately), to keep the library from becoming a mess of janky garbage, it shouldn't be a problem for any reasonable people.

Also, if people don't like the price (I don't), you can just wait until it is on sale again. It was on GreenManGaming (and a few other places) for as little as 98-cents a year ago.
Última edición por murderbits; 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:14 a. m.
Coffee 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:29 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Sanitylost:
Just saying, since some folks hate to pay for flash-games. Art style remembers me of Toss the Turtle, a flashgame on n3wgr0unds

Look like another person who don't realize flash games also have development costs.

And anyway, you played 249 hours on Binding of Isaac, not like your post isn't really serious.
Última edición por Coffee; 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:31 a. m.
runequester 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:35 a. m. 
It IS a flash game. Here's the thing: You will know from the screenshots if this is a game you'll enjoy or not.
If it is, throw the guy the couple of bucks and buy it. If not, then go play something else.
通讯录 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:40 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Wolforn:
Why is n3wgr0unds censored?

rofl
JoeShmo 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:41 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Branthog:
Because it is. Or, at least, it's an iteration on a type of flash game that was found frequently half a dozen years ago. A couple a bucks or so might be reasonable if you enjoy this kind of game, though.



Publicado originalmente por Wolforn:
What does it matter if it's made in flash? Just because newgrounds is full of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ flash games doesn't mean it's not possible to put the effort in and make something worth paying for in flash. It's not like he's charging a fortune for it either buddy.

I think the issue people have with free flash games showing up on Steam is the same they have with free or 99-cent iOS games showing up on Steam for $10 or $15. As long as there is some amount of curation (of which there is none, unfortunately), to keep the library from becoming a mess of janky garbage, it shouldn't be a problem for any reasonable people.

Agreed.

Its not really the fact that it is a flash game that throws up red flags (although most flash games really are designed terribly, thats the staple of the format) , its the fact that it IS a flash game, and as such the context of it being on the steam store for sale is rules for question.

There are 2 red flags in my mind when it comes to flash games on steam.

1. Steam censors the word "Newgrounds" , so apparently they are disuasive of that croud for some reason.

2. 99% of flash games have to be sold via 3rd party sites (Always personal sites, or *collective sites of flash games downloaded and uploaded without permission). If one crops up on a place like Desura or Steam, its a fluke under their radar (Because we all know Steam doesnt do quality checks on their games) .


Flash games have ALWAYS been free projects, because the format is for beginners learning multimedia and other similar fields. Since the dawn of flash, it has been a "childish" profession (Not in maturity *although there certainly has been an extensive list of those lol*, but because of its relation with other more extensive creation tools). When you first start learning things like 2d modeling / animation / multimedia, they sit you infront of Flash. Its the easiest creation tool for animations and games, with 0% need to know code.

The status quo, and somewhat stigma surrounding Flash, has been that it has been treated similar to Street Art; you create something for others to enjoy and to create a type of portfolio, but you cant charge someone money for spraypainting their concrete wall on 4th street.

I will admit that there are some really extensive Flash games out there, but those are very far and few between in the Flash scene. Its much more probable to get struck by lightning, while at your computer, than to find a Flash game built with the same depth and "polish" as a traditional coded game. There are exceptions to both sides, but its like comparing a "color by number" painting to something done on canvas. They both reach the same general point , but have gotten there by two entirely different methods and difficulties.

In retrospect, I believe that good quality *anything* should be worth something, but you have to take into account the work put into making it. A 15 dollar flash game will never be on par with a 15 dolar C# , C++ , Unity, etc. game. But a well done flash game is still worth "Something", it just has to accept that its going to be scrutinized heavily, because of what it is; Similar to charging high prices on "Game maker" games. Yes, your game maker jrpg may have taken a lot of time to make for you, and it may actually be entertaining, but its a overly saturated game from an overly saturated genre thats plauged with the same "Free EVERYWHERE" situation as Flash.

Its like trying to sell cups of water on the sidewalk (like a lemonade stand) . Yes, your work should be rewarded, but you are selling cups of water on the sidewalk.... .
Última edición por Tito Shivan; 8 ENE 2014 a las 12:57 p. m.
Little Sister 8 ENE 2014 a las 11:44 a. m. 
It doesn't matter if it's a flash game as long as it's fun, and it is. By buying this you support the devs so they can keep making awesome games. And c'mon, it's 5 euros/dollars.
jamieo01 8 ENE 2014 a las 12:14 p. m. 
It's a shame there is a lot of people making uneducated statements on this forum, if you don't know what you are talking about don't bother posting.
Darxio 8 ENE 2014 a las 12:27 p. m. 
To me, as long as a flash port isn't more than $5 on Steam, it's okay by me(Future sale prices will bring it radically low, after all).

This isn't over $5, so I'm not upset(Even on sale right now).
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