How are we supposed to know cyclops / fragments?

[FireDogy]

Disregarding the wiki and reddit. How the absolute hell are we supposed to know about the locations for the Cyclops fragments?

I have completed all radio calls, been to Sunbeam island, Floating island, disease factory, and more...-But I have not found a single hint toward cyclops fragments being located in the murky water behind the aurora or the mushroom forest nearby.

It is so frustrating considering how essential the Cyclops is, but how much it is obscured in that no story paths take you anywhere near (except for the potential engine parts inside the Aurora, which again are rng)

[Steelfleece]

I usually spot a Cyclops fragment as soon as I get to the edge of the mushroom forest alongside the Aurora. Once I see one, I start searching for more.

[Coops]

There are no hints to find fragments.
Look in both Mushroom forests and around the sunbeam island in deeper waters.

[sweng]

By exploring?

[Top Gun]

I think the blueprint/fragment hunt is the weakest part of the game, because depending on where you wander you can get extremely unlucky and miss items that are required to progress further. The best way to make it more guaranteed is to start building mini-bases with scanner rooms spaced throughout the map (or build a single one and keep deconstructing and moving it when you're done). Scan for wrecks, and deploy beacons over the ones you've already fully cleared.

[RiddleBox]

As others have said. You aren't. You're supposed to use the technologies you have to help discover these the things, such as the Scanner Room. Scanner Room is your best friend on your first play through, especially if you get scared of the darker deeper areas. I never have to go to the mountains or to the Aurora to get these fragments. You can get 6 of the 9 safely on the edge of the Sparse Reef. The rest you can get from the Mushroom forests, I usually go to the one furthest from the Aurora. Technically you deduce that the further out and down you go, the better technology you find to progress.

[Carnatux]

Exploration

[Ignis]

While the scanner room idea is good and that's the reason I marked this answer, you get signals for the lifepod 13 in the Mushroom Forest, which has two of the necessary fragments. You might find engine fragments in the cargo bay inside the Aurora, otherwise you can find them around the wreck in Underwater Islands, or Mountains.

This is an exploration game, signals aren't just there to lead you to one lifepod. They show you the biomes, caves, wrecks.

Exploring wrecks is what you learn to do to unlock the fragments.

[dreamrider]

Ignis: I respect all that you do and all the help you have provided EVERYONE over the years,
BUT ...

I think you meant to say, "...Mushroom Forest, which has two of the three necessary TYPES of Cyclops fragments (3 fragment scans of each type are needed). "
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OP: Other zones, not quite as good, but not too dangerous, for Cyclops Engine fragments are:
- The Crag Fields, in the south. (Beware Bonesharks, but they die quick if you slash them or ram them with Seamoth.)
- The western fringe of the southern Crash Zone. (View it from a distance. If you see a frag / possible frag, go in LOW and careful to scan the frag, and don't go over the big sand dune of the border. Over there be Reapers - Garrh.)

There are other places, but bigger risks.

[FireDogy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RiddleBox:

As others have said. You aren't. You're supposed to use the technologies you have to help discover these the things, such as the Scanner Room. Scanner Room is your best friend on your first play through, especially if you get scared of the darker deeper areas. I never have to go to the mountains or to the Aurora to get these fragments. You can get 6 of the 9 safely on the edge of the Sparse Reef. The rest you can get from the Mushroom forests, I usually go to the one furthest from the Aurora. Technically you deduce that the further out and down you go, the better technology you find to progress.

I get that now, but the scanner shows fragments that I already have as well. So without a goal to aim for, I don't know when I have the things required to do stuff. Things as impactful as Cyclops (and the whole fragment hunt functionality of the scanner) Should have been part of the multitude of radio calls, dialogues on PDA, or smth so that the player is at the very least guided towards it in some way.

I was looking for a reason for why the achievements drop off so heavily around that point, and the lack of red thread seems to be the cause, as you and others here perfectly outlined.

Also @Ignis I actually spent an hour swimming around the pod 13 mushroom forest to no success. The only reason I knew the fragments were there was because of reddit, otherwise I would have given up. Leaving the discovery of such vital items purely to chance, without (for example, hinting at it in the pod 13 datapod) is just a big risk imo.

[dreamrider]

@FireDogy:
Look in your PDA, on the page(s) that shows blueprints that you know.
Once you start scanning fragments for a new device blueprint, Those pages will show the blueprint in one of the tabbed sections.
It will also show how many fragments you have already scanned / still need to have a complete blueprint available for fabricating / building.

If you don't mind using it, you can google Subnautica wiki Cyclops. The sidebar of that page will show you what each scannable fragment looks like. There are 3 fragment models scattered in the wild for each major component of the Cyclops. However, I believe (not quite sure) that you can scan two different occurrences of the same fragment model and get blueprint assembly credit for both.

If you don't go browsing through the other pages of the wiki, you will not spoil yourself.

[FireDogy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von dreamrider:

@FireDogy:
Look in your PDA, on the page(s) that shows blueprints that you know.
Once you start scanning fragments for a new device blueprint, Those pages will show the blueprint in one of the tabbed sections.
It will also show how many fragments you have already scanned / still need to have a complete blueprint available for fabricating / building.

If you don't mind using it, you can google Subnautica wiki Cyclops. The sidebar of that page will show you what each scannable fragment looks like. There are 3 fragment models scattered in the wild for each major component of the Cyclops. However, I believe (not quite sure) that you can scan two different occurrences of the same fragment model and get blueprint assembly credit for both.

If you don't go browsing through the other pages of the wiki, you will not spoil yourself.

I have found all the fragments and that, but thanks for the tip! This entire post is more to understand the gameplay logic behind getting people lost by providing insuficient guidance and relying on googling (as you mention, the wikipedia etc)

[lex luthor]

if you really dont want to do the saerching then do what i do and check on youtube, there are thousands of short vids showing how exactly to find each and every blueprint.