alt F4 out of game destroys your save game.

[Kezzbot]

so i alt F4 out of the game a couple of times and then today when loading the game I spawned in a totally new location. 2 of my bases are gone including my main base with all my stuff in them . Cyclops is gone. So in terms of bases the game has reverted to right back to much earlier in the game but i still have all the blueprints to make stuff like the cyclops which i only got recently. so looks like the game just deleted my bases and all my stuff in them. a total bummer, i was near the end. I think....

[Breymen]

no way? you closed a game without saving it and it's set to last save you made? that's wild

[Warhawk]

Close the game properly, eh?

[Coops]

No autosave means you have to manually save often.

[Remnant Melody]

Why do you alt+f4 out of games? That is not a good way to close out applications. Its suppose to be for emergency issues. Of course it rolled you back to your last normal save. When you exit the game normally it saves you properly.

[EleventhStar]

Originally posted by Remnant Melody:

Why do you alt+f4 out of games? That is not a good way to close out applications. Its suppose to be for emergency issues. Of course it rolled you back to your last normal save. When you exit the game normally it saves you properly.

if alt f4ing out of your software causes bad things to happen you should just put in an override. e.g. you can just make your game close properly or autosave on alt f4 if you want, or disable alt f4 entirely.

alt f4 is just the same as pressing the close windows cross for many people, so as a developer you should treat it that way. ctrl-alt-del / task manager are for emergencies these days.

[penner3]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

alt f4 is just the same as pressing the close windows cross for many people, so as a developer you should treat it that way.

If that's true, why not just quit the game normally?

[Ensign Toby]

alt f4 is just the same as pressing the close windows cross for many people

Just because "many people" are stoopyd (and they are), doesn't mean you should be too...

In Subnautica, if you don't Save then Quit, you are going to lose progress (as designed)...
FYI: You can also use this to your advantage, if planning on doing something very "risky".

[EleventhStar]

Originally posted by penner3:

If that's true, why not just quit the game normally?

alt f4 is typically faster/less buttons to press.

Originally posted by Ensign Toby:

Just because "many people" are stoopyd (and they are), doesn't mean you should be too...

it's really case by case. nine times of ten i use alt f4 precisely to bypass autosaving and be able to re-do something when you aren't supposed to.

but for example in a city builder i'm usually grateful if the game autosaves when it crashes, and if the game can do that then why bother quitting the normal way instead of alt f4ing?

dark souls and similar examples is another good example. when you quit those normally you have to go through all the console style menu animations again. aft f4 can easily save you 30 seconds there.

(and ofc for bad software that keeps the process running after you "properly" close it, you might as well just end task from the get go.)

[Coops]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

Originally posted by penner3:

If that's true, why not just quit the game normally?

alt f4 is typically faster/less buttons to press.

So is running your car into a brick wall to stop it.
But using the brake and shifting to park is a better option.

[EleventhStar]

Originally posted by Coops:

So is running your car into a brick wall to stop it.
But using the brake and shifting to park is a better option.

i dunno i've never had to go to the hospital from alt f4ing before.

can't remember the last time alt f4 caused by computer to blue screen either, or even the last time i unintentionally lost progress.

honestly the only negative i can think of is changed settings not saving on a crash/alt f4 in world of warcraft, so you had to quit the game properly once before you could go back to alt f4ing.

[Coops]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

Originally posted by Coops:

So is running your car into a brick wall to stop it.
But using the brake and shifting to park is a better option.

i dunno i've never had to go to the hospital from alt f4ing before.

can't remember the last time alt f4 caused by computer to blue screen either, or even the last time i unintentionally lost progress.

Refer to the OP. That's what this thread is about.

[EleventhStar]

Originally posted by Coops:

Refer to the OP. That's what this thread is about.

he almost certainly just didn't save and misremembers when he got what blueprints, and thus would have lost his progress with a regular exit from the game too.
the only difference is that he would have gotten a warning box that he didn't save with a regular exit.

it would be funny if it's actually true though, cause that means there IS some windows override for alt f4 within the game.

[admiral1018]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

alt f4 is just the same as pressing the close windows cross for many people, so as a developer you should treat it that way. ctrl-alt-del / task manager are for emergencies these days.

I would imagine those same people experience frequent computer problems as well...

Alt-F4 is basically the same as crashing a program. It shouldn't damage the core program itself, but anything in memory at the time is subject to damage and corruption. It's generally fine to close a browser this way, but most software is designed to be shutdown properly. Those "people" you mentioned need to learn proper PC practices rather than expecting developers to do something. And note that Alt-F4 is an operating system function, so there is nothing gaming devs could do anyway.

[Just Chill]

@OP
Oh, so you like autosaves?
https://github.com/DingoDjango/snAutosave/releases

On hardcore you are forced to save when quitting the game. I got used to that, especially as saving before any danger does not help as the savegame will be deleted anyways if not survived. XD

[Remnant Melody]

Originally posted by admiral1018:

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

alt f4 is just the same as pressing the close windows cross for many people, so as a developer you should treat it that way. ctrl-alt-del / task manager are for emergencies these days.

I would imagine those same people experience frequent computer problems as well...

Alt-F4 is basically the same as crashing a program. It shouldn't damage the core program itself, but anything in memory at the time is subject to damage and corruption. It's generally fine to close a browser this way, but most software is designed to be shutdown properly. Those "people" you mentioned need to learn proper PC practices rather than expecting developers to do something. And note that Alt-F4 is an operating system function, so there is nothing gaming devs could do anyway.

Yeah, no idea what EleventhStar is on about as that is the most ludicrous statement i've read about operating functionality i've ever heard. but it explains a lot of the younger gens having SO MUCH computer problems. Causing it themselves for using methods not really meant to used that way.. then blame others for their lack of understanding rather than own up to just having bad info on the net from the numerous alt+f4 jokes. :P I

No, please don't ALT+F4 out of programs if you can close it down properly.. Its really not hard folks. You Alt+F4 at your own discretion, no developer should ever hand hold people to such a degree because they can't help themselves with using a command NOT MEANT to help you save data in almost every case.