How do you get the teeth out of the stalker? (*Question answered*) (*The answer is dumb but that's not the answerers fault, it's the game's*)(*There is, however, further discourse*)

[Selva]

Seriously. I've tried knife. I've tried the tractor beam gun. I've tried the repair tool. How the bloody (smurf) to you get the bloody things teeth out? Thanks in advance for any clues.
At my wits end with this,
- Selva

[Phaota]

Give them a piece of metal scrap.

[2ugly]

If you scan them and read the information given there are clues. You also might have missed teeth laying on the ocean floor where the stalkers tend to collect that scrap. Items in the game that you might be looking for don't blink in the distance. It could be right under your nose if you're not observing the surroundings. Many games have trained the gamer to look for blinking things. This game will have you going back to locations for things you may have missed the first time you looked. Scan everything you can.

[Selva]

Um... So. The stalkers iv'e been killing to get their teeth can't have their teeth removed by any means?

[Selva]

...posthumously i mean.

[Bleep]

nope. phaota gave the best advise

[Selva]

I get that the game is not set up to give teeth from a slain stalker fish. But that is extremely dumb.

[Selva]

Originally posted by Phaota:

Give them a piece of metal scrap.

Thanks. 8)

[Dirak2012]

Originally posted by Selva:

Um... So. The stalkers iv'e been killing to get their teeth can't have their teeth removed by any means?

The game doesn't want to encourage you to kill creatures, that's why there are no "drops" from dead creatures.

[Sputnik]

You mean use guile instead of violence? In a video game?

[rdbury]

There is an in-game "hint" for this in the Degasi logs. But you get it relatively late in the game, probably after you first need a stalker tooth. You can also scan a tooth for some information if you come across one, but that's kind of a catch-22. There's also a special sound effect when a stalker loses a tooth, but you'd have to be watching pretty carefully to make the connection. It seems like the game wants you to hang back and observe the stalkers for a few hours like David Attenborough, then maybe you'll figure it out. I have to agree that anyone who has played a videogame before would naturally assume that you get stalker teeth by killing stalkers.

[2ugly]

Killing everything is smart? Other games have trained you well.... well at least for those games.

That's right... just scanning a Stalker doesn't give you the clues needed... You need to find the voice logs that gives the hints. Could have sworn there was some clue in the scan data.... might be from the tooth itself.

Think everyone has killed at least 2 Stalkers trying to get teeth. Then hacked at it's face trying to remove a tooth.

What makes this game almost as fun to watch "blind play throughs" as it does playing it. You can really see one's intellect in figuring this stuff out. What's surprising will be that one gamer will figure it out, but completely miss something else, while another gamer completely misses the first and discovers the next. Then on reflection.... so did I.

Like watching someone discover a floater for the first time, but not make the connection that as they remove one.... the boulder sinks a little. The observant will notice this, and might try attaching the floater to another boulder, then notice it rise. If they take the next leap of logic.... "can I attach these things to fish".... then they have solved part of the equation. When they find a boulder covering a cave entrance.... they've already solved the problem. Got a pesky warper around.... attach a few floaters to it. Once your brain starts working in that direction.... the game becomes more fun.

@rdbury... Good observations. The sound hint was something I missed until much latter in game. Why I always turn off in-game or ambient dynamic music in any game like this. It's much too distracting and takes away the immersion. And causes a player to miss sound clues... when they may think it's part of the soundtrack. Plus it's more frightening when you don't have dynamic scary music being played to warn you of what's coming. Makes for some real jump scares.

[Selva]

I love hearing all this "this game isn't supposed to be violent" rhetoric about a game that gives you a knife that cooks the fish as you kill it.
I do get that there are clues as to getting these teeth non violently in several places. Great. But eventually a bit of logic needs to be used. The fish is dead and it's right there. Why am not able to salvage it's teeth? IF the game is going to force you to get teeth dropped instead of from the corpse there at least aught to be a decent reason for it. And there is none that I can find.

[Selva]

Originally posted by 2ugly:

Killing everything is smart? Other games have trained you well.... well at least for those games.

So, according to you, they are allowed to try to kill me but If I slay one of them it's wrong somehow. I think you need to have a better understanding of "survival" type games, of which this is one.

[Davion Knight]

Uh yeah, you don't kill them for their teeth, you get their teeth when they chew on metal things!

[Davion Knight]

Originally posted by Selva:

I love hearing all this "this game isn't supposed to be violent" rhetoric about a game that gives you a knife that cooks the fish as you kill it.
I do get that there are clues as to getting these teeth non violently in several places. Great. But eventually a bit of logic needs to be used. The fish is dead and it's right there. Why am not able to salvage it's teeth? IF the game is going to force you to get teeth dropped instead of from the corpse there at least aught to be a decent reason for it. And there is none that I can find.

It's the way the drop system works. You can snag fish right out of the water, and yes you can cook those fish right in the water, but those fish are objects that you can pick up to begin with.

It's like those walrus looking things that drop toxic balls, those toxic balls are items that you can pick up before they explode. The walrus looking things generates those balls under certain conditions.

The same thing is true for the Stalker teeth, they are generated by stalkers interacting with metal scraps. It's just the way the algorithm works! This game just isn't like other games!