seems you cant kill leviathans anymore (spoiler)

[𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒇. 𝕏]

Well, the gas pods still work on the small/mid size creatures, but leviathan class seem to be immune now.
I did experiments with the ampeel for a high hitpoint smaller creature and all goes well. but for the reaper/ghost, they seem to take being force fed poison like it never even happened. For a ghost I fed 3-4 large packs and .... nothing. I just did a reaper to verify with 2 34 pack in its mouth nice tasty treats and it didn't even blink.

Is this supposed to be the new behavior or is this a bug?

[boigeofkid]

Bet mods could do it.

[𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒇. 𝕏]

To be clear, my game is unmodded. I was just trying to figure out if this is the current expected behavior for the game.

[boigeofkid]

So that's the problem, could be a bug try reporting it.

[boigeofkid]

Stasis rifle and the thermoblade use the stasis on the head then go in and use the thermoblade count to 1-20 then shoot the stasis on again and repeat that I haven't tried it on GL. I searched it up so try it just don't go to its mouth might pick you up. Or you can use the seamoth with perimeter defense when it grabs you use it but if you don't wanna do that try to tame a GL but it's very dangerous because you need a seamoth and make it above or below 10 meters and lure the GL to the seamoth make it chew on it then it will follow you I don't think that will fight the other leviathans but it might not work but 50 50 it could work. so whatever you do please do not try that its 50 50 and it might not kill other leviathans but it's pretty cool yet could be useless. early (but not quite) impossible to take down a sea dragon, the smaller ghost leviathans and reaper leviathans can be killed by the player using only the limited weapons they are allowed to craft in-game. Just searched again to help. Reaper Leviathan has 5,000 hp so might take a while GL has 8,000 hp.

Or just use prawn with torpedo arm its does a lot of dmg or 500-550 damage.

[𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒇. 𝕏]

Well, aren't you just a diligent little busy beaver. I knew all that already. The problem with the knife killing is just the sheer time consumption, that's why killing with the gas pods is generally the preferred method. For a reaper, it's 125 knife hits (thermoblade) vs what should be approx. 500 dmg per pod, or just 10-11 pods as long as the creature is held still in stasis for the duration of the damage output.

[𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒇. 𝕏]

Also, using your seamoth as bait generally isn't a great idea as they don't hold up too well.

[boigeofkid]

oh

[boigeofkid]

Originally posted by 𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒇. 𝕏:

Well, aren't you just a diligent little busy beaver. I knew all that already. The problem with the knife killing is just the sheer time consumption, that's why killing with the gas pods is generally the preferred method. For a reaper, it's 125 knife hits (thermoblade) vs what should be approx. 500 dmg per pod, or just 10-11 pods as long as the creature is held still in stasis for the duration of the damage output.

You should be diligent you just shortened my sentence

[Ignis]

I think you overestimate a bit the damage of a gas pod.

So to answer to your question: it is neither. You just didn't insist enough.

[𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒇. 𝕏]

Originally posted by Ignis:

I think you overestimate a bit the damage of a gas pod.

So to answer to your question: it is neither. You just didn't insist enough.

Well, with the reaper (5k hp), I hit it twice w/ 34 pods per hit, so 68 pods in total. The ampell (3k hp) that I hit before succumbed to less than 20 (didn't really count on that one, I was just still a little pissed at the ghost being so resilient). So either the hp of the reaper or ghost has been changed or they just don't respond to gas anymore, or gas damage has been severely lowered.

Before the update (engine change) I'm fairly sure it was less than 25 for the reapers.

[Ez Duzit]

The other day I read an article (on some gaming site), listing all the leviathans approximate sizes and their strengths and weaknesses, (if they had any). There were a few that it came right out and said were unkillable.

[𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒇. 𝕏]

Originally posted by Ez Duzit:

The other day I read an article (on some gaming site), listing all the leviathans approximate sizes and their strengths and weaknesses, (if they had any). There were a few that it came right out and said were unkillable.

I've killed plenty of reapers and ghosts before the big patch came out. I actually enjoyed going hunting for them and clearing sections of the map so I could scavenge in peace. Yes, at first there is a little sphincter pucker, but as you get used to it, it's actually quite fun. just run up, wait for them to charge you face first. do a quick shot with the stasis to hold them in place, 2/3 second charge shot w/ the stasis to keep the hold for a final full charge shot, swim in their face, pull your pda and dump most/all of your pods, back away and enjoy. Easy peasy.

The only non killable leviathans that I have heard about are in below zero. (well, except for emperor, I haven't heard of anyone trying to kill that). Even though I have never done it myself, I have seen video of ppl killing sea dragons with prawn suits.

[dreamrider]

The Sea Dragon is only 5000 HP. Less than the Ghost.

Its two big advantages are the variety and deadliness of it's of its attacks, and the fact that the Thermoblade does NOT WORK on a Sea Dragon. But Stasis + pods or torpedoes should be fine, using Stasis + that lucky find Hardened Blade will work, if a bit tedious, any of the PRAWN Suit attack modes should work if you get past the arms and avoid the mouth.

I can say for certain that camera drone ramming does work, but it is too slow for most players. Impatient thrill seekers, all of 'ya.

@Prof X:
Not that I doubt your personal experience, Prof, but there used to be a lot of experienced and enthusiastic Levi hunters out there. And this is the first I have heard that pods are now a problem as a hunting technique since the 2.0 update.
HAS ANYONE ELSE had a similar experience with pod dropping levi's since the update?

Mr. Stuffy? Kippen? Dragonborn? DOT doesn't follow the forum, but I will ask in the comments section of his guide.

[dreamrider]

Originally posted by Ignis:

I think you overestimate a bit the damage of a gas pod.

So to answer to your question: it is neither. You just didn't insist enough.

@Ignis,

Ignis, it was pretty well established, by a number of hunters who are also calm and repeat players, that in 1.0, ~15 pods would do in a Reaper. (One of two people reported doing it with 12, but those fish may have had some prior damage on them.)

A Ghost would go down with about 20-25, as you would expect.

So, do I interpret your comment correctly that, to the best of your knowledge, there has been no nerfing of gas pods vs leviathans, or HP buffing of leviathans, in 2.0?
Has there been any "tweaking" or tightening of mechanics of stasis the might have this unintended result?

[Ignis]

One gaspod deals 100 damage over 10 seconds.

The fact you need less is a bug.

And nothing was done about it. No nerf, no fixing that bug.