Is the Prawn Suit Really needed?

[CrisGer]

Hello all, I have made progress and have all of the parts of the Prawn Suit after a number of trips to the Aurora, except for the grappler Arm. I have watched videos of its operation and i had no idea that it cannot rise and fall mormally but you have to literally lever it up to get it up high distances even with the Jet Pack. Why did they make it so cumbersome and frustrating? I am hesitant to spend time on making it and leanring to use it unless you old hands can tell me it is imposible to finish the game without it. so my main question is the use of the suit itself but i guess if it IS needed, is the Grappler Arm a must? there is a rope or something you can shoot out .to try to attach to stuff, is THAT a apart of the grappler Arm?

an odd machine for sure. :)

I mean no disrespect to the developers, just asking a sincere question about this. thanks

On another note, i did finally have the Dropeed out of the Seamoth bug, i was about to enter my remote base at the Mountain and suddenly i was on the ground and could not swim. was a bit scary. I reveretd to a save ...i guess there is no fix but to restart, I didnt have the seaglider so it was probably my own fault.

I am seeing messages from unknown entities not fully translated, i assume they are part of the story and not bugs as is a "message" of some eyes and a voice appearing in front of me in a fog, for a few seconds. Interesting stuff. My fav part is still building stuff and exploring. Found the caves on Mountain so amzingly confusing, i will take that little tool that drops out markers next time for sure :)

Thanks for the help and nice replies has made my playthrough much easier and nicer thanks
Chris

[Dirak2012]

You can literally pummel a leviathan to death with the prawn suit. It also has the deepest dive capacity. It makes you feel like a god walking among mortals...
But yes, the grappling arm is kind of mandatory...

Why is so clunky? Why a giant robotic suit wouldn't be a bit clunky?

[мятный карась]

yes

[мятный карась]

можно перевод на русском

[dreamrider]

You CAN complete the game story line without the PRAWN Suit.

The PRAWN Suit is THE most FUN vehicle in the game.

You do not need the grappler arm to get a lot of use out of the PRAWN Suit.

You can surmount ALMOST any surface hill / slope / cliff / ravine with just the built in jump jets, even though you may have to search around for a bit to find a workable pathway.

The enhanced Jump Jets add-on expands the navigable terrain hugely.

You cannot ascent hundreds of meters of vertical or overhanging cliff, like the Jellyshroom cave entrances, without the grapple arm, but you should be able to find a workable path through most other terrain. You just need to consider what you are stepping into carefully. There are exceptions.

There are some holes and ravines in the Kelp Forests, the Blood Kelp Zone, and especially he the Underwater Islands deeps and the Blood Kelp Trench that you couldn't get out of solely with the no-grappler PRAWN, but then, you should probably be taking the PRAWN to those operational areas with the Cyclops anyway.

You may not be able to get down to, or out of the deep underground biomes with ONLY the no-grapple PRAWN (get a Cyclops lift), but within them, with enhanced Jump Jets, you should be fine.

But all of this is moot, if you build a PRAWN. Grapple arm blueprints are readily available. They are found in and around at least 9 different chunks of wreck. The easiest of these are probably the northeastern Grand Reef wreck, wreck10, in the ravine, and, especially, the Underwater Islands wreck.

There is no need to be in a rush to finish this game. (Unless you are challenging yourself with a speedrun.) A few game days spent completing your equipment and learning to use new stuff will only help you and enhance your fun. IN CASE YOU DID NOT KNOW, despite the dire warnings and disease progression monitoring, Kharaa will NOT kill you in the context of the game.. You can take whatever time you need / wish. It's a big game environment.

[admiral1018]

It's not needed to ever complete the game, but don't think of it as a replacement for the Seamoth. It has a couple of specific uses, which include the ability to drill for materials and environmental/predator protection. The latter is very useful in the final parts of the game.

The best way to move the PRAWN around is to dock it in the Cyclops and deploy it in the areas you want to explore, treating it as a short range vehicle. You can ignore the vehicle completely if you really want to, but the game is easier if you take some time to learn how to use the PRAWN to your advantage.

[dreamrider]

On the "seabed walking" bug, there IS a fix, IF you are in an appropriate place.

1. Go through any hatch, even if you have to temporarily build one.
2. If you are in a high place, with an available drop, dive off. If you can dive about 40m, you will hit / convert back to water. Then you can swim back. (Of course, if the drop is not high enough, you may kill the character...but you were going to go back to a save game anyway, right?)

I THINK there is a console command that will convert yur environment setting as well. But at worst you can use the console to spawn in a Habitat Builder and some materials, to build a tube with a hatch. Then just deconstruct it all, and turn the console off again, sign out and sign in.

[Mentos]

I died from the disease. Game gave me very little time before I was a floating green corpse.

[Keysmash666]

Originally posted by The Necromancer:

I died from the disease. Game gave me very little time before I was a floating green corpse.

You literally cannot die from the disease without mods

[Dirak2012]

Originally posted by The Necromancer:

I died from the disease. Game gave me very little time before I was a floating green corpse.

The "disease" is literally just flavor text.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Keysmash666:

Originally posted by The Necromancer:

I died from the disease. Game gave me very little time before I was a floating green corpse.

You literally cannot die from the disease without mods

Originally posted by Dirak2012:

Originally posted by The Necromancer:

I died from the disease. Game gave me very little time before I was a floating green corpse.

The "disease" is literally just flavor text.

I believe their doing what the kids call these days "memeing"

[dreamrider]

The "disease death" post above could be a troll post.
Character death from Kharaa literally CANNOT happen, game mechanics wise.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by dreamrider:

The "disease death" post above could be been a troll post.
Character death from Kharaa literally CANNOT happen, game mechanics wise.

Usually whenever an account's marked as private 25% is because its sent to friends-only and maybe another 15% is because of personal reasons but the other 60% is because they tend to be trolls, which is usually how most of those kind of posts tend to fall into.

[CrisGer]

thanks all for the posts. sounds like a play thru needs the prawn Suit. I got all of the alient eggs into the tank in my main base and my oother two bases are self sustainting now, seamoth and Cyclops fullyi upgraded except for the fire supression item for the sub. I am bowing out of the game for now. Will return when the update comes out to check on things but i see a lot of grinding ahead and tough times and I dont need that right now in my life. Have other challenges to deal with and a major work project on hold for his play thru have enjoyed it a lot, you all have been wonderflui help and much appreicated.

It is a remarkable game. Quite unique in its own way. Just a bit tired of the monsters and the constant vigilance for food, water, and saftey. and air :) but wa sfun getting the base made and decorated with stuff. thansk again this is a very nice community ..and that docking mod for the sub is a great one.

cheers and bye for now.

Chris

[Nope]

Hate the Pawn suit, so on subsequence playthrough I just install mods that add arms and more depth module for seamoth and can't be happier, squishy as hell but I don't plan to fight leviathan anyway

[CrisGer]

Dreamrider wanted to add a special note to you. You have been a wonderful help to me in my play thru so far of SN. The game and community are lucky to have players and members like you who are willing and able to be cheerful, kind and generous helpers to all, and always willing to share ideas and expeinece. Your long time experinece with strategy games must have given you a lot of insight, i too started 50 years ago with actual wargaming models mostly naval and table top pen and pencil games..and have enjoyed seeing the blossoming of computer games from the very first. To be working in the field myself now has been also fun and always fun to discover a smart, intelligent well made game like SN. thanks again for your help and hope to see you again in the future. cheers

i dont ski myself but see a lot of it here in my small town in Southwetsern Colorado when i am here and not in Japan where i do most of my game work.

Chris