Interesting about accents

[Frau Blücher]

Has anyone else noticed, connected the dots, with accents in the voice logs and transmissions we get via PDAs/Radio? capt. holister and xo keen have very cultured, almost RP accents (particularly keen), and as we hear from other crewmembers, we hear neutral or even broguish accents like scots or even (maybe not sure) brooklyn by the time we get to the guy that runs the canteen?

You can almost hear a social strata by just listening to their voices and comparing them to their relative position in life. Just thought that interesting.

[Meewec]

i've read/watched/played many things where someone's accent or how they speak is taken as an indicator of their social status. there's been characters that force themselves to speak in different accents or with more refined words to either fit into a society better or because you weren't allowed to move up in whatever society it is without a certain accent or use of vocabulary.

happens in real life too, there's plenty of people that will look down on you if you don't for example enjoy caviar(which sounds ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disgusting) or if you can't pick which kind of wine you should drink with certain meals.

[Enheldor]

Originally posted by Meewec:

i've read/watched/played many things where someone's accent or how they speak is taken as an indicator of their social status. there's been characters that force themselves to speak in different accents or with more refined words to either fit into a society better or because you weren't allowed to move up in whatever society it is without a certain accent or use of vocabulary.

happens in real life too, there's plenty of people that will look down on you if you don't for example enjoy caviar(which sounds ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disgusting) or if you can't pick which kind of wine you should drink with certain meals.

>not knowing which pino to enjoy with your caviar

Pleb

[Frau Blücher]

Originally posted by Meewec:

i've read/watched/played many things where someone's accent or how they speak is taken as an indicator of their social status. there's been characters that force themselves to speak in different accents or with more refined words to either fit into a society better or because you weren't allowed to move up in whatever society it is without a certain accent or use of vocabulary.

happens in real life too, there's plenty of people that will look down on you if you don't for example enjoy caviar(which sounds ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disgusting) or if you can't pick which kind of wine you should drink with certain meals.

Oh I know it, I come from a british family, that's why it stood out in the game. Keen stuck out as particualrly posh which made me realize it.

Outside Alterra, when I think of Paul Torgal, I listen to his accent, rather broguish - it speaks to me of a self-made man who rose up from the bottom in mongolian society, separate from whatever standards Alterra has.

It's just neat what an accent can convey.

[Zemecon]

That makes me wonder, though, why the Degasi don't have Mongolian accents. Mongolian accents sound a lot like Turkish accents to me.

[Frau Blücher]

Originally posted by Salinité:

That makes me wonder, though, why the Degasi don't have Mongolian accents. Mongolian accents sound a lot like Turkish accents to me.

A very interesting question! well one can assume that people on earth moved around a lot over the centuries... but how did a scot end up in Mongolia? or was it just a flag of convencience? Did he idea of being mongolian transcend Mongolia once humans became space faring? more akin to an employer than a homeland...

EDIT: Bart doesn't count, those educational implants, we can note his accent is much different from his father's

[Zero]

Originally posted by Frau Blücher:

Originally posted by Salinité:

That makes me wonder, though, why the Degasi don't have Mongolian accents. Mongolian accents sound a lot like Turkish accents to me.

A very interesting question! well one can assume that people on earth moved around a lot over the centuries... but how did a scot end up in Mongolia? or was it just a flag of convencience? Did he idea of being mongolian transcend Mongolia once humans became space faring? more akin to an employer than a homeland...

EDIT: Bart doesn't count, those educational implants, we can note his accent is much different from his father's

pretty sure its been turned into just another corporate entity within the universe, and they work for them.

[Zemecon]

Originally posted by Frau Blücher:

Originally posted by Salinité:

That makes me wonder, though, why the Degasi don't have Mongolian accents. Mongolian accents sound a lot like Turkish accents to me.

A very interesting question! well one can assume that people on earth moved around a lot over the centuries... but how did a scot end up in Mongolia? or was it just a flag of convencience? Did he idea of being mongolian transcend Mongolia once humans became space faring? more akin to an employer than a homeland...

My guess is that Paul and Bart were hired by a Mongolian state and that they originally came from a future U.K. but that where you actually come from is no longer important. I don't know. But what gets me when it comes to the lore is that it seems the Mongolian states somehow reached distant space earlier than other organizations on Earth did, or that they were able to go further somehow. Was the Mongolia we know today really capable of that? Maybe it participated in the Chinese space program or something like that.

[Xautos]

Oh my old boy! I think it is time for some Port, nothing like some Port to wash away your troubles... Oh i do say! Is that cumcumber sandwiches? How delightful.

Originally posted by Salinité:

That makes me wonder, though, why the Degasi don't have Mongolian accents. Mongolian accents sound a lot like Turkish accents to me.

Evet, Moğollar geliyorlar! xD


I do think these sterotypes need to go away honestly, an accent is an accent.

[Enheldor]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Oh my old boy! I think it is time for some Port, nothing like some Port to wash away your troubles... Oh i do say! Is that cumcumber sandwiches? How delightful.

Originally posted by Salinité:

That makes me wonder, though, why the Degasi don't have Mongolian accents. Mongolian accents sound a lot like Turkish accents to me.

Evet, Moğollar geliyorlar! xD


I do think these sterotypes need to go away honestly, an accent is an accent.

Port with a cucumber sandwich? It's like you don't even know the complexities of flavour. /s

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Enheldor:

Originally posted by Xautos:

Oh my old boy! I think it is time for some Port, nothing like some Port to wash away your troubles... Oh i do say! Is that cumcumber sandwiches? How delightful.



Evet, Moğollar geliyorlar! xD


I do think these sterotypes need to go away honestly, an accent is an accent.

Port with a cucumber sandwich? It's like you don't even know the complexities of flavour. /s

My brother has weird tastes as well, he likes to crumble oxo cubes on tuna. I'm sure he isn't the only one out there with strange tastes. another sterotype it seems, people can eat what they like.

[Enheldor]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by Enheldor:

Port with a cucumber sandwich? It's like you don't even know the complexities of flavour. /s

My brother has weird tastes as well, he likes to crumble oxo cubes on tuna. I'm sure he isn't the only one out there with strange tastes. another sterotype it seems, people can eat what they like.

Oxo cubes? What are those? As for strange tastes, I like using applesauce as a salsa for tortilla chips.

Port is a dessert wine. Bit a wine knowledge I picked up from my local wine snob. It will likely never help you.

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Enheldor:

Originally posted by Xautos:

My brother has weird tastes as well, he likes to crumble oxo cubes on tuna. I'm sure he isn't the only one out there with strange tastes. another sterotype it seems, people can eat what they like.

Oxo cubes? What are those? As for strange tastes, I like using applesauce as a salsa for tortilla chips.

Port is a dessert wine. Bit a wine knowledge I picked up from my local wine snob. It will likely never help you.

i'm not here to debate with your what is and isn't im simply pointing out that accents have nothing to do with a place in society.

[Zemecon]

Just saw this:

Originally posted by Frau Blücher:

EDIT: Bart doesn't count, those educational implants, we can note his accent is much different from his father's

If that were the case, why wouldn't he be speaking a more refined form of Mongolian? If the Torgals came from elsewhere, Paul would be sending his son to wherever he thinks would give Bart the best education. That is, assuming the U.K. hadn't split up yet.

Originally posted by Xautos:

I do think these sterotypes need to go away honestly, an accent is an accent.

If any of this is based on real world history then accents can tell you a lot about where someone is from. That is why I find the Torgal accents strange. An ethnic Mongolian family is more likely to teach their children Chinese or Russian than English if they want the children to be educated, unless "Mongolian States" is completely arbitrary now....in which case I feel sorry for the Mongolians.

And then there is Marguerite with her western American accent. Not sure how that is explained.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by Salinité:

And then there is Marguerite with her western American accent. Not sure how that is explained.

she was a mercenary for hire, don't think she cared who she worked for as long as she got paid and got to fight

[Zemecon]

Originally posted by Meewec:

Originally posted by Salinité:

And then there is Marguerite with her western American accent. Not sure how that is explained.

she was a mercenary for hire, don't think she cared who she worked for as long as she got paid and got to fight

Good point.