Can't run Epic Games version without Epic Launcher anymore.

[Max Shadow]

I grabbed the game for free a few days ago. Yesterday I could play it just fine running the exe directly (no need to run it through Epic Launcher). However, it doesn't seem to work anymore. When I try to launch it, it shows the app icon on the task bar for a few seconds and then dissapears. It doesn't even show the game window, it crashes at startup. It only works when running it through Epic Launcher.

The reason I need to run it from the EXE is that I need Steam Controller Support to make it recognize my generic usb controller correctly. It doesn't work when I try to run the exe as a non-steam game. It sucks because I play it on VR, so using a controller is pretty much mandatory.

I start a discussion here because Epic Launcher doesn't seem to have a proper community forum or anything like that yet.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

*Gets free game on epicgames*

*Discusses how they can only use it with the epic launcher*

*Doesnt realise steam version requires steam to run.*

*Maybe should consider buy the game on steam for steam controller support?*

*Or maybe buy a REAL CONTROLLER.....*

[GamingWithSilvertail]

引用自 Sebine：

Protip:

Get rid of Epic Games.



I saved the worst for last. Oh boy what a mess the Epic Games Store is. Tell me, has anyone actually read the TOS? No? Well, we still have a problem. According to even the TOS, Epic Games Store is literal spyware. They're not even trying to hide it. Their TOS states they have the right to monitor you and send the data to their parent company. And who is Epic's parent company? The Chinese dev that's known for spying for the Chinese government. Tencent. The same Tencent who's working hand in hand with the Chinese Government to work on tools to spy on their own citizens. Escentially Epic Games is owned by the Chinese Government. What better way to monitor people than by videogames and a Steam like program people usually never close? The TOS somehow even manages to get worse the more you read it.




"4. User Generated Content​

Any content that you create, generate, or make available through the Epic Games store application shall be “UGC”. You hereby grant to Epic a non-exclusive, fully-paid, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, distribute, prepare derivative works based on, publicly perform, publicly display, make, have made, use, sell, offer to sell, import, and otherwise exploit your UGC for any purposes, for all current and future methods and forms of exploitation in any country. You may not create, generate, or make available any UGC to which you do not have the right to grant Epic such license. In addition, you may not create, generate, or make available any UGC that is illegal or violates or infringes another’s rights, including intellectual property rights or privacy, publicity or moral rights. Epic reserves the right to take down any UGC in its discretion."

Literally says "hey give us the ability to exploit your works". Before you state Steam says the same, let me quote someone here on the difference.

"So basically, Steam's EULA is restricted to content uploaded to Steam, and Valve is only allowed to use the content for the purpose of Steam promotion.

​

Epic's EULA is not restricted at all, may apply even to recordings of games played on the Epic store uploaded on Youtube, and may be used for literally any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing Epic wants to. You could upload a mod for the original Unreal to the Epic Store, and by doing so you'd grant Epic the rights to sell the mod and make money off of your creation. By making a Let's Play of a game hosted on the Epic Store, you'd grant Epic the right to monetize your video. Valve is simply not allowed to do that with their license."

Remember, this is all in the TOS, so that means simply making an account there means you agree to everything. Quite funny how no one is covering this, but instead is covering "Why you should ditch Steam and switch to Epic Games Store, totally not a paid review".

Here's the thing: Subnautica does not fall under the catagory of UGC.

if you make content as a user for subnautica exclusive to the epic platform and publish it thorugh there, it does.

[Max Shadow]

引用自 NaliWarcow：

*Gets free game on epicgames*

*Discusses how they can only use it with the epic launcher*

*Doesnt realise steam version requires steam to run.*

*Maybe should consider buy the game on steam for steam controller support?*

*Or maybe buy a REAL CONTROLLER.....*

Or maybe you could try not to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, my question was already answered by more helpful people. I don't think buying a game I already own for a different platform just to use a generic controller is worth. The game relies on Steam to play on VR, and use Steam Controller, so it makes sense to ask questions here.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

引用自 Max Shadow：

引用自 NaliWarcow：

*Gets free game on epicgames*

*Discusses how they can only use it with the epic launcher*

*Doesnt realise steam version requires steam to run.*

*Maybe should consider buy the game on steam for steam controller support?*

*Or maybe buy a REAL CONTROLLER.....*

Or maybe you could try not to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, my question was already answered by more helpful people. I don't think buying a game I already own for a different platform just to use a generic controller is worth. The game relies on Steam to play on VR, and use Steam Controller, so it makes sense to ask questions here.

Or you could realise that launching the game requires epic games. People shouldnt support 'cracks', sorry.

[Max Shadow]

引用自 NaliWarcow：

引用自 Max Shadow：

Or maybe you could try not to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, my question was already answered by more helpful people. I don't think buying a game I already own for a different platform just to use a generic controller is worth. The game relies on Steam to play on VR, and use Steam Controller, so it makes sense to ask questions here.

Or you could realise that launching the game requires epic games. People shouldnt support 'cracks', sorry.

Cracks? Seriously? If I wanted to crack the game, I would have done it myself, without asking here, but turns out the game was free so there's no point in doing that. The original question was to find an alternative way to use Steam Controller support on a game that was DRM free the first day, and then they broke it with an update.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

引用自 Max Shadow：

引用自 NaliWarcow：

Or you could realise that launching the game requires epic games. People shouldnt support 'cracks', sorry.

Cracks? Seriously? If I wanted to crack the game, I would have done it myself, without asking here, but turns out the game was free so there's no point in doing that. The original question was to find an alternative way to use Steam Controller support on a game that was DRM free the first day, and then they broke it with an update.

Subnautica has never been 'DRM" free. It always required steam as an DRM.

[Gamerfss86]

support the devs and buy the game on steam. issue fixed

these devs deserve the support
(i do not say that lightly)

i will do so when the moneyz comes around for me

[Max Shadow]

Last week I tried to play Totally Reliable Delivery Service with some friends, and I used the same method to make my generic controller compatible with the game (running the game executable as a non-Steam game). For some reason, I could not see my friend's session. I guess the Steam overlay interferes with Epic's online services. If you're trying to play with a generic controller, you have other options to make it be recognized as an XBox controller, like x360ce, or scpToolkit (for Dualshock 3 controllers). That won't work for Steam controller tho (although there is a driver that makes the Steam Controller work system-wide, but it didn't work well last time I tried it).

[Max Shadow]

Why are you trying to play WWZ through steam then? The original post was about making the Steam controller work with Subnautica. I really don't mind using the Epic Launcher if I could use all my controllers without problems. If you just want to avoid using the Epic launcher, then I can't help you.

[elcman]

引用自 alexander-v：

I just figured out how to do this by myself:

- create a shortcut for the game in the epic launcher if you don't have one already
- right-click the shortcut -> select the "Web Document" tab -> copy the URL (in my case: com.epicgames.launcher://apps/Jaguar?action=launch&silent=true)
- open steam
- click "Games" -> "Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library..."
- click "BROWSE..."
- search the exe (in my case: D:\Games\Epic Games\Subnautica\Subnautica.exe)
- click "ADD SELECTED PROGRAMS"
- now right click Subnautica in your Steam library -> select Properties
- in the TARGET field remove the entry and add the URL you copied before instead with "" around it (in my case: "com.epicgames.launcher://apps/Jaguar?action=launch&silent=true")
- click CLOSE and launch the game from Steam

Well freakin' done, this worked for me. Smart handling of deciphering what it was trying to do!

[Tex]

引用自 elcman：

引用自 alexander-v：

I just figured out how to do this by myself:

- create a shortcut for the game in the epic launcher if you don't have one already
- right-click the shortcut -> select the "Web Document" tab -> copy the URL (in my case: com.epicgames.launcher://apps/Jaguar?action=launch&silent=true)
- open steam
- click "Games" -> "Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library..."
- click "BROWSE..."
- search the exe (in my case: D:\Games\Epic Games\Subnautica\Subnautica.exe)
- click "ADD SELECTED PROGRAMS"
- now right click Subnautica in your Steam library -> select Properties
- in the TARGET field remove the entry and add the URL you copied before instead with "" around it (in my case: "com.epicgames.launcher://apps/Jaguar?action=launch&silent=true")
- click CLOSE and launch the game from Steam

Well freakin' done, this worked for me. Smart handling of deciphering what it was trying to do!

This post is from April.

[dragonbornzyra]

引用自 Friendly Neighbourhood Crabsquid：

引用自 elcman：

Well freakin' done, this worked for me. Smart handling of deciphering what it was trying to do!

This post is from April.

What does that statement add or contribute to the discussion? It was from April but still seemed to be useful to another user.
Yes, this post is from April.
What does this do for me or the topic?

[Tex]

引用自 dragonbornzyra：

引用自 Friendly Neighbourhood Crabsquid：

This post is from April.

What does that statement add or contribute to the discussion? It was from April but still seemed to be useful to another user.
Yes, this post is from April.
What does this do for me or the topic?

I don't see what this added to the topic either, other than just congratulating the person that it worked and bumping the thread to the top page.

引用自 elcman：

引用自 alexander-v：

I just figured out how to do this by myself:
- create a shortcut for the game in the epic launcher if you don't have one already
- right-click the shortcut -> select the "Web Document" tab -> copy the URL (in my case: com.epicgames.launcher://apps/Jaguar?action=launch&silent=true)
- open steam
- click "Games" -> "Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library..."
- click "BROWSE..."
- search the exe (in my case: D:\Games\Epic Games\Subnautica\Subnautica.exe)
- click "ADD SELECTED PROGRAMS"
- now right click Subnautica in your Steam library -> select Properties
- in the TARGET field remove the entry and add the URL you copied before instead with "" around it (in my case: "com.epicgames.launcher://apps/Jaguar?action=launch&silent=true")
- click CLOSE and launch the game from Steam

Well freakin' done, this worked for me. Smart handling of deciphering what it was trying to do!

[dragonbornzyra]

引用自 Friendly Neighbourhood Crabsquid：

引用自 dragonbornzyra：

What does that statement add or contribute to the discussion? It was from April but still seemed to be useful to another user.
Yes, this post is from April.
What does this do for me or the topic?

I don't see what this added to the topic either, other than just congratulating the person that it worked and bumping the thread to the top page.

引用自 elcman：

Well freakin' done, this worked for me. Smart handling of deciphering what it was trying to do!

You didn't answer my question? What does stating "This post is from April" contribute?

[Tex]

引用自 dragonbornzyra：

引用自 Friendly Neighbourhood Crabsquid：

I don't see what this added to the topic either, other than just congratulating the person that it worked and bumping the thread to the top page.

You didn't answer my question? What does stating "This post is from April" contribute?

It contributes information.