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Subnautica

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Did the player character ever pay off his debt?
but seriously, did he?
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Първоначално публикувано от Halliwax:
This, along with all the priceless information about alien intelligence and the virus that Ryley can bring back is far more valuable than any rocks he may have picked up.

I like the line at the end of the game, after all the PDA is just doing as it's programmed, but if BZ makes it canon that he's actually in debt and working it off... ehhh... Maybe they can make something funny of it but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense even with the Alterra mindset.

I haven't played BZ yet and am trying to avoid spoilers, but if this is the official explanation for what happend to Ryley, he may have wanted to go back to 4546B, and "working to repay his debt" is just how Alterra's spinning it. I mean, employees probably aren't tripping over each other to go to a planet that's eaten basically every expedition they've sent there, so if Ryley got "Core-era Croft-itis" and realized after a week on earth that he was miserable without his Reaper Leviathan friends Mr. Ketchup and Count Van Noperope and that life on Earth had become empty for him, he may have asked Alterra for a spot on a return mission, and they'd have signed him on the spot. That way, they can paint him in their press releases as Paying Off His Debt like a True Alterran, use his name recognition to perhaps get a few more people to enroll... and, since he knows too much, throw him into a bunch of dangerous situations where he's likely to be killed.

In fact, if they ever wanted a DLC or sequel with Ryley in the lead again, that might be a cool lead-in: his ship yet again crashes, only this time he finds out over the course of the game it was deliberately sabotaged so Alterra could get rid of him and make it look like an accident.
The future society of Subnautica seems like a corporate state, so if Alterra wants him to still be in debt, he probably is.
In keeping with the way Alterra is depicted in the PDAs, I would be surprised if Ryley has anything resembling a pleasant life when he returns to Earth. Part of me thinks the company would just have him killed to cover up knowledge of the alien tech to prevent it from spreading. After all, he was just a low-level maintenance chief; that's hardly someone Alterra would care about.

But even beyond that, and perhaps more reasonably so, Ryley would almost certainly need to quarantine for a while to make sure he wasn't transmitting Kharaa or any other alien pathogen back to Earth. Again, if Alterra has the type of political sway that's hinted, it might just be easier/safer to have Ryley killed or permanently locked away to prevent that from happening. A Kharaa infection on Earth is a potential extinction event.
Последно редактиран от admiral1018; 5 март 2021 в 6:22
He most likely didn't. Anything he brought with him is Alterra's property, since he is still an employee of them, and no one has a trillion credits sitting around.
Първоначално публикувано от admiral1018:
But even beyond that, and perhaps more reasonably so, Ryley would almost certainly need to quarantine for a while to make sure he wasn't transmitting Kharaa or any other alien pathogen back to Earth. Again, if Alterra has the type of political sway that's hinted, it might just be easier/safer to have Ryley killed or permanently locked away to prevent that from happening. A Kharaa infection on Earth is a potential extinction event.
Ryley is the first and only person who can tell Alterra about Kharaa. They might still put him in routine quarantine, of course.

They would not kill him for public health reasons, though. Even if they knew about Kharaa beforehand (in my opinion they didn't) and wanted to prevent an outbreak, sending him the plans for an escape rocket and killing him after his return is more risky than not sending the plans in the first place.
Първоначално публикувано от DragonCurse4:
Probably not, I mean how would he be able to. Unless you the player shoved a whole bunch of Ion Cubes (and Ion Batterys/Power Cells) in the rockets locker before you took off. I'm sure those things have to be a couple billion each at least.

Early in the game when you pickup a ruby or diamond, the PDA tells you that under the terms of your contract, anything valuable you find is legally the property of Altera, not you. doh.
Първоначално публикувано от angisilexpen:
Ryley is the first and only person who can tell Alterra about Kharaa.

Your PDA records and monitors everything you do, seemingly even aware when you pick up a valuable resource to remind you that it's Alterra's property. This data is almost certainly all transmitted to Alterra. So they'll likely know about the contagion and most other things before Ryley ever steps foot on Earth.
His only way out is to get a good lawyer and sue Alterra for negligence.
After the Degasi expedition was lost, Alterra knew that the planet was dangerous, yet they sent a ship there anyway. While Riley cannot keep anything he found or sell any technology, he can negotiate a deal where Alterra forgives his debt and he signs an NDA.
Първоначално публикувано от Coops:
His only way out is to get a good lawyer and sue Alterra for negligence.
After the Degasi expedition was lost, Alterra knew that the planet was dangerous, yet they sent a ship there anyway. While Riley cannot keep anything he found or sell any technology, he can negotiate a deal where Alterra forgives his debt and he signs an NDA.
If they won't let him land until he pays them then they probably won't let him have a lawyer
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Първоначално публикувано от angisilexpen:
Ryley is the first and only person who can tell Alterra about Kharaa.

Your PDA records and monitors everything you do, seemingly even aware when you pick up a valuable resource to remind you that it's Alterra's property. This data is almost certainly all transmitted to Alterra. So they'll likely know about the contagion and most other things before Ryley ever steps foot on Earth.
No, I don't think so. My reasons for assuming that PDAs are, at the best, short-range communicators (short-range meaning less than a kilometer) are these:
  • The Aurora's captain died in an attempt to save enough of the ship because the Aurora was the only way to contact Alterra HQ.
  • It is the radio (not your PDA) that receives messages from other lifepods, and transfers the coordinates to your PDA which will be close by (a few meters, similar to using a wi-fi hotspot in a cafe).
Alterra would not be able to receive communication from your PDA.

EDIT:----------

Sorry, but I have to slightly change my views. The Neptune rocket could establish connection (and send data). I don't recall the exact wording of the message you receive at the end, but it was along the lines of "you will be permitted to land once your outstanding debt with Alterra has been settled".

This means that data about the resources you collected has been transmitted from your PDA to the Neptune rocket, from the rocket to Alterra, and that a reply was sent back to the rocket. So, yes, at that point Alterra could definitely know about the Kharaa.

But if they did know, why would they make the landing permission contingent only on Ryley paying off his debt? Their reply does not say anything about "and once you have spent a suitable quarantine time in orbit". He could be carrying a deadly contagious plague, and they still allow him to land provided he settles his debt with them? That still seems unlikely.
Последно редактиран от Arondil; 6 март 2021 в 12:35
That's why I never left the planet. I mean who wants that burden on top of my student loans. Now the word among the Peepers is that I should stay because there are at least two other female humans on the planet! The Peepers say I should just head towards the cold side. But I don't know...from what they say one of them is really scary, and the other one keeps changing. I just don't know what to do.
Arguing with a fictional and probably evil megacorporation is rather pointless, but hey, it's fun so...
I'd argue that if Ryley is still operating under contract with Alterra, then he's still *working for* Alterra on the planet. He's not claiming sole possession of anything he finds, he's using it to continue the mission, including single-handedly completing the secondary objective of finding (the fate of) the Degasi expedition. I don't pay employer for the materials I consume while on the job, why should Ryley?
Also, he's a non-essential maintenance tech; pretty much none of what he's doing is in his job description once the Aurora crashed so either he deserves a massive bonus and retroactive promotion and raise, or he was constructively dismissed.
Последно редактиран от NecessaryWeevil; 6 март 2021 в 14:23
Първоначално публикувано от Forinja:
They probably shot him out of the sky like the Sunbeam because he just couldn't pay the 1 trillion credits.
Dude... are you joking or being serious... HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED SUBNAUTICA!??
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Първоначално публикувано от Forinja:
They probably shot him out of the sky like the Sunbeam because he just couldn't pay the 1 trillion credits.
Dude... are you joking or being serious... HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED SUBNAUTICA!??
He meant Alterra, not the cannon
"I knew it! I knew PTMC would find a way to cheat me!" - Material Defender, Descent II

All big corporations in sci-fi games are... shady in the best case.
Weyland Yutani in AvP is the worst, as their "non-essential" personnel will be turned into alien hosts. :O


I think Alterra isn't much better, so Ryley may be doomed or working for them all life long freely (well only for rations provided by the company).
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