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maestro Dec 6, 2016 @ 4:07pm
How does prawn suit do vs leviathans?
I still need one more cyclops fragment. I am ready to make a prawn suit tho now. I'd like to check out that area just outside the Aurora but I was wondering those the suit does against levis cuz that area is infested witht them.
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OatBran Dec 6, 2016 @ 4:14pm 
It can be grabbed just like the Seamoth, but it does take less damage than the Seamoth. If you have the grapple arm for it you might be able to outrun it or grapple onto its neck to evade getting grabbed, but outside of that the prawn is too slow to get away.
Zades Dec 6, 2016 @ 4:16pm 
On the other hand, if it gets close to you, the drill arm does more damage than the acid torpedos.
maestro Dec 6, 2016 @ 4:42pm 
So with regular prawn fists how much does it take to kill one? I've watch YT vids of people trying but they always glitch out and sink to their deaths and lose the suit too. I'm assuming its because the reapers have a habit of swimming into the terrain.
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OatBran Dec 6, 2016 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by Maestro4202:
So with regular prawn fists how much does it take to kill one? I've watch YT vids of people trying but they always glitch out and sink to their deaths and lose the suit too. I'm assuming its because the reapers have a habit of swimming into the terrain.
I'm pretty sure it takes a while with default arms. Probably takes a while no matter what. Check out this vid, it might give you a good idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVAsTfatYmg
or0b0ur0s Dec 6, 2016 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by OatBran:
Originally posted by Maestro4202:
So with regular prawn fists how much does it take to kill one? I've watch YT vids of people trying but they always glitch out and sink to their deaths and lose the suit too. I'm assuming its because the reapers have a habit of swimming into the terrain.
I'm pretty sure it takes a while with default arms. Probably takes a while no matter what. Check out this vid, it might give you a good idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVAsTfatYmg

Yep, all Reaper vs PRAWN videos I've seen end one of three ways:

Most commonly, the suit is dragged or knocked under or over the edge of the world and unavoidably lost, usually with the death of the pilot either below crush depth, due to lack of O2, or snapped up by the Reaper upon bailing out.

Almost as often, the Reaper grabs the suit and does enough damage over several grapples to destroy it. A key factor seems to be that punches and drilling do NOT do damage to the Reaper's face while you are grappled; it's face is apparently utterly invulnerable, which is highly annoying and unfair. Quite often, you'll see a video where this happens to the 1st suit, and the owner builds a second one to try to finish the Reaper off, only to be pitched off or below the world.

Lastly, sometimes the Reaper is having an off day and doesn't grapple much, but the PRAWN can't land enough hits to kill the thing in anything like a reasonable time due to the huge disparity in maneuverability and the Reaper's unfairly tiny hitbox, and the player gets bored. They attempt to leave, only to have the (still angry) Reaper follow them home in their slow-ass PRAWN, to re-leash and live forever in the Shallows by their Moonpool as a massive annoyance.

Note that none of these involve the death of the Reaper. I have yet to see video proof of a Reaper kill with a PRAWN that didn't involve the loss of at least 2 suits, if not more. Even then I've seen very few multi-suit fights that killed it at all. I can honestly only remember one. Few players want to go to that kind of trouble and/or use the Console freely to cheat in suits but still fight the critters normally.

While it's better protected than the Seamoth, the PRAWN at the moment is the LAST thing you want to be driving when you encounter the Reaper. You can't kill it, you can't get away, and it can still kill you. Until the terrain clipping bugs and the "invulnerable face" issue are addressed, PRAWNS still don't solve the Reaper problem, unfortunately.
maestro Dec 6, 2016 @ 7:18pm 
I wonder if you could use stasis rifle get in suit punch it in the ass a few times rinse repeat?
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fusslon Dec 8, 2016 @ 1:36pm 
Throw the PRAWN in its face!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=810209825

I'm joking, of course. I quit that PRAWN and got the f♥ out of there. That was the end of my first PRAWN suit. He carried it with him for a while and then bit it to smithereens.
Last edited by fusslon; Dec 8, 2016 @ 1:41pm
darkcipher Oct 11, 2017 @ 11:56am 
congrades

kwong20287 Oct 11, 2017 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by darkcipher:
congrades
Well, that is a necro.
hazzerj Feb 8, 2019 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by or0b0ur0s:

Yep, all Reaper vs PRAWN videos I've seen end one of three ways:

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While it's better protected than the Seamoth, the PRAWN at the moment is the LAST thing you want to be driving when you encounter the Reaper. You can't kill it, you can't get away, and it can still kill you. Until the terrain clipping bugs and the "invulnerable face" issue are addressed, PRAWNS still don't solve the Reaper problem, unfortunately.

You are a legend, there's nothing like going looking for answers on a forum and having someone answer it thoroughly with examples!

I first met the Reaper (before I even knew it existed) whilst joyfully swimming around the wreck behind the Aurora. I was having a lovely time when it snuck up behind me, flipped me around and ripped my face off. I'm a grown man who loves a good horror game and all I dreamt of was sharks stalking me in the deep that night. So assuming it was a small, very nasty shark, I didn't go near the wreck again until I had a Seamoth. I then went timidly into the darkness with my newfound confidence and nearly cried when a fifty foot behemoth bolted out of the darkness and took me down to 20+ as I sped off home to lick my wounds. I tried once more under the cover of darkness to comb the seabed and as I was hiding on the bottom, "distraction beacon" (bloody useless) already placed a good 100 meters away, it still hunted me down and nearly killed me.

So now I have a PRAWN suit. Like the curious cat with a death wish, all I want to do was comb that spot for blueprints. People keep saying entirely stupid things like "avoid it", yet I can't see more than 20 meters through the gloom and this thing circles the entire area and hunts me down amidst screams of terror wherever I am.

So, it now sounds like my grand plan of stomping over there in my newly built PRAWN suit would have ultimately given me the scariest experience of the game so far. I can happily say screw that, that is an experience in this game I am more than happy to skip thank you very much. I love a bit of tension but come on, I want to actually sleep after playing this game!

So thank you again (all I want to do is build bases and swim around, but damn it I can't help pushing my luck ... I guess that is the charm/genius of the game).
PlasticFrog Aug 21, 2019 @ 1:56pm 
Yeah, it's possible...took two suits, drill and grapple. In the end I got so frustrated I hacked at it with my knife...and KILLED the sucker!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1841608457
CoreB Sep 2, 2020 @ 7:35am 
I know it‘s been ages, but in case anyone still reads this, Prawn vs Reaper is a thing now. I just killed one, and it took abt ten minutes. I grappled to it face and punched it (I read somewhere that the standard arm does more dps than the drill). He grabbed me like four or five times, so I had to let go once and repair the suit, but that was it (I only used one upgrade to strengthen my suit‘s hull). Damn beastie dragged me all through the shallows, but I can now confirm that he isn‘t invulnerable anymore while grabbing you (either that, or my punches were even stronger than I thought).
Regarding the getting-dragged-and-dangling-behind, I found that using your boost while holding on to his face brings you close quickly. Ofc this bears the risk of getting grabbed quickly, but using the boost and movement I sometimes managed to avoid even that until he gave up for the time being and swam straight for a little while.
admiral1018 Sep 2, 2020 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by MCBmaestro:
I wonder if you could use stasis rifle get in suit punch it in the ass a few times rinse repeat?

You can, but at that point it's faster to just use the thermal knife. Ghost and Reaper Leviathans can be reliably killed in about 2-3 minutes using that approach. Any method using the PRAWN is less reliable and often more time consuming.
Emu Sep 2, 2020 @ 9:34am 
prawn suit in general is not amazing at taking on leviathins
i mean
its prolly possible
but its easier to stasis a guy
and knife it to death
admiral1018 Sep 2, 2020 @ 10:12am 
The only time I'd recommend a PRAWN suit for Leviathan combat is against Sea Dragons on Hardcore mode. For one, Sea Dragons are the only enemy in the game capable of killing a diver at full health in a reinforced suit in one hit, so that's an instant loss of a hardcore run and ~20 hours down the drain. And, second, the thermal knife does not hurt Sea Dragons. So, you'd have use the survival knife, which takes twice as many hits. At that point, it's not nearly as big of a time saver.

Of course, the best way to deal with Sea Dragons on hardcore is to avoid them. If killing them all is a priority and you have time to plan, the stasis + couple dozen acid pod method is the easiest and fastest way to kill one. And it's not too impractical if you load up the Cyclops lockers given how few Sea Dragons there are in the game.
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