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Storm0267 2017 年 5 月 31 日 上午 6:24
Switch port one day? crappy comp
I hope to one day play this on my switch. I got the game but turns out my comp is crap for this game. lots of lag so I dont bother trying to play. I got enough info on the title screen
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Big Smork 2017 年 5 月 31 日 上午 7:01 
It might be possible. Probably once fully optimized it would have an average 30 fps simillar to BOTW
redeyedraven 2017 年 5 月 31 日 上午 7:03 
Making ports depends on how easy the devs can get and work with the development kit of the console-manufacturer.

I remember the WiiU being problematic because Nintendo wanted a lot more money for the devkit and the WiiU was difficult to work with in the first place.

I hope Nintendo make it easier with the Switch.
最後修改者:redeyedraven; 2017 年 5 月 31 日 上午 7:03
Storm0267 2017 年 5 月 31 日 上午 10:28 
I heard they made it easier for the switch. I came to my comp and saw this game running this morning. the ocean was made up of sqares. lots of lag. so I did not bother. asked for a refund so I can try one of the other games that might work on my comp.
redeyedraven 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 Storm0267
I heard they made it easier for the switch. I came to my comp and saw this game running this morning. the ocean was made up of sqares. lots of lag. so I did not bother. asked for a refund so I can try one of the other games that might work on my comp.

The lag and slow in-between loading actually happens on many high-end as well.

It's a problem with the game not being optimized yet which will happen in the next months.

About the water looking like squares I could only guess, and my guess is your GPU is either using very outdated drivers or you're running on something like an integrated GPU.
Storm0267 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 3:24 
I think it is intergreted. my mom got the comp. tried loading a creative world to test the game. so far still loading. been 10 min now. still loading. how long should it take to load if I met the min requirements? after 700 sec. it just started loading the world. then well stopped responding for a bit. now over 800 sec loading total. at entity cells now as of 900 sec. took over 1000 sec to load and I got the please upgrade system warning. and like 1 frame every 2 sec. cant play well. too much lag. bummer. really wanted this game after watching videos of this game. oh well. if my refund request is accepted. ill just get this game again after I hopefully eventually get a far better comp.
最後修改者:Storm0267; 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 3:51
Ancient 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 4:11 
It sounds like your iGPU is maybe too old if you're getting funky graphics and an upgrade warning. You may just not meet the min specs.

If you go to Help > System Information in Steam, it'll give you a list of your basic specs you can copy/paste into a post.
Storm0267 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 4:27 
omputer Information:
Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
Model: 20-b013w
Form Factor: Desktop
No Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: AuthenticAMD
CPU Brand: AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
CPU Family: 0x14
CPU Model: 0x2
CPU Stepping: 0x0
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 1397 Mhz
2 logical processors
2 physical processors
HyperThreading: Unsupported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Supported
SSE41: Unsupported
SSE42: Unsupported
AES: Unsupported
AVX: Unsupported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Supported

Network Information:
Network Speed:

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics

DirectX Driver Name: aticfx32.dll
Driver Version: 15.201.1151.0
DirectX Driver Version: 8.17.10.1404
Driver Date: 21 Aug 2015
OpenGL Version: 4.5
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
VendorID: 0x1002
DeviceID: 0x9809
Revision Not Detected
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1600 x 900
Desktop Resolution: 1600 x 900
Primary Display Size: 17.44" x 9.80" (20.00" diag)
44.3cm x 24.9cm (50.8cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 384 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x

Sound card:
Audio device: Speakers (Realtek High Definiti

Memory:
RAM: 3667 Mb

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Microphone: Not set
Steam Controller Cable and Base: Not set
Media Type: DVD
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 474977 Mb
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 279313 Mb
OS Install Date: Dec 31 1969
Game Controller: None detected
VR Headset: None detected

Ancient 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 5:14 
Yeah the GPU is really bad unfortunately. It's many times less powerful than the min spec Intel HD 4600: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-HD-4600-Desktop-125-GHz-vs-AMD-Radeon-HD-7310/2168vsm9174

Compounding the problem though, is AMD abandoned all those older GPUs when they moved to their new GCN architecture back in 2015[wccftech.com]. So there haven't been any driver updates for them since July, 2015 and a beta Crimson driver in March, 2016 was the last driver available:

AMD Radeon™ R5 235X, Radeon™ R5 235, Radeon™ R5 230, Radeon™ R5 220, Radeon™​ HD 8470, Radeon™ HD 8350, Radeon™ HD 8000 (​D/G variants), Radeon™ HD 7000 Series (HD 7600 and below), Radeon™ HD 6000 Series, and Radeon™ HD 5000 Series Graphics products have been moved to a legacy support model and no additional driver releases are planned. This change enables us to dedicate valuable engineering resources to developing new features and enhancements for graphics products based on the​ GCN Architect​ure.
- Source[support.amd.com]

For new games, driver support is pretty important, so a GPU being moved to legacy status means it effectively has been left to rot, in an "as is" condition. It may work fine for older games of course, but it's technically not supported by AMD anymore and so it would be hard for developers to support it either.

If it's any consolation, i have an i7-4700HQ, 8GB, Intel HD 4600 laptop and the game does run but it's barely even playable. 15-25 FPS on low 1024x768. The frame rate is abysmal. It would be roughly 4x worse on yours (if you could get it to run).

I think you had the right idea. I'd refund and get this again later on when you have a nice gaming PC so you can enjoy the visuals.

As far as the Switch port... I wouldn't count on a Switch port either. The XBOne version looks and runs like crap compared to PC. Switch just isn't close to powerful enough a machine to compete with the PS4/XBO hardware updates that Subnautica is going to need to even run on those consoles. On the base XBO, the game is already straining the console just to keep FPS above 20.
Storm0267 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 5:29 
ok thanks for the info and honesty. if I cant move around fine. I could care less about playing. wonder how much a good comp would cost?
最後修改者:Storm0267; 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 5:29
Ancient 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 5:52 
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/hc7Ycf/entry-level-gaming-build

Something like that is passable for medium/high and 1080p in most games today. But you'd also still need to build it, buy an OS license and install it on the SSD, buy a 1080p Monitor/TV, keyboard and mouse (or reuse your HP ones) at a minimum.

Here's that build with a budget acer 1080p/60Hz monitor and Windows 10 Home 64-bit: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MVphNN

So around $750 if you're in the US.
Storm0267 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 9:36 
cool thanks! Ill see what i can do.I hope to be above the min specs for all sorts of stuff im interested in. quad core would be nice since thats all over the place., and high end graphic card too. lag sucks. im crappy at building stuff without detaild instructions. and well I dont have a welder or anything either.
最後修改者:Storm0267; 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 9:43
redeyedraven 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 10:17 
引用自 Storm0267
cool thanks! Ill see what i can do.I hope to be above the min specs for all sorts of stuff im interested in. quad core would be nice since thats all over the place., and high end graphic card too. lag sucks. im crappy at building stuff without detaild instructions. and well I dont have a welder or anything either.


To be honest, you don't really need a high-end graphics-card. A quad-core CPU (i7 or AMD Ryzen) and a medium-range GPU (like GTX 960 for example) are already pretty decent.


Even my i5 and GTX 750 can still play pretty much anything that's being thrown on the market now, just not always with maxed settings of course.
最後修改者:redeyedraven; 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 10:22
Archmage MC 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 10:27 
If this is in Unity, then they might be able to port it if they turn the specs down.
Storm0267 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 11:07 
so any comps u recommend? I hate laptops. I ruined one with milk on the keyboard before. and wont a quad core be better? anyone have links to a better comp build? assuming its cheaper than buying a already made comp? im willing to spend a grand maybe more. thats what saving is for.
最後修改者:Storm0267; 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 11:16
redeyedraven 2017 年 5 月 31 日 下午 11:52 
引用自 Storm0267
so any comps u recommend? I hate laptops. I ruined one with milk on the keyboard before. and wont a quad core be better? anyone have links to a better comp build? assuming its cheaper than buying a already made comp? im willing to spend a grand maybe more. thats what saving is for.


For CPU's, you might want to check the new line of AMD-CPU's, Ryzen. According to most current benchmarks they're decent and not *that* expensive - it's been a while since AMD could compete with Intel.

You need to choose a mainboard according to what CPU and what GPU you plan to use.

For RAM, make sure you have at least 8 GB.

For GPU's, if you're really into gaming and maxing out settings it can get really expensive.
I can't help you much with AMD-cards, never had any of those; I always went with NVidia.

Good cards in the GTX-lineup would be 780, 880, 980, 1080.

Decent cards are 770, 870, 960, 970.

Note that the performance of cards with the same chipset can still vary depending on the manufacturer (like Zotac).
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