Ban and game modding questions

[Algomi]

Wait how does the ban works? is it ban to even run the game or to multiplayer?
I have modded my game and exploited the skills but I play alone. I really don't care loosing access to Multi(since was not going to use it). but loosing single player access it other legal issue, and the game should be tag as online multiplayer only.

[KondaBuddy (Live)]

You got banned and lost all access?

[Algomi]

Originally posted by KondaBuddy (Live):

You got banned and lost all access?

no, I saw the notice and read it, but it states nothing about single players. so i'm asking, since regardless of what happens. it not a loss at all, I rarely have time to play so i can always play something else.

[KondaBuddy (Live)]

I dont think it should effect single player I hope it doesnt

[Algomi]

Originally posted by Panic:

No solo / Single player affected. There would be riots if this was the case

Yes and could been consider false advertisement. The main reason for me asking is the "exploiting" part since that can be consider part of the game play until the Devs removes it.
which is wild, that you can get banned for that.

[Gao]

Originally posted by Algomi:

Originally posted by Panic:

No solo / Single player affected. There would be riots if this was the case

Yes and could been consider false advertisement. The main reason for me asking is the "exploiting" part since that can be consider part of the game play until the Devs removes it.
which is wild, that you can get banned for that.

Everything concerning banning only affects the official servers.
In your solo game or your own private server you can do what you want, this has no effect on whether you will be banned.
You will also not be restricted in solo play if you are banned.
However, it is possible that the owner of a private server will report you if you mess up there.
This could lead to you being banned on the official servers as well.

[Algomi]

Originally posted by Gao:

Originally posted by Algomi:

Yes and could been consider false advertisement. The main reason for me asking is the "exploiting" part since that can be consider part of the game play until the Devs removes it.
which is wild, that you can get banned for that.

Everything concerning banning only affects the official servers.
In your solo game or your own private server you can do what you want, this has no effect on whether you will be banned.
You will also not be restricted in solo play if you are banned.
However, it is possible that the owner of a private server will report you if you mess up there.
This could lead to you being banned on the official servers as well.

Thanks for clarifying,not on any private server just playing solo. unless single playing makes a private server, which would mean i'm the owner I guess .(I'm 30 and a dinosaur to this server games)

[Renascitur]

Originally posted by Gao:

Originally posted by Algomi:

Yes and could been consider false advertisement. The main reason for me asking is the "exploiting" part since that can be consider part of the game play until the Devs removes it.
which is wild, that you can get banned for that.

Everything concerning banning only affects the official servers.
In your solo game or your own private server you can do what you want, this has no effect on whether you will be banned.
You will also not be restricted in solo play if you are banned.
However, it is possible that the owner of a private server will report you if you mess up there.
This could lead to you being banned on the official servers as well.

Would like to hear the Devs say this.

[Gao]

Originally posted by Baptiste:

Originally posted by Gao:

Everything concerning banning only affects the official servers.
In your solo game or your own private server you can do what you want, this has no effect on whether you will be banned.
You will also not be restricted in solo play if you are banned.
However, it is possible that the owner of a private server will report you if you mess up there.
This could lead to you being banned on the official servers as well.

Would like to hear the Devs say this.

Got my informations from Discord and from this notice:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2646460/announcements/detail/4374768959777362633
"take measures accordingly only to official servers"

Only the the last part with the private servers is wrong.
Missread something in the early morning xD

[vexille.g]

Originally posted by Algomi:

Originally posted by Panic:

No solo / Single player affected. There would be riots if this was the case

Yes and could been consider false advertisement. The main reason for me asking is the "exploiting" part since that can be consider part of the game play until the Devs removes it.
which is wild, that you can get banned for that.

It would be wild if games like this did not ban for exploiting. As a tester playing an EA game, its your responsibility to report bugs. Not to exploit them for PVP.

Don't know about this game but never heard of players receiving general bans for stuff they do on private servers. It's server admin responsibility to act on private servers and ban the player. General bans should only be on official servers, since its the company running the game responsible for official.

[Murp]

I'm running a private server and the anti-cheat software doesn't ask to be installed.

"Upgraded anti-cheat system: Enhanced the detection of cheat codes (For fair competition, please allow the installation of GameSecurityService when you first enter the official server)"

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2646460/view/4247539099342983657?l=english

They further state that if you run into issues on private servers to take it up with the admin running it so I would say you're pretty safe.

[Algomi]

Originally posted by vexille.g:

Originally posted by Algomi:

Yes and could been consider false advertisement. The main reason for me asking is the "exploiting" part since that can be consider part of the game play until the Devs removes it.
which is wild, that you can get banned for that.

It would be wild if games like this did not ban for exploiting. As a tester playing an EA game, its your responsibility to report bugs. Not to exploit them for PVP.

Don't know about this game but never heard of players receiving general bans for stuff they do on private servers. It's server admin responsibility to act on private servers and ban the player. General bans should only be on official servers, since its the company running the game responsible for official.

That is true to a MMO game or an online only game. regardless even on MMOs when there are exploits, the Devs can removed the exploited items or roll back. also it is not the player's job to do the game dev's job.

[RiChuF]

"Our operation team will vet these illegal behaviors and take measures accordingly only to OFFICIAL SERVERS "
from dev post
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2646460/announcements/detail/4374768959777362633


just noticed someone else posted the same thing :D

[Raingnyu]

Originally posted by vexille.g:

Originally posted by Algomi:

Yes and could been consider false advertisement. The main reason for me asking is the "exploiting" part since that can be consider part of the game play until the Devs removes it.
which is wild, that you can get banned for that.

It would be wild if games like this did not ban for exploiting. As a tester playing an EA game, its your responsibility to report bugs. Not to exploit them for PVP.

Don't know about this game but never heard of players receiving general bans for stuff they do on private servers. It's server admin responsibility to act on private servers and ban the player. General bans should only be on official servers, since its the company running the game responsible for official.

IT'S their game and they just allow excess to play it. They have the right to remove that access as if they can prove unfair game play regardless if it is single or multi-player. Game guard won't know the difference. Unless you can go to the store and pull the game off the selves and buy it on dis your access is not guaranteed.

Gate keeping clause in the court of law.

[Algomi]

Originally posted by Raingnyu:

Originally posted by vexille.g:

It would be wild if games like this did not ban for exploiting. As a tester playing an EA game, its your responsibility to report bugs. Not to exploit them for PVP.

Don't know about this game but never heard of players receiving general bans for stuff they do on private servers. It's server admin responsibility to act on private servers and ban the player. General bans should only be on official servers, since its the company running the game responsible for official.

IT'S their game and they just allow excess to play it. They have the right to remove that access as if they can prove unfair game play regardless if it is single or multi-player. Game guard won't know the difference. Unless you can go to the store and pull the game off the selves and buy it on dis your access is not guaranteed.

Gate keeping clause in the court of law.

It is my god's right to sue as an american, after all the minimum amount to sue it $20.
( its a joke don't take it serious) I mean unless there are at least 20+ people coming together to sue XD

[vexille.g]

If someone got banned for hacking in single player mode, they would have a story to tell their grandkids.

This game is new, so probably very few bans. But from what I've seen on Conan Exiles and Scum, its extremely rare to get a ban from the company behind the game rather than the anticheat software.

Regarding official servers. Not private that have their own admins.

Probably 95% of cases of bans are automated easy anti cheat. In most of those cases the player is not actually hacking in the game they are playing. They installed a hack for a game like World Of Tanks which is not even on steam or uses easy anti cheat. But a bit like anti-virus that deletes pirated stuff, it just works off a big list of suspicious programs.

Someone I knew once got banned for macroing in a game which it was not allowed in, despite actually macroing in a different game he was playing in the background where it was allowed. Eventually the ban got lifted, but took about 3 months.