Gimp of a main character

[Saint]

Since the main character is less capable then any other warrior on the map, or nearly so, then please allow us to get rid of them. Treat the main character you start with like any other warrior in your tribe so that after I switch to another better warrior, I can dismiss the gimp I started with, who just sits there sulking anyway.

PLEASE, if you insist on making our main character a peon and claim that we are in fact the mask, not that peon, then let me dispose of the useless starting character.

I would stop complaining about it if you did that. ;)

[DiViOS]

I just want one person to tell me how giving the player character the same proficiency limitations as random recruits, would break.. hell how would even change the game?

[Steinaar]

引用自 DiViOS：

I just want one person to tell me how giving the player character the same proficiency limitations as random recruits, would break.. hell how would even change the game?

Conan did it and most of their player base stopped playing when they nerf NPC and made character the main dude.

If character goes to 130 max there will be no need for any NPC ever.

[DiViOS]

引用自 Steinaar：

引用自 DiViOS：

I just want one person to tell me how giving the player character the same proficiency limitations as random recruits, would break.. hell how would even change the game?

Conan did it and most of their player base stopped playing when they nerf NPC and made character the main dude.

If character goes to 130 max there will be no need for any NPC ever.

Not a valid argument.
1) The player can play as an NPC that has max limitations. In conan you cant play as a thrall. Edit: let me be more specific, If PC=NPC, then playing either one gives you no benefit or loss.
2) Playing the PC only and maxing out all the skills, is actually a poor way to play the game because you aren't being efficient with your time. Having a tribe with diversified skills allows you to get more done at the same time. Conan doesn't have NPC crafting or automation.

[Danyel]

引用自 Steinaar：

引用自 DiViOS：

I just want one person to tell me how giving the player character the same proficiency limitations as random recruits, would break.. hell how would even change the game?

Conan did it and most of their player base stopped playing when they nerf NPC and made character the main dude.

If character goes to 130 max there will be no need for any NPC ever.

Not really, the npc in this game can be issued tasks you don't like or want to do like maintain your base, maintain your bonfire so it dosn't run out of fuel, set one npc to take charge of a crafting station etc etc.

Thus you can go do other things rather than stand in front of the furnace making 200 ingots etc.

[Steinaar]

引用自 DiViOS：

引用自 Steinaar：

Conan did it and most of their player base stopped playing when they nerf NPC and made character the main dude.

If character goes to 130 max there will be no need for any NPC ever.

Not a valid argument.
1) The player can play as an NPC that has max limitations. In conan you cant play as a thrall. Edit: let me be more specific, If PC=NPC, then playing either one gives you no benefit or loss.
2) Playing the PC only and maxing out all the skills, is actually a poor way to play the game because you aren't being efficient with your time. Having a tribe with diversified skills allows you to get more done at the same time. Conan doesn't have NPC crafting or automation.

引用自 Danyel：

引用自 Steinaar：

Conan did it and most of their player base stopped playing when they nerf NPC and made character the main dude.

If character goes to 130 max there will be no need for any NPC ever.

Not really, the npc in this game can be issued tasks you don't like or want to do like maintain your base, maintain your bonfire so it dosn't run out of fuel, set one npc to take charge of a crafting station etc etc.

Thus you can go do other things rather than stand in front of the furnace making 200 ingots etc.

Ohh no but what you guys think is gospel. Go fly a kite. What I think is only what matters. Game is terribad negative reviewing and uninstalling

[DiViOS]

引用自 Steinaar：

引用自 DiViOS：

Not a valid argument.
1) The player can play as an NPC that has max limitations. In conan you cant play as a thrall. Edit: let me be more specific, If PC=NPC, then playing either one gives you no benefit or loss.
2) Playing the PC only and maxing out all the skills, is actually a poor way to play the game because you aren't being efficient with your time. Having a tribe with diversified skills allows you to get more done at the same time. Conan doesn't have NPC crafting or automation.

引用自 Danyel：

Not really, the npc in this game can be issued tasks you don't like or want to do like maintain your base, maintain your bonfire so it dosn't run out of fuel, set one npc to take charge of a crafting station etc etc.

Thus you can go do other things rather than stand in front of the furnace making 200 ingots etc.

Ohh no but what you guys think is gospel. Go fly a kite. What I think is only what matters. Game is terribad negative reviewing and uninstalling

This isn't opinion here. This is facts my friend. Your example doesn't apply because the games don't play the same way. Sorry to offend your fragile ego.

[MarkFranz]

引用自 Steinaar：

引用自 DiViOS：

I just want one person to tell me how giving the player character the same proficiency limitations as random recruits, would break.. hell how would even change the game?

Conan did it and most of their player base stopped playing when they nerf NPC and made character the main dude.

If character goes to 130 max there will be no need for any NPC ever.

What the hell are you talking about? I played Conan exile sinse it's get on Early Access and from very beggining player character was king. You could do everything on your own, and i did, exept for some unique craft receipts which requiere particular tralls.

Your post either show you missinformed or you outright lie.

[Steinaar]

引用自 hardbrocklife：

You know, Im REALLY tired of the Dinosaurs in Ark.

Like sure, I get thats what the game was designed around, is the premise for the story, and what was promoted when it was sold, but there are lots of people who play Ark that dont like Dinosaurs. I think I should be able to do everything the Dinosaurs can do. I shouldnt need Dinosaurs to fight the bosses. I shouldnt need Dinosaurs to harvest materials. I shouldnt need a Dinosaur to swim infinitely beneath the ocean. I should be able to do all those things, and I think Wildcard should change the pretense of the game to be about me, not dinosaurs.

Poet over here. Take my points

[MarkFranz]

引用自 hardbrocklife：

You know, Im REALLY tired of the Dinosaurs in Ark.

Like sure, I get thats what the game was designed around, is the premise for the story, and what was promoted when it was sold, but there are lots of people who play Ark that dont like Dinosaurs. I think I should be able to do everything the Dinosaurs can do. I shouldnt need Dinosaurs to fight the bosses. I shouldnt need Dinosaurs to harvest materials. I shouldnt need a Dinosaur to swim infinitely beneath the ocean. I should be able to do all those things, and I think Wildcard should change the pretense of the game to be about me, not dinosaurs.

That's one hell of a strawmen.

[Zalzany]

引用自 DiViOS：

引用自 Steinaar：

I'm going to join the stupidity and toxic nature of these trolls. Since the developers want to cater to them, let's be super absurd and make the game something it never was. Let's get really creative and force a yellow grainy hue you can't get rid of on screen during play. People complaining non stop and just for the sake of trolling is getting out of hand. The devs are even catering to this crowd too but alas it's never enough. Can't beat em than join em. Just careful what you wish for. It's literally out of hand.

Lets be super facetious and pretend that players asking for a better PC is a major request that would have game breaking effects for everyone.

Let sit here and pretend its not changing the games core design and selling out becuase you couldn't pay attention to all the money they dumped into marketing saying you need to swap who wears the mask to be better at certain things. Like it was huge selling point I don't respec every time I want change up tactics I just swap from guy good with bow to guy good with a greatsword for instance lol

Its like going up to an artist and going "I like you art now dump some white-out on this part and re paint. Yeah I already bought it but I am gonna complain all over the internet like its your fault I bought it! God I am just asking you to change one thing that changes the whole image jeeze I paid you money for one thing now make it another similar thing! OH and make sure you change all others too every painting of this you sold, and haven't sold!"

What you guys want is a mod, but don't want wait for mods to come later lol

[DiViOS]

引用自 Steinaar：

引用自 hardbrocklife：

You know, Im REALLY tired of the Dinosaurs in Ark.

Like sure, I get thats what the game was designed around, is the premise for the story, and what was promoted when it was sold, but there are lots of people who play Ark that dont like Dinosaurs. I think I should be able to do everything the Dinosaurs can do. I shouldnt need Dinosaurs to fight the bosses. I shouldnt need Dinosaurs to harvest materials. I shouldnt need a Dinosaur to swim infinitely beneath the ocean. I should be able to do all those things, and I think Wildcard should change the pretense of the game to be about me, not dinosaurs.

Poet over here. Take my points

Expected nothing less, trolls patting other trolls backs for stupid whacko analogies to games that have completely different mechanics as if it validates their baseless argument.

Still waiting for one of you to explain how this would break the game. But you won't because you can't. Hell even the developers can't come up with a legitimate reason other than, "because the mask!".

[falkon311]

Controlling other characters with better skills is the very core of the game, I don't see it changing nor do I think it should. You can eventually unlock skill level 60 (maybe 70?) so your initial character does get another set of Mastery skills.

Beyond that, the whole concept is controlling other folks that can do the job better. Plus the 120 cap is random so... do you want the initial character to have 120+ in every skill?? That's unrealistic imo.

Hmm, maybe they could allow one weapon skill and one or 2 craft/gather skills to max at 120 so then it's actually not completely useless (because I agree that it is, quite quickly).

At the very least, they shouldn't just sit with their heads in their hands somewhere. They need a throne or some Sleeping Beauty type bed or something to "reside" in/on while the mask is controlling others, to signify some importance (only one who can respawn).

[DiViOS]

引用自 Zalzany：

Its like going up to an artist and going "I like you art now dump some white-out on this part and re paint. Yeah I already bought it but I am gonna complain all over the internet like its your fault I bought it! God I am just asking you to change one thing that changes the whole image jeeze I paid you money for one thing now make it another similar thing!"

Actually..... this happens ALL the damned time to artist in the industry (not specifically white out). I won't begin to tell you why I know this, but suffice it to say, this thread has been entertaining and also sad... sad for humanity

[suprpiwi]

引用自 falkon311：

Controlling other characters with better skills is the very core of the game, I don't see it changing nor do I think it should. You can eventually unlock skill level 60 (maybe 70?) so your initial character does get another set of Mastery skills.

Beyond that, the whole concept is controlling other folks that can do the job better. Plus the 120 cap is random so... do you want the initial character to have 120+ in every skill?? That's unrealistic imo.

Hmm, maybe they could allow one weapon skill and one or 2 craft/gather skills to max at 120 so then it's actually not completely useless (because I agree that it is, quite quickly).

At the very least, they shouldn't just sit with their heads in their hands somewhere. They need a throne or some Sleeping Beauty type bed or something to "reside" in/on while the mask is controlling others, to signify some importance (only one who can respawn).

nope, you recruit em, if this is a souls like you prove em wrong, outperform em over time and ensure tribes people work beneath you, the mask seeing things you don't

[suprpiwi]

just allow point investment in every skill lol.