Gimp of a main character

[Saint]

Since the main character is less capable then any other warrior on the map, or nearly so, then please allow us to get rid of them. Treat the main character you start with like any other warrior in your tribe so that after I switch to another better warrior, I can dismiss the gimp I started with, who just sits there sulking anyway.

PLEASE, if you insist on making our main character a peon and claim that we are in fact the mask, not that peon, then let me dispose of the useless starting character.

I would stop complaining about it if you did that. ;)

[~T~D~]

Or at least let him sit in a throne chair, but is he the king?

[LowIQ]

Yeah tbh i don't understand the "you're the mask" excuse. If I'm the mask and I'm building some tribe of the best of the best to some end why do I give a single f about this manlet who is the worst at everything? Why am I not ditching him the first chance I get?

[EverTrek1701]

i name my tribesmen with a suffix that help me see what they excel at. at first i thought my created character was going to level all skills and abilities but then learned my tribesmen started out with better builds.... as i think OP suggest is that the created character will never be as good without a lot of work as the recruited tribesmen.

so what do you use your main character for???

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by ~T~D~:

Or at least let him sit in a throne chair, but is he the king?

I see it more as cult leader...

[Smuggl]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

I see it more as cult leader...

I have to agree with the OP: if I'm "the mask", then I decide who leads the tribe, the cult or whatever.
The concept of the mask is a nice idea, but they didn't think it to the end ... it's lacking the final consequence that the starting toon is expandable and should be dismissable as any of the tribesmen.

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Smuggl:

Originally posted by Zalzany:

I see it more as cult leader...

I have to agree with the OP: if I'm "the mask", then I decide who leads the tribe, the cult or whatever.
The concept of the mask is a nice idea, but they didn't think it to the end ... it's lacking the final consequence that the starting toon is expandable and should be dismissable as any of the tribesmen.

That made no sense it was just word salad. And no the final conlcusion is the sacrafice is just a pawn, and you suppose to swap at will to better charactors just like they said in the trailers ever guide all over the marketing for it. The concept is great if you want change it you can hope for a modder to help you or make you own.

I am so tired of people going "well I know you intended it to go this way you told me 1k times what you want, but hear me out while ignore you, can you make it more like my game idea instead of yours?" Like I sell stuff and have people all time aprouch me with their "projects" its liek I could do that but it would take me like a week and you won't like the price tag "no no I htink if you sold it for same price this thing I like others might like to." Its like the thing right here is my best seller I don't think you idea will sell that good. "no no" ok ok you make it and prove me wrong then...

[LowIQ]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

Originally posted by Smuggl:

I have to agree with the OP: if I'm "the mask", then I decide who leads the tribe, the cult or whatever.
The concept of the mask is a nice idea, but they didn't think it to the end ... it's lacking the final consequence that the starting toon is expandable and should be dismissable as any of the tribesmen.

That made no sense it was just word salad. And no the final conlcusion is the sacrafice is just a pawn, and you suppose to swap at will to better charactors just like they said in the trailers ever guide all over the marketing for it. The concept is great if you want change it you can hope for a modder to help you or make you own.

I am so tired of people going "well I know you intended it to go this way you told me 1k times what you want, but hear me out while ignore you, can you make it more like my game idea instead of yours?" Like I sell stuff and have people all time aprouch me with their "projects" its liek I could do that but it would take me like a week and you won't like the price tag "no no I htink if you sold it for same price this thing I like others might like to." Its like the thing right here is my best seller I don't think you idea will sell that good. "no no" ok ok you make it and prove me wrong then...

I don't think you understood what the guy said. He wasn't complaining about any of that. In fact he liked the idea. He just questioned why the mask would choose the worst character with nothing special about him to get this special treatment and get to scrounge off the rest of the tribe and take up resources and space that a better character could etc. Why would the mask not ditch that guy like it can and does ditch other, better guys?

And idk why you're fighting the idea so hard even if he had when it's obviously popular player feedback that you're seeing often, and the devs DID release ea and specifically ask for player feedback to shape the game.

[Aoia]

It's advertised as you can control your tribe members, Not you're forced too because the protag is useless.

A design choice can be bad, that's why we give feedback, to fix it.

It's not a core system, changing it won't ruin anything, and could easily be a server setting.

[Dnote]

I suspect they've built the game so all the clan, warrior, crafting tables, buildings, etc are owned by your starting character. Which would make it impossible to get rid of the character.

They probably programmed it like this because every game does that, and the Mask swapping idea came later.

[Saint]

Originally posted by Dnote:

I suspect they've built the game so all the clan, warrior, crafting tables, buildings, etc are owned by your starting character. Which would make it impossible to get rid of the character.

They probably programmed it like this because every game does that, and the Mask swapping idea came later.

Problematically, it's not an issue. The "player object" can have any data associated with it they want, including the appearance and stats. It's already doing that now. The building and things belong to the player object, not to the appearance and stats of the current controlled warrior, if you get what I'm saying.

[Chibbs]

Originally posted by Aoia:

It's advertised as you can control your tribe members, Not you're forced too because the protag is useless.

A design choice can be bad, that's why we give feedback, to fix it.

It's not a core system, changing it won't ruin anything, and could easily be a server setting.

That is absolutely right, but you gotta admit that OP just complaints without giving any reasonable idea for a change. If the main character can become as strong as any other character the whole swapping mechanic (which is in fact a core mechanic) would be obsolete.

Originally posted by Saint:

I would stop complaining about it if you did that. ;)

This says it all. He is here to complain, not to give feedback.

[Saint]

I gave constructive suggestion on how to fix a game flaw, tell me how that isn't feedback.

Originally posted by Chibbs:

Originally posted by Aoia:

It's advertised as you can control your tribe members, Not you're forced too because the protag is useless.

A design choice can be bad, that's why we give feedback, to fix it.

It's not a core system, changing it won't ruin anything, and could easily be a server setting.

That is absolutely right, but you gotta admit that OP just complaints without giving any reasonable idea for a change. If the main character can become as strong as any other character the whole swapping mechanic (which is in fact a core mechanic) would be obsolete.

Originally posted by Saint:

I would stop complaining about it if you did that. ;)

This says it all. He is here to complain, not to give feedback.

I gave constructive suggestion to fix a glaring game flaw, tell me how that isn't feedback.

I said I'd stop complaining with a winky face indicating the non seriousness of the statement, because I have now participated in multiply threads on this same topic, but had not made a clear suggestion on how I think it can be fixed.

So... tough

[Saint]

Also, one last thing.

I bought the right to give feedback when I purchased the game from steam.

I earned the right to give feedback by playing more then 50 hours since EA release.

[Chibbs]

Originally posted by Saint:

I gave constructive suggestion on how to fix a game flaw, tell me how that isn't feedback.

Originally posted by Chibbs:

That is absolutely right, but you gotta admit that OP just complaints without giving any reasonable idea for a change. If the main character can become as strong as any other character the whole swapping mechanic (which is in fact a core mechanic) would be obsolete.



This says it all. He is here to complain, not to give feedback.

I gave constructive suggestion to fix a glaring game flaw, tell me how that isn't feedback.

I said I'd stop complaining with a winky face indicating the non seriousness of the statement, because I have now participated in multiply threads on this same topic, but had not made a clear suggestion on how I think it can be fixed.

So... tough

Well what exactly is your suggestion? All I can find your statements is that you would prefer to permanently swap your starter for some better char which would make the concept of “use different tribesmen for different builds/tasks while risking to lose them” obsolete which is the whole concept of the game.
Or am I missing something here?

[Saint]

what I'm suggesting is using the game mechanic, but making it global across your tribe, not treating the starter peon any differently then any other tribe member.