Max Level Skills - on main character

[Mae]

Hey! I know you can ''control'' your tribesmen to get access to better skills. Like I'm searching for Great Sword and Bow skills and some have up to 120. But our Main is ''locked'' at 50 for all skills. Is there a way, to keep my main, the character that I created and like and to unlock skills pass the 50 points?

[Ellorien]

I dislike the ideology behind “your original character is dispensable” because I am a rugged individualist both as a player and in RL, and all this collectivist culture BS rubs me the wrong way. When I create a character I intend to play with him throughout the whole game and watch him transform into whatever I choose to. I am not interested in putting the interests of the mask or the “tribe” above my own character’s interests, so to speak. Seriously, what kind of a sick Chinese joke is “you play as an object (mask) and your char and everyone else is just a dispensable carrier?”
I did not create a semi-decent looking male character with a proper Aztec name to play as an object “carried” by an ugly, sickly looking girl or other random npc I “control” (meaning the Mask controls?) later in the game. The whole concept stinks if that’s how we are supposed to play.

[Dragonknight951]

Originally posted by Moffle:

Originally posted by Dragonknight951:

so basically "The main character" is just some generic rando that gets replaced and relegated to redundancy or outright forgotten in no time. Got it.

The game trailers and descriptions literally present the concept of "no main character", so anyone taken by surprise by that has gone to great lengths to stay ignorant. Some people are just laser focused on failing at everything they do. You can't fight against that.

Thus why I had it in air quotes, I am aware the game doesn't want you to just have the one character, but the idea that the one character you personally create is basically dropped in the trash after a short intro is kinda annoying.

[Kap]

This is my biggest gripe with the game (Love everything else so far).
Having your character limited to lv. 40 and profficiency 50 (120 on npcs) feels -really- bad. Sure, I could swap to an NPC and level that one instead, but.. why shouldn't i just be able to limit my main character? And, if that NPC tribesman then dies as im controlling it, it's gone. There's no respawning with those.

So I'm gimped if I play my Main that can respawn, or I'm playing with permadeath on if I'm controlling an NPC. Both things I do not want.

[Oobaneko]

If MC will improve with mask repairing/upgrading at least at decent 80 at all - it's not that bad. But mechanic that will allow max out all skill and professions at 120 cap via sacrifices, it will give reason to seek more tribesmen, do not expel, but sacrifice worst tribesmen, still be depended on tribe, because productions must be done, you can take one or three with you for easing adventure.

[Zig]

ts Ea , so like others Ea they limited the lvl cap , as Conan, Ark and so on did at launch , their part of devlopment is going on while updates coming and raised the cap lvl as they do in the Ea Market now

[ShAdoW - SWJ]

They could always just have only so many points on the main character, like you cant become a master at everything so you will need to recruit followers to fill the gaps.

[Feng]

Originally posted by Kap:

This is my biggest gripe with the game (Love everything else so far).
Having your character limited to lv. 40 and profficiency 50 (120 on npcs) feels -really- bad. Sure, I could swap to an NPC and level that one instead, but.. why shouldn't i just be able to limit my main character? And, if that NPC tribesman then dies as im controlling it, it's gone. There's no respawning with those.

So I'm gimped if I play my Main that can respawn, or I'm playing with permadeath on if I'm controlling an NPC. Both things I do not want.

You can save a good tribesman (that you choose) after killing the first boss and getting the tech. You save his DNA and then you can revive him.
I didn't try yet but i got the skill and tech.

[starkmaddness]

The whole 'disposable' MC is a design choice that I suspect will be very unpopular. Hopefully the devs change it.

Me personally, I lost interest in playing the game further after I discovered that game mechanic. Intentionally gimping the MC with skill caps is a big nope for me.

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Mae:

Hey! I know you can ''control'' your tribesmen to get access to better skills. Like I'm searching for Great Sword and Bow skills and some have up to 120. But our Main is ''locked'' at 50 for all skills. Is there a way, to keep my main, the character that I created and like and to unlock skills pass the 50 points?

Yeah you swap you "main man" to some one else its literally core concept of entire game its in the trailers, the lets plays, the guides, etc etc. You suppose to swap to STONGER NPCs as you go. I mean defeat the entire purpose of the game if I could just do eveyrthing myself better then any one else, I would need any one else.

Originally posted by Zig:

ts Ea , so like others Ea they limited the lvl cap , as Conan, Ark and so on did at launch , their part of devlopment is going on while updates coming and raised the cap lvl as they do in the Ea Market now

I don't think this at all they literally said in trailers and everywhere else to gets strong you got recruit and swap to stronger people... So what the ♥♥♥♥ is point of saying this for months if they were gonna go "oh yeah but instead just remove the cap and make you the choosen one and you don't even really need npcs minus just for lols"

[Zig]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

Originally posted by Mae:

Hey! I know you can ''control'' your tribesmen to get access to better skills. Like I'm searching for Great Sword and Bow skills and some have up to 120. But our Main is ''locked'' at 50 for all skills. Is there a way, to keep my main, the character that I created and like and to unlock skills pass the 50 points?

Yeah you swap you "main man" to some one else its literally core concept of entire game its in the trailers, the lets plays, the guides, etc etc. You suppose to swap to STONGER NPCs as you go. I mean defeat the entire purpose of the game if I could just do eveyrthing myself better then any one else, I would need any one else.

Originally posted by Zig:

ts Ea , so like others Ea they limited the lvl cap , as Conan, Ark and so on did at launch , their part of devlopment is going on while updates coming and raised the cap lvl as they do in the Ea Market now

I don't think this at all they literally said in trailers and everywhere else to gets strong you got recruit and swap to stronger people... So what the ♥♥♥♥ is point of saying this for months if they were gonna go "oh yeah but instead just remove the cap and make you the choosen one and you don't even really need npcs minus just for lols"

False advertising , thats it...its surely not the first time u see this , right ?

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by starkmaddness:

The whole 'disposable' MC is a design choice that I suspect will be very unpopular. Hopefully the devs change it.

Me personally, I lost interest in playing the game further after I discovered that game mechanic. Intentionally gimping the MC with skill caps is a big nope for me.

Its design choice that for some insane reason is talked about EVERYEWHERE this game is, and you guys keep covering your ears, and eyes going "lalala can't hear or see this gonna buy it then pretend they didn't tell us since day one this!" Serriously I think hurt it more is selling out toe you shiny gamers who been told a million times what their vision of a game is, and there is ass ton of player videos showing how this works how beat the first boss etc etc all using this as number on tip for new players. Its even in freaking trailer swapping the mask to other NPCs to use their skill to get better sigh.

I am sick of this BS wit hall that it selling like hot cakes with great reviews. Issue is you shiny gamers are a lot but ones who can't accept the core game concept are a MINORITY and you guys are like "there is like 400 of us! Hear us pay money and not refund but then list our demands!" Its like you can't spend any more money who cares? Also its 400 yes its more then one a lot more, BUT its like 400, out of half a million sigh.

Every popular EA launch you shines do this game will be heavy SP and co-op only by design "well I bought it and got 30 hours but it would be amazing if you did it pvp, and changed these other 12 things!" Then none shiny will go "oh oh I haven't bought and wont' till they add these too!" Its like dudes it sold over half a million they don't need to sell out to get 100 more sales that most them will sell out there personal convictions themselves once mods come out, and buy it anyways lol

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Zig:

Originally posted by Zalzany:

Yeah you swap you "main man" to some one else its literally core concept of entire game its in the trailers, the lets plays, the guides, etc etc. You suppose to swap to STONGER NPCs as you go. I mean defeat the entire purpose of the game if I could just do eveyrthing myself better then any one else, I would need any one else.




I don't think this at all they literally said in trailers and everywhere else to gets strong you got recruit and swap to stronger people... So what the ♥♥♥♥ is point of saying this for months if they were gonna go "oh yeah but instead just remove the cap and make you the choosen one and you don't even really need npcs minus just for lols"

False advertising , thats it...its surely not the first time u see this , right ?

Yeah them telling us you got swap who the mask wears it in the TRAILER and every single lets play and player guide. Yeah that false advertisemtent lol

Wait its true advertisment. Just because you ignore the parts you don't like of the ads don't make it false it just you IGNORED the truth, and then blamed the game devs lol. And its something I see all over steam games, I mean use to quote store pages, interiviews, and even screen caps or gifs of the trailers but it doesn't mean anything to you shiny hype gamers who don't read or look at anything you don't want to see lol

[Zig]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

Originally posted by Zig:

False advertising , thats it...its surely not the first time u see this , right ?

Yeah them telling us you got swap who the mask wears it in the TRAILER and every single lets play and player guide. Yeah that false advertisemtent lol

Wait its true advertisment. Just because you ignore the parts you don't like of the ads don't make it false it just you IGNORED the truth, and then blamed the game devs lol. And its something I see all over steam games, I mean use to quote store pages, interiviews, and even screen caps or gifs of the trailers but it doesn't mean anything to you shiny hype gamers who don't read or look at anything you don't want to see lol

idc what the trailer was or is ...am playing a Ea game , with his buggs and inconveniences and i like it

[starkmaddness]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

Originally posted by Zig:

False advertising , thats it...its surely not the first time u see this , right ?

Yeah them telling us you got swap who the mask wears it in the TRAILER and every single lets play and player guide. Yeah that false advertisemtent lol

Wait its true advertisment. Just because you ignore the parts you don't like of the ads don't make it false it just you IGNORED the truth, and then blamed the game devs lol. And its something I see all over steam games, I mean use to quote store pages, interiviews, and even screen caps or gifs of the trailers but it doesn't mean anything to you shiny hype gamers who don't read or look at anything you don't want to see lol

Nobody is bothered that possessing a peon is a feature. The issue is NOWHERE is it stated that the MC is disposable and gimped. THAT is the problem. Plenty of games allow you to control NPCs, and they do so without turning the MC into a disposable character. So just stop with your ranting.

[Tod Soldat]

Originally posted by Noranum:

Think of the main char like the steward of the whole tribe. Since the player is basically the MASK, and the main char had the bad luck being chosen as the carrier, they are now the brain, but not the brawn, of the whole thing. Additionally, the game wants you to go out and recruit people. If you could just become the best in every trade, you would not actually found a tribe.

Untrue, peons are very handy for sitting in front of a furnace for hours on end and minding the crops