Wishing a.k.a I Wish I knew what was going on

[Raccoon]

So I'm pretty new to Wazhack-- ascension cherry still unpopped and 90% my runs are just Barbarians who hit things really hard.

Recently I learned about the magical world of dipping money into fountains to wish stuff into existence! Amazing!

Only problem: I can never find what I wish for.

I understand that a successful wish only spawns the item nearby opposed to at your feet but finding said item nearby almost never happens for me-- if y'all have any tips on actually finding wished items or strategies you use for wishing, shoot them over please!

[LazyTavi]

I hear there are no real rules for where it spawns. They can be close or far, maybe even in a different branch of the dungeon entirely. Always wish for three to make sure the odds are on your side.

Also, side note, I recommend playing all of the classes relatively evenly. Playing too much barbarian will put you in autopilot mode, ignoring every useful item you have that isn't the weapon in your hand. Sometimes playing a different class will reveal new strategies that you never would have thought of.

[Dopefisher]

Please consult: https://wazhack.fandom.com/wiki/Wish

[Raccoon]

Originally posted by FluffyBubbles:

I hear there are no real rules for where it spawns. They can be close or far, maybe even in a different branch of the dungeon entirely. Always wish for three to make sure the odds are on your side.

Also, side note, I recommend playing all of the classes relatively evenly. Playing too much barbarian will put you in autopilot mode, ignoring every useful item you have that isn't the weapon in your hand. Sometimes playing a different class will reveal new strategies that you never would have thought of.

Thanks for the tips! I tried a couple runs as Bardess -- lucked into a ring of levitation and spent the entirety of the run playing as my cat.
Turns out they become quite strong!
Unlike my wolf who does excels at nothing except get murdered by sewer rats.

Also going back to wishes-- when you personally wish for something, how do you go about finding it? Do you backtrack, keep playing or what? That's really what I want to know, how other players hunt down their wishes.

Originally posted by Fisher:

Please consult: https://wazhack.fandom.com/wiki/Wish

Don't worry I consulted the wiki first before coming to bother you guys. I just really want to know another player's strategy when it comes to locating and snagging wishes.
Like if you were me, what would you do?

[LazyTavi]

Originally posted by Raccoon:

Also going back to wishes-- when you personally wish for something, how do you go about finding it? Do you backtrack, keep playing or what? That's really what I want to know, how other players hunt down their wishes. :pdsmile:

I think which way you should go statistically depends on your current position, but it would always be safer to check the floors above you than below. I would advise having a decent food supply too, or a bakery on your map, in case food sources are too scarce up there. If I were to search, I would probably do it it in this order: 0ft -> 500ft -> Gnomish Mines -> rest of the dungeon -> Fort Ludios

Edit: I found the following quotes on the wiki

Originally posted by WazhackWiki:

The message "You wonder if wishes ever come true" indicates that enough coins have been spent but the wish was not granted. The message "You wonder if wishes come true" indicates that the wish was granted and the item can be found in unexplored territory.
Using more money increases your chances of getting a good fountain wish

Now that I think about it, I think wishing via fountain is designed to be unreliable, unlike the other wishing methods. Since its not too hard to save up money and definitely easy to toss it in a fountain, it leads me to believe that it's not supposed to be immensely helpful, at least not right away. I think its true purpose is to take some control over RNG and demand of it what should spawn in the dungeon.

Me personally I don't use this method much; I'd rather save my gold for the many services found in the dungeon (for some reason lol, business is booming I guess). I'm not sure if you've heard about the Djini yet, but finding one of those is usually somewhat reliable. Make sure the lamp is optimally blessed before rubbing it. Nobody likes an angry Djini

[Raccoon]

Originally posted by FluffyBubbles:

Now that I think about it, I think wishing via fountain is designed to be unreliable, unlike the other wishing methods. Since its not too hard to save up money and definitely easy to toss it in a fountain, it leads me to believe that it's not supposed to be immensely helpful, at least not right away. I think its true purpose is to take some control over RNG and demand of it what should spawn in the dungeon.

Me personally I don't use this method much; I'd rather save my gold for the many services found in the dungeon (for some reason lol, business is booming I guess). I'm not sure if you've heard about the Djini yet, but finding one of those is usually somewhat reliable. Make sure the lamp is optimally blessed before rubbing it. Nobody likes an angry Djini

Thanks a bunch!
So when would you say is a good time to wish if at all? Early game could be iffy because of the global failure chance and less food (although the unexplored bits are less likely to be full of super evil dudes and/or redbacks), would you say after a fully explored gnomish mines or right before going down?

Also I have in-fact seen what you speak and despite it being blessed, he still chased me down with his fancy curved sword and granted me the deepest wish of my heart: a quick death.

[!Supreme Grand Wizard Yoodiv]

I don't use the fountains for wishing, but my experience and reading suggests that if your wish is successful (compare the result text to find out), the item(s) normally appear in the next few floors of the dungeon, that you have not yet explored. So just proceed downward and explore fully, and hopefully you'll find your wish.

The best use of fountains long-term is to blank out scrolls to have blank paper to copy other scrolls onto. Hard to get all your gear up to +7/8 otherwise, and in general you have the utility of whatever you need. Charging & Remove Curse are also pretty important.

[Dopefisher]

Originally posted by Raccoon:

Originally posted by FluffyBubbles:

Now that I think about it, I think wishing via fountain is designed to be unreliable, unlike the other wishing methods. Since its not too hard to save up money and definitely easy to toss it in a fountain, it leads me to believe that it's not supposed to be immensely helpful, at least not right away. I think its true purpose is to take some control over RNG and demand of it what should spawn in the dungeon.

Me personally I don't use this method much; I'd rather save my gold for the many services found in the dungeon (for some reason lol, business is booming I guess). I'm not sure if you've heard about the Djini yet, but finding one of those is usually somewhat reliable. Make sure the lamp is optimally blessed before rubbing it. Nobody likes an angry Djini

Thanks a bunch!
So when would you say is a good time to wish if at all? Early game could be iffy because of the global failure chance and less food (although the unexplored bits are less likely to be full of super evil dudes and/or redbacks), would you say after a fully explored gnomish mines or right before going down?

Also I have in-fact seen what you speak and despite it being blessed, he still chased me down with his fancy curved sword and granted me the deepest wish of my heart: a quick death.

:DSTskull:

A djinni from a blessed lamp killed you? Did you accidentally hit him with a wand or something?

[Yort]

Wishing at fountains can be extremely helpful. You will know that your wish has been granted if you see the message "You wonder if wishes come true". If you dipped enough coins, but your wish has not been granted, you will get the message "You wonder if wishes ever come true". The item will spawn in unexplored territory within the next couple floors. As long as you have explored all of the floors above you (not left any parts unexplored) then the item will not spawn above you. My recommendation is to save up at least 300 coins and once you have them dip them in the first fountain you can and wish for "3 blessed immutable +3 speed boots", because the helpfulness of these boots cannot be overstated.