Five Nights at Freddy's: Into the Pit

Five Nights at Freddy's: Into the Pit

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Markiplier Made the Same Question I Did
https://youtu.be/Q4Qo6we8yu8?si=Hklp1_tGX81vtoXz&t=1788

I read the books and see the entire game play through, nothing answered our question:
Why does Spring Bonnie doesn't kill Oswald right away?
Why does Spring Bonnie brings Oswald back to home?
Why does Spring Bonnie kills Oswald at home when catch him, but doesn't kill Oswald when at the dinner table, or the living room, or inside the car, or in any other billion opportunities?

This game makes as little sense as the book, this they got right.
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The Yellow Rabbit is a sadist, prolonging misery and extending Oswald's suffering at seemingly arbitrary moments makes sense with this behavior and attitude in mind. If the Yellow Rabbit is the same as he is in the book, then he's a warped memory of William Afton, who was very much the same way. It's willing to kill Oswald sooner if it gets the opportunity, but it has no problem with letting him struggle a little longer if he's able to.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Aug 12, 2024 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by ♡Junkyard Dollhouse♡:
The Yellow Rabbit is a sadist, prolonging misery and extending Oswald's suffering at seemingly arbitrary moments makes sense with this behavior and attitude in mind. If the Yellow Rabbit is the same as he is in the book, then he's a warped memory of William Afton, who was very much the same way. It's willing to kill Oswald sooner if it gets the opportunity, but it has no problem with letting him struggle a little longer if he's able to.

This make no sense. He wants Oswald to suffer, but he straight tried to kill him the first time. He failed, then he wants Oswald to suffer, but then he straight tries to kill Oswald again while Oswald is trying to escape, but then he doesn't want to kill when mom is around, but then he tries again, but then he doesn't when...

This radical erratic behavior looks like a hole in the character lore based on when the game want us to go forward or to die. Since the main mechanic and genre of the game is the "cat and mouse" style (chasing and stopping you from doing your objectives, like Hello Neighbor) every time it's convenient to the player to properly play the game, Spring Bonnie won't kill us, but during any chasing sequence he will, but during cutscenes he won't, but during chasing sequences he will.

This, to me, is a failure to deliver the real purpose of the character in the game and in the book. It's a fact that Spring Bonnie is a person wearing a costume, this means it's William Afton because there's no one who wore the Golden Bonnie suit in FNAF history who wanted to kill multiple kids.

So... Why does Spring Bonnie "disguised" as Oswald's dad? Why does he keep living like Oswald's dad? Why only Oswald and the cat can see him as Spring Bonnie? Why to bring Oswald back to his house instead of killing him, or bringing him back to 1985 after knocking out Oswald's dad?

You see how this is convenient to make the game and the book properly advance? There are a bunch of holes that don't make sense... I don't know if we the fans are suppose to fill the holes with theories based on other books, games, movies, and real-life content, or if they just wanted to make secrets and "lost their hand" in the process. Weird.
DarkClawtooth Aug 14, 2024 @ 4:39pm 
This would be true if that was Spring Bonnie in the game, meaning Afton. It's not. Nor is ever stated as such only refered to as The Yellow Rabbit or that Creature. The general consensious I have seen from most Theories is that it is there is actually no one in the suit and it is prossesed by Agony. Which that itself is a whole different subject covered in the Fazbear Frights book. Going off that basis it could possibly be theroised that it is trying to relive memories from Afton, since Afton had a family, at the same time he killed a ton of kids. The whole concept os very confusing and complicated and unknown if any of it is even canon as the Fazbear Frights books do not seem be canon. Personally I feel this is a stand alone game just meant to cerelbrate the 10th Anniversary and is not canon at all. The next game coming next year by steel Wool Studios is the next mainline game and is canon.
GuineaPrince Aug 14, 2024 @ 9:12pm 
In my head I scrub out all of Scott's overcomplications and fill in his potholes with a simple

"♥♥♥♥'s haunted".

In my interpretation of the game, sure dad's trapped in 1984 but that's now a mechanism for possession. Instead of "agony-created demon in the shape of Spring Bonnie living out Afton's evil casually drinks beer in front of the TV, bangs Oswald's mom, tries to kill him at night", it's "dad's capture means he's now possessed. He acts like a duller version of himself in his more lucid moments, but at night the possession has more control and actively roams the house to hunt the child as if it's still in its pizzeria".

It might not be Scott's intent in the original story idea given to his ghost writer, but once the story is published and out in the world their jobs are done and the readers'/players' interpretations hold as much weight as their intention.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Aug 15, 2024 @ 3:07am 
Originally posted by DarkClawtooth:
This would be true if that was Spring Bonnie in the game, meaning Afton. It's not. Nor is ever stated as such only refered to as The Yellow Rabbit or that Creature. The general consensious I have seen from most Theories is that it is there is actually no one in the suit and it is prossesed by Agony.

It chocked to death, which means it breathes, which mean there IS someone inside the suit.
Those theorists are already factually wrong.
Digital Spooker Aug 19, 2024 @ 9:42am 
"why does he kill you immediately if you fail but not in the car" because it's a game and needs a fail state...
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:
Originally posted by DarkClawtooth:
This would be true if that was Spring Bonnie in the game, meaning Afton. It's not. Nor is ever stated as such only refered to as The Yellow Rabbit or that Creature. The general consensious I have seen from most Theories is that it is there is actually no one in the suit and it is prossesed by Agony.

It chocked to death, which means it breathes, which mean there IS someone inside the suit.
Those theorists are already factually wrong.
The suit itself is alive. There is nobody in the suit, it is the suit. Unless the person inside the suit also has giant rows of teeth and exposed, sinewy flesh I guess.
Gmod Solutions Aug 19, 2024 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:
Originally posted by DarkClawtooth:
This would be true if that was Spring Bonnie in the game, meaning Afton. It's not. Nor is ever stated as such only refered to as The Yellow Rabbit or that Creature. The general consensious I have seen from most Theories is that it is there is actually no one in the suit and it is prossesed by Agony.

It chocked to death, which means it breathes, which mean there IS someone inside the suit.
Those theorists are already factually wrong.
Its a creature made of pure agony, a beast. William at this point in fazbear frights canon is the chocolate spongebob lady in a hospital somewhere.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Aug 20, 2024 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by ♡Junkyard Dollhouse♡:
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

It chocked to death, which means it breathes, which mean there IS someone inside the suit.
Those theorists are already factually wrong.
The suit itself is alive. There is nobody in the suit, it is the suit. Unless the person inside the suit also has giant rows of teeth and exposed, sinewy flesh I guess.
Originally posted by Gmod SolutionsYT:
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

It chocked to death, which means it breathes, which mean there IS someone inside the suit.
Those theorists are already factually wrong.
Its a creature made of pure agony, a beast. William at this point in fazbear frights canon is the chocolate spongebob lady in a hospital somewhere.

And how can it be chocked to death?

By the way, neither the book or the game explains this, what you are both saying is your personal interpretation or assumption, there's no evidence backing you up on that.
GuineaPrince Aug 20, 2024 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:
By the way, neither the book or the game explains this, what you are both saying is your personal interpretation or assumption, there's no evidence backing you up on that.
When you read a book or play a game, when you experience a story in general, you're creating an interpretation and assumptions. That's how engaging with a story works.

Especially if it's something that's not explained. Then you have nothing but your interpretation to run with.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Aug 20, 2024 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by GuineaPrince:
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:
By the way, neither the book or the game explains this, what you are both saying is your personal interpretation or assumption, there's no evidence backing you up on that.
When you read a book or play a game, when you experience a story in general, you're creating an interpretation and assumptions. That's how engaging with a story works.

Especially if it's something that's not explained. Then you have nothing but your interpretation to run with.

No, you only have your personal interpretation and assumptions when the game or book doesn't explain it. The game and book explained who are Oswald, his mother and father, who Jeff and Mike are. The book says Mike is black so you don't have to think if this Mike is Mike Afton or any other Mike, while the game shows to you he's black. You know how Oswald was able to teleport to the past because the game and book explained to you how he did it.

When something is explained, you don't need your interpretation to try to understand how that something happen, because the source explained it to you. So, do you know how the ball pit is able to teleport you to the past? No, because neither the book or game explained, so you need to think out of the box and interpreter in your own way based on your life experience, because of that every single person will come up with a different reason, assuming, they are right. Some will say "magic", some will say "portal", some will say it's an under-world, or mirrored world, or any BS like that, why? Because the neither the game or book explained to you how the ball pit is able to send you back in time.

This is the same with the Yellow Bonnie. There's no name of it, Oswald only calls it generic names like Yellow Bonnie and "the thing" but we see nowhere saying "Spring Bonnie", you don't know if it's a costume or an animatronic, IT LOOKS LIKE a costume, but it acts like an animatronic. NONE of that is explained, thus what people do? People do their personal interpretation and assumptions based on other things.

What William Afton did? He used a yellow Bonnie costume to lure kids to the back room and kill them there... This "Yellow Bonnie" did exactly the same. So, it's completely normal to think this "Yellow Bonnie" is Spring Bonnie. Do we have any evidence of that? No, but we assume that based on what we know about the books, games, movies, and everything else the FNAF universe released.

So, you said it's the suit itself, because it's a beast made out of agony, but you have 0 evidence of that, neither the game or the book talks about agony, this is your assumption, your interpretation... But then you ignored the fact that the "suit" simply chocked to death, this is the same as saying it's breathing, which means it isn't just "the suit" because the suit has no lungs.

Where am I wrong?
Spoiler warning! I'm not going to spoiler block this whole post because then it'd just look like a giant black square, so don't read further if you don't want to be spoiled about Into The Pit or the Fazbear Frights stories in general

The Stitchwraith Stingers confirm that the ball pit allows for "time travel" (you're actually going inside the memories of past victims) because it was charged with agony/remnant thanks to Eleanor. The Yellow Rabbit being created by the ball pit would have to mean it's the same way. It's just the suit because the children murdered by Afton didn't know it was a man in a suit, they would have just assumed it was a big yellow rabbit (which makes sense when you consider the animatronics can free roam). The Yellow Rabbit being a weird flesh monster that has the suit as "skin" is an extension of this, the outside is defined but the inside is vague, because the victims have no memory of the inside, resulting in it looking like a twisted monster (think the FNaF4 animatronics, which look that way because the protagonist was scared of them). It can choke and "bleed" (it's confirmed to not actually be blood) because it's still an organic being, and when it "dies" in the book it actually turns back into a harmless, completely empty suit afterwards (If someone was inside where did they go? Hint: There was never anyone inside the suit).

I still stick by my interpretation of the Yellow Rabbit's behavior, it makes sense for a monster who's appearance and behavior is shaped by the memories and nightmares of children to behave in a sadistic, playful manner instead of outright killing whenever it's easiest.
GuineaPrince Aug 20, 2024 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:
No, you only have your personal interpretation and assumptions when the game or book doesn't explain it.
Do you read with no thoughts going through your head except for accepting the words on the page into your eyeballs? Even when you read something printed in black and white saying "this happened", you're filtering it through your experiences and beliefs and how you have read the characters and events to be. You're deciding how in-world explanations mesh with what else has been going on, what others have been saying, or perhaps it changes how you believe something else happened in the story.

You're not a copying machine, you read with an analytical and critical eye. All you're missing is acknowledgement of the importance of the reader's interpretation in the story, which outweighs author intent.
:) Aug 23, 2024 @ 7:00am 
lol you just cant understand this story it seems or youre still rage baiting. i told these exact things to you, you didnt believe me and now when other people tell you the exact same things you still argue ahahahaha. if you did read the books and actually read with thought in mind youd understand, but at the same time maybe not since youre still arguing with people who do understand the story and just saying they are wrong :steammocking:
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