Muffin Knight
Buntkreuz May 20, 2014 @ 3:54pm
Isnt this the SuperCrateBox rippoff?
As far as i know, Vlambeer has some serious problems with getting their games stolen or copied. Happened with Ridiculous Fishing and Super Crate Box. And i remember the problem with MuffinKnight being a problem for them because the company ripped off their game completely, same with R.Fishing. And while companies are protecting their trademarks and copyrights a similar case with Triple Town comes into mind having problems with Yeti Town, which was a rippoff of Triple Town.
So while im watching the store page, i see that this game actually is the rippoff of SuperCrateBox, which btw is for free on Steam.
Maybe people think about that, before buying this game here or maybe support Vlambeer, instead of companies taking ideas of other developers and copy those 1by1.
Last edited by Buntkreuz; May 20, 2014 @ 3:55pm
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Recknar May 20, 2014 @ 4:24pm 
It most certainly is. Hurray for steam quality control right? Play Super Crate Box people!
Me0wish May 20, 2014 @ 4:45pm 
sigh.. you guys know this game is actually quiet good? I'm just not paying more for a steam version.
White Adjacent May 20, 2014 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by Potatomancer:
sigh.. you guys know this game is actually quiet good? I'm just not paying more for a steam version.

Doesn't matter if it's good or not, it's just the fact that it's a blatant rip off. Hell, TotalBiscuit even touched on the subject to get people aware of things like this.
BeastBox May 20, 2014 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Potatomancer:
sigh.. you guys know this game is actually quiet good?
So is the game it rips off. Go play that instead and support the people who actually come up with these good games so they can make more good games, rather than pay for shovelware and support copy-pasted stagnation. It's just better for everyone.
Me0wish May 20, 2014 @ 4:56pm 
how is it a rip off? it uses different music, art, gameplay, mechanics, and everything else. The only similar thing is the concept of the game. Its like saying Rayman is a ripoff of mario.

I love SCB but there is no reason why I shouldn't play MK.
Noah May 20, 2014 @ 5:01pm 
SCB was a pretty basic game (only three stages, not many gamemodes), so I don't see why it's wrong for a company to expand upon the idea with improved visuals, audio, and hopefully, gameplay.
HappyWulf May 20, 2014 @ 6:09pm 
Because the SCB studio has been getting ripped off of EVERY game it ever makes. Litterally every game. Because of this they begun to record themselves coding their future games from scratch.
White Adjacent May 20, 2014 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by ghosties:
SCB was a pretty basic game (only three stages, not many gamemodes), so I don't see why it's wrong for a company to expand upon the idea with improved visuals, audio, and hopefully, gameplay.

It has a different art style as well as sound, whether it's an improvement is arguable. And gameplay wise from the video i saw, it's identical.

Only real difference here is that super crate box is a f2p.
Jimmy Jazz May 21, 2014 @ 12:51am 
I gotta agree with the "rip off theory": i played this on an iOS device and it's a shame how every unit is the exact rip off of the super crate box ones; except this has an upgrade sistem to support in-app purchases. So seriously people: don't buy this and stick to SCB, which is even free!
Last edited by Jimmy Jazz; May 21, 2014 @ 12:52am
Bastion May 21, 2014 @ 4:22am 
Originally posted by sGs.Teratai:
Originally posted by ghosties:
SCB was a pretty basic game (only three stages, not many gamemodes), so I don't see why it's wrong for a company to expand upon the idea with improved visuals, audio, and hopefully, gameplay.

It has a different art style as well as sound, whether it's an improvement is arguable. And gameplay wise from the video i saw, it's identical.

Only real difference here is that super crate box is a f2p.
Agree with this, saying Muffin Knight is different to SCB is like saying TF2 in Pyrovision is completely different to the original game.
Apart from maybe a few new levels or weapons or whatever, compared to SCB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ2X2HSxcgU
Buntkreuz May 21, 2014 @ 7:26am 
Example: Take League of Legends, replace every skin of every champ but keep the mechanics of what they do, the skillsets, the balance. Keep everything on the maps aswell and just change some colours, keep all the items in the game and just change the names and pictures but keep every mechanic and balance of it.
And then sell all of this as a new game. Isnt it still then a ripoff? You dont have to be a genious to change those things, even a low skilled modder could do all that, hell even i could.
It still is the same game, just with a different look, some minor changes here and there but it stays a copy, 1by1 of another game.
I dont think this is a supportable business then. Its bad business and shouldnt be supported.
Sure you can support that if you disagree with that "opinion", but then you shouldnt complain about getting the same games all the time.
Its easy, go to the original games, to the studios creating the ideas of such games and support those instead of noname companies that rip those games off, steal their ideas and then sell it for 1000% more money. You are not really missing much if ignoring this title and playing the original.
Sure there are games similar to SuperCrateBox and thats ok, you cant ever call games with similarities a ripoff. But there is a point of saying whether a game is a blatant copy of another, or was inspired by. And this one here, is a blatant copy.
Last edited by Buntkreuz; May 21, 2014 @ 7:28am
pantheon0918 May 21, 2014 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Recknar:
It most certainly is. Hurray for steam quality control right? Play Super Crate Box people!


Originally posted by sGs.Teratai:
Originally posted by Potatomancer:
sigh.. you guys know this game is actually quiet good? I'm just not paying more for a steam version.

Doesn't matter if it's good or not, it's just the fact that it's a blatant rip off. Hell, TotalBiscuit even touched on the subject to get people aware of things like this.


Originally posted by Potatomancer:
how is it a rip off? it uses different music, art, gameplay, mechanics, and everything else. The only similar thing is the concept of the game. Its like saying Rayman is a ripoff of mario.

I love SCB but there is no reason why I shouldn't play MK.


Originally posted by Potatomancer:
how is it a rip off? it uses different music, art, gameplay, mechanics, and everything else. The only similar thing is the concept of the game. Its like saying Rayman is a ripoff of mario.

I love SCB but there is no reason why I shouldn't play MK.

the first time i played muffin knight was 3 years ago on ios (its well known on ios )
...and i was thrilled to know that this game is coming over to steam and suddenly all these rip off craptalk by some people ( before then i dont even know whats supercrate box ) ...

then i decided to hit the search box and see what is supercrate box...JESUS Fxxx...i wont touch that game just for the sake of that grpahic !!! even if you pay me !!!! ... not to mention that crap dont even have mac osx version ... ...yea .. they can keep hating on a totally different game and claimed muffin knight is a rip off... pathetic ..
Last edited by pantheon0918; May 21, 2014 @ 8:08am
Buntkreuz May 21, 2014 @ 8:30am 
Originally posted by henryfakesmile:
Originally posted by Recknar:
It most certainly is. Hurray for steam quality control right? Play Super Crate Box people!


Originally posted by sGs.Teratai:

Doesn't matter if it's good or not, it's just the fact that it's a blatant rip off. Hell, TotalBiscuit even touched on the subject to get people aware of things like this.


Originally posted by Potatomancer:
how is it a rip off? it uses different music, art, gameplay, mechanics, and everything else. The only similar thing is the concept of the game. Its like saying Rayman is a ripoff of mario.

I love SCB but there is no reason why I shouldn't play MK.


Originally posted by Potatomancer:
how is it a rip off? it uses different music, art, gameplay, mechanics, and everything else. The only similar thing is the concept of the game. Its like saying Rayman is a ripoff of mario.

I love SCB but there is no reason why I shouldn't play MK.

the first time i played muffin knight was 3 years ago on ios (its well known on ios )
...and i was thrilled to know that this game is coming over to steam and suddenly all these rip off craptalk by some people ( before then i dont even know whats supercrate box ) ...

then i decided to hit the search box and see what is supercrate box...JESUS Fxxx...i wont touch that game just for the sake of that grpahic !!! even if you pay me !!!! ... not to mention that crap dont even have mac osx version ... ...yea .. they can keep hating on a totally different game and claimed muffin knight is a rip off... pathetic ..
calling it craptalk but writing this....pathetic...its not even well written. I guess you should reconsider the meaning of craptalk, you defined it quite good for yourself.
Btw you completely miss the meaning of trademarks completely. You try to rate the game, but thats a completely different topic. We arent here to compare both games and decide which one is better and then call out why it is.
The topic is about a company stealing the idea of another studio, ripping it off and selling it for a quite high price and if that is supportable.
You like other people stealing ideas of others? Then here you go, support them. I wanted to point that fact out, so people might think about that first. If they still want to move on, no one will prevent that.
But you shouldnt call something craptalk while you didnt even understand the tiniest bit of the topic.
Last edited by Buntkreuz; May 21, 2014 @ 8:35am
White Adjacent May 21, 2014 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by henryfakesmile:
Originally posted by Recknar:
It most certainly is. Hurray for steam quality control right? Play Super Crate Box people!


Originally posted by sGs.Teratai:

Doesn't matter if it's good or not, it's just the fact that it's a blatant rip off. Hell, TotalBiscuit even touched on the subject to get people aware of things like this.


Originally posted by Potatomancer:
how is it a rip off? it uses different music, art, gameplay, mechanics, and everything else. The only similar thing is the concept of the game. Its like saying Rayman is a ripoff of mario.

I love SCB but there is no reason why I shouldn't play MK.


Originally posted by Potatomancer:
how is it a rip off? it uses different music, art, gameplay, mechanics, and everything else. The only similar thing is the concept of the game. Its like saying Rayman is a ripoff of mario.

I love SCB but there is no reason why I shouldn't play MK.

the first time i played muffin knight was 3 years ago on ios (its well known on ios )
...and i was thrilled to know that this game is coming over to steam and suddenly all these rip off craptalk by some people ( before then i dont even know whats supercrate box ) ...

then i decided to hit the search box and see what is supercrate box...JESUS Fxxx...i wont touch that game just for the sake of that grpahic !!! even if you pay me !!!! ... not to mention that crap dont even have mac osx version ... ...yea .. they can keep hating on a totally different game and claimed muffin knight is a rip off... pathetic ..

Do you even read what people say before posting? We're not talking about graphics (which can be easily changed with someone who has basic skills in the modding area). We're talking about the actual concept of the game, the identical level design, gameplay and actual way the game handles.

Muffin knights IS Super Crate Box with different graphics and sounds. It's a reskinned version of the game marketting itself off as an entirely new game which they even have the nerve to charge for when the game they ripped off was free.

You're entitled to your own opinions, if you prefer muffin knight, go right ahead and play it. That's your choice, but you're just one of the gormless people (and I'm going to assume young too by your tone and grammar) that is fueling an industry that doesn't innovate on any kind of content on itself.

Games can take content, and they can improve on it, they can throw in their own innovations, which is why you see a lot of LoL and Dota 2 like games coming out, because there's a lot to change gameplay wise.

But this, this is just disgusting and I pity anyone who actually thinks this game is not a rip off.
Bastion May 21, 2014 @ 8:50am 
upeople :conwayshrug:
Obvious troll is obvious, no need to encourage them :golem:
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