Please remove "Must Defeat Midnight Cinderella" locks on cars/upgrades

[Demon Nachos]

The car list in this game is quite small, and the list of cars that people actually want to drive in-game much more so. However all desirable cars are locked until after the final boss, meaning by the time you FINALLY get that R34 Skyline you get to race maybe 12 people with it. Meanwhile you are forced to spend 80% of the races in an RX8 because none of the other options prior to the final boss are less crap (180sx is better looking, but objectively worse).

Just drop that requirement and let us use the HORDE of BP we have to sit on during the last 3/4 of the game (As there is nothing left to unlock so you build up 80 BP with nothing to spend it on) so we can get the cars we want to drive before the final boss.

EDIT- As a note I made this post after completing the game on the launch day patch, meaning I beat pre-nerf Angel with a Tier 2/3 upgrade RX8. I beat Cinderella with the same car, FINALLY unlocked all the cool cars and realized there was only maybe 12-15 more races between me and 100% completion. The fact so many idiots went "lol skill issue" when it is actually a "I absolutely HATE the rx-8 so let me drive my beloved turbo-barge 3000GT" issue is utterly obnoxious. I am aware Cinderella is meant to be the half-way point in the full game, but at time of writing she is the final boss. Even if/when we do get the other half it is still very annoying to be stuck with a car I hate rather than being able to access 2/3rds of the cars (and all but 1 or 2 that I want) until that deep into the game.

[Soul]

Having cars locked behind certain bosses just makes it so you can't grind your way to victory by using a powerful car, it also gives a better sense of progression (at least to me).

I don't even mind the lock on upgrades that much, what I mind is having to buy cars I don't care about just to get to the cars that I care.
Why do I have to buy a freaking bZ just to get to the Mk3 Supra?

I would personally just remove the "brand progression", as long as you have the boss defeated, you should be able to buy any car unlocked by that boss.

[malorob]

Postat inițial de Legendary Squash:

why are we forced into an rx8, literally an embarrassment of a car that cant last 60k miles without blowing up.
they arent fast. they dont look good either. so why the forced "this is the only car that can win statistically" when in reality a beat up 200000 mile stock ford probe would pew p all over that rx8.

it is faster than my Toyota tarago mind you almost everything is faster than my people mover family van.

even on down hills the thing is slow.

[PootisMayo]

I’m pretty iffy about the perk system as a whole, especially the car unlocks and credits cap increases.

[ShadowWolf7272]

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Postat inițial de 一宮1858:

+1
In addition, the bosses before Midnight Cinderella were impossible to beat under the bad condition with RX-8 + level 2 parts.
A boss fight that can't be won in a fair fight is sucks...

Sorry but it wasn't really that difficult. Just get the RX-8 with level 2-3 parts,.

For Midnight Cinderella I beat her after like 10 times challenging her. First 4 times I used my S13, but that was a no go. Once I got the RX-8, I just kept challenging her over and over until 1 round, she hit a car, I passed her and used the NOS.

I do not think anything needs to be changed, it's not fun if you can beat every boss with 1 attempt. There should be a challenge.

Melo angel has 450 PS in a rather light car, when in that point in the game you can maybe get 320 PS in an S14... Having a midboss thats way faster than a chapter boss already is a stupid idea, and on top of that? there is no way you will be able to beat Melo Angel heads up, being forced to either divebomb her into a corner or pray she eats a divider in the C1 is NOT a good way to have to race.

[覚王山1491]

Postat inițial de ShadowWolf7272:

Postat inițial de TrIpMo:

Sorry but it wasn't really that difficult. Just get the RX-8 with level 2-3 parts,.

For Midnight Cinderella I beat her after like 10 times challenging her. First 4 times I used my S13, but that was a no go. Once I got the RX-8, I just kept challenging her over and over until 1 round, she hit a car, I passed her and used the NOS.

I do not think anything needs to be changed, it's not fun if you can beat every boss with 1 attempt. There should be a challenge.

Melo angel has 450 PS in a rather light car, when in that point in the game you can maybe get 320 PS in an S14... Having a midboss thats way faster than a chapter boss already is a stupid idea, and on top of that? there is no way you will be able to beat Melo Angel heads up, being forced to either divebomb her into a corner or pray she eats a divider in the C1 is NOT a good way to have to race.

Even the RX-8 can only hold 340 hp. And yet, if you can't beat it by a fair fight,
it's just piece of crap, to say the least... Even on the request thread,
many Japanese want her weakened or have a difficulty setting add to the game.

BTW. Who the hell thrown the Crown to OP? it's not Skull issues.
we are stuck on the problem of this.

[carbastard]

Postat inițial de TrIpMo:

Postat inițial de 一宮1858:

+1
In addition, the bosses before Midnight Cinderella were impossible to beat under the bad condition with RX-8 + level 2 parts.
A boss fight that can't be won in a fair fight is sucks...

Sorry but it wasn't really that difficult. Just get the RX-8 with level 2-3 parts,.

For Midnight Cinderella I beat her after like 10 times challenging her. First 4 times I used my S13, but that was a no go. Once I got the RX-8, I just kept challenging her over and over until 1 round, she hit a car, I passed her and used the NOS.

I do not think anything needs to be changed, it's not fun if you can beat every boss with 1 attempt. There should be a challenge.

What you described isn't a challenge: it's simply a broken boss you were only able to defeat because you got lucky. That's pretty much the way we all beat here because the ridiculous perk unlock system limits you too much.

[Rob / Litch]

Postat inițial de TrIpMo:

Postat inițial de 一宮1858:

+1
In addition, the bosses before Midnight Cinderella were impossible to beat under the bad condition with RX-8 + level 2 parts.
A boss fight that can't be won in a fair fight is sucks...

Sorry but it wasn't really that difficult. Just get the RX-8 with level 2-3 parts,.

For Midnight Cinderella I beat her after like 10 times challenging her. First 4 times I used my S13, but that was a no go. Once I got the RX-8, I just kept challenging her over and over until 1 round, she hit a car, I passed her and used the NOS.

I do not think anything needs to be changed, it's not fun if you can beat every boss with 1 attempt. There should be a challenge.

here is the issue, you think because she crashed and thats how you beat her thats fair game? thats 100% RNG if it happens and not fun in the slightest, yea lets roll a dice and see if i beat them.

What would be more interesting, is if it was a side by side race for the most part, with sections where you end up infront and sections they end up infront, be more like the old burnout games, where the challenge was driving flawlessly for a long time.

i dont mind catch up mechanics at all, but i do mind when a car just leaves me within 5 seconds of the race starting and i have to pray their AI crashes, honestly this is just ♥♥♥♥ game design imo.

[stevefarrell94]

I don't get the dumb mentality of "Dude get over it pray your rival crashes so that you can win against them" BS. You shouldn't have to hope your rival crashes. It should be skill based where you can get a car and tune it to match the cars you're racing against and hope you have the skill to beat them.

Plus we know its early access and we are aware its not finished. But a large chunk of cars are locked until you beat Midnight Cinderella. That lock should be on the last few cars not half way up the list of cars you can unlock.

[Snippet]

I do recall TRNSPRTR said that Trance Drive (Blue Copen CERO boss) used to be fast af in early build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8acVR7NU3Ug

So I think the same case could be apply to Melo angel. We probably just have to wait until they update and "fix" this issue.

[Zero McDol]

Yep, I agree. Doesn't make much sense, since the bosses are all driving powerful cars. Not to mention that it's realistically, just a matter of hopping over to a dealership and buying the cars that you want.

Frankly, I didn't like it much in the previous TXR games either, hence why I used a codebreaker to unlock what I wanted early.

[Ironicalballs]

All other cars are R33s, R34, Evos, Etc

Meanwhile it says I have to beat an non existent End Boss Midnight Cinderella? I don't want to beat the game.. then to only be able to use 90% of car tree... Devs get rid of that lock.

[boris.glevrk]

Postat inițial de Ironicalballs:

All other cars are R33s, R34, Evos, Etc

Meanwhile it says I have to beat an non existent End Boss Midnight Cinderella? I don't want to beat the game.. then to only be able to use 90% of car tree... Devs get rid of that lock.

"non existent"? you just complete your current goals and she will appear, what do you mean "non existent"?

[ReIntegration]

I beat Mel Angel pre nerf and Cinderella with S13. Don’t understand why you plebs need a RX8. Yes I agree RX8 in real life is one of Mazdas worst cars ever and just as ugly too. You need to actually tune your car’s settings like i did. You don’t only need a RX8 to beat the half way point of this game. Once the rest of the game is unlocked in the Spring. The rivals, team leaders and bosses are only going to get harder.

[Bryan]

The problem here from what i can tell is you people are racing faster cars on long straights on stock gearing or terrible at tuning and think this game is a sim. it's a arcade game for your pc.

if you know your car is slower, follow them until you hit the more twisty roads so you can take advantage of being able to pass them... they have to brake hard and you do not. They will crash on their own trying to catch up on hard corners.


When you are in front they catch up fast but if you time it right and get next to a car on the other lane they crash because they can't go anywhere but hit the other car and you get a easy w.

This is a arcade so NASCAR brake check if they start walk you from behind because they take too long to get up to speed on the twisty roads if you block them and brake check.

Fast car but you can't turn well but know you can walk the other cars with the nitrous system upgrade ? follow them until you hit the longer speed sections like road to Daikoku parking area.

Beating the bosses for more unlocks is a reward for doing it.

Why should you be awarded more upgrades or cars for doing little to no effort to achieve them?

[meatballs_21]

I am so put off by the stupid unlock system I don’t really want to play any more.

In TXR2 I bought an S14 as my first nice car, used it until I could afford a WRX STi wagon, and then basically poured money into both and used them for pretty much the rest of the game.

Here I am still stuck in the stupid AE86, forced to unlock and buy cars I don’t want just to have a chance at beating bosses to arbitrarily get permission to buy the cars I do want (oh, and a better bank account, apparently, to hold the money). Meanwhile Nameless Ones are cruising around in nice cars failing to use them to their full potential.

It sucks and feels like padding to make EA seem longer.