Just got the Switch version in the mail!

[TheAbsol]

I'm happy to have a copy of the game that doesn't have Capcom's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Enigma DRM. I'll be playing it "on" my Switch instead for the time being. I wanted to support MvC, but I also didn't want to support Capcom's DRM. These games are all decades old, which makes them having DRM extra annoying.

[Mystical Spork]

DRM from a Russian company no less. God knows what will happen if the Kremlin starts getting desperate during the financial constraints of the current war in Ukraine and will use Russian hackers to insinuate a large scale hack on people who have Enigma installed on their devices.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Mystical Spork:

DRM from a Russian company no less. God knows what will happen if the Kremlin starts getting desperate during the financial constraints of the current war in Ukraine and will use Russian hackers to insinuate a large scale hack on people who have Enigma installed on their devices.

I thought Enigma was made by Capcom.

[Seamus]

And this is why research is a good thing instead of making assumptions.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Seamus:

And this is why research is a good thing instead of making assumptions.

Eh, DRM is DRM.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by TheAbsol:

Originally posted by Seamus:

And this is why research is a good thing instead of making assumptions.

Eh, DRM is DRM.

Almost every game on steam has valve's steamworks drm.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by TheAbsol:

Eh, DRM is DRM.

Almost every game on steam has valve's steamworks drm.

Hardly anyone cares about that because it's a lot less invasive. Steamworks as an argument is a dead horse. Steamworks still lets me do pretty much whatever the hell I want.

[Seamus]

Except, it regularly causes massive performance problems when implemented incorrectly. You being okay with it doesn't change facts.

What happened to "drm is drm"?

Hypocrisy is fun, isn't it?

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Except, it regularly causes massive performance problems when implemented incorrectly. You being okay with it doesn't change facts.

What happened to "drm is drm"?

Hypocrisy is fun, isn't it?

I don't know what point you're trying to make. Denuvo and Enigma are much worse than Steamworks because they actively interfere with your experience. I've never had issues with Steamworks and wasn't even really aware it existed for a while, while I've had big issues with Denuvo and won't even buy games with Enigma after Capcom retroactively put it into their games and after all the issues that caused.

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Except, it regularly causes massive performance problems when implemented incorrectly. You being okay with it doesn't change facts.

What happened to "drm is drm"?

Hypocrisy is fun, isn't it?

Denuvo games need to phone home every time hardware is changed, a certain amount of time passes, or if Irdeto forgets to make sure their own servers are working correctly. My Steam client backups from nearly a decade ago still work completely offline on any modern machine without needing to go online first, and so do any games that I had in my library at the time that didn't have extra DRM. Denuvo and Steamworks/SteamStub DRM are not the same, and not being bothered by one DRM while being bothered by another absolutely makes sense when Denuvo is so much more restrictive.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by CheeseBoar:

Denuvo games need to phone home every time hardware is changed, a certain amount of time passes, or if Irdeto forgets to make sure their own servers are working correctly. My Steam client backups from nearly a decade ago still work completely offline on any modern machine without needing to go online first, and so do any games that I had in my library at the time that didn't have extra DRM. Denuvo and Steamworks/SteamStub DRM are not the same, and not being bothered by one DRM while being bothered by another absolutely makes sense when Denuvo is so much more restrictive.

Neat hypocrisy.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by CheeseBoar:

Denuvo games need to phone home every time hardware is changed, a certain amount of time passes, or if Irdeto forgets to make sure their own servers are working correctly. My Steam client backups from nearly a decade ago still work completely offline on any modern machine without needing to go online first, and so do any games that I had in my library at the time that didn't have extra DRM. Denuvo and Steamworks/SteamStub DRM are not the same, and not being bothered by one DRM while being bothered by another absolutely makes sense when Denuvo is so much more restrictive.

Neat hypocrisy.

Neat lack of reading comprehension.

[Seamus]

"DRM is DRM, except for this one, it's okay" is hypocrisy.

It's not complicated.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Seamus:

"DRM is DRM, except for this one, it's okay" is hypocrisy.

It's not complicated.

You don't have any sense of nuance. Steamworks gives you so much freedom that it might as well not even be DRM. Once again, it isn't invasive like other forms of DRM like Denuvo and Enigma. They aren't comparable and stop acting like they are.

[lukaself]

Originally posted by Seamus:

"DRM is DRM, except for this one, it's okay" is hypocrisy.

It's not complicated.

Literal reading of an obvious hyperbole does not exactly demonstrate a high level of reading comprehension.

You swung with a personal attack and you missed. Take the spill and move on instead of derailing the thread.

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by CheeseBoar:

Denuvo games need to phone home every time hardware is changed, a certain amount of time passes, or if Irdeto forgets to make sure their own servers are working correctly. My Steam client backups from nearly a decade ago still work completely offline on any modern machine without needing to go online first, and so do any games that I had in my library at the time that didn't have extra DRM. Denuvo and Steamworks/SteamStub DRM are not the same, and not being bothered by one DRM while being bothered by another absolutely makes sense when Denuvo is so much more restrictive.

Neat hypocrisy.

Neat non-response.