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Mab Oct 29, 2018 @ 9:04pm
On the problem of in-screen cursor lock
Excuse me for machine translation.

Normally, when the window is active during game playing, the cursor of the mouse used for moving the view should be adjusted so that it is locked in the window so that it does not go out of the frame, but it works well Symptoms not confirmed were confirmed.

When I started up in window mode as usual, I noticed that behaviors behaving like the cursor passing through behind the screen as usual.
I can click on the icon or task bar outside the screen and the other window spreading to the next monitor with the momentum of shaking the view point to the right and left, so the operation of the game will be stopped each time.

Once locked into the window mode after making it full screen temporarily locked state improved.

However, after that, when I switched to borderless mode for confirmation, the same symptoms occur again, after that, I did not improve the locked state even if I coped with the same.

I think that the possibility that it is a problem of a unique environment here, but as a posting destination when a similar symptom is confirmed, I will let you build a thread as a report.



--Original text in japanese--

画面内カーソルロックの不具合について

機械翻訳で失礼します。

通常、ゲームプレイ時にウィンドウがアクティブになっている場合、視点移動に使うマウスのカーソルはウィンドウ内にロックされて枠の外に出ることがないように調整されているはずですが、それがうまく機能していない症状が確認されました。

普段どおりウィンドウモードで起動したところ、画面の後ろ側をカーソルが普通に通り抜けているような挙動になっていることに気づきました。
視点を左右に振った勢いで画面外にあるアイコンやタスクバー、隣のモニタに広げている他のウィンドウをクリックできてしてしまうので、そのたびにゲームの操作が止まってしまいます。

一度フルスクリーンにしてからウィンドウモードに戻したところ一時的にロック状態が改善しました。

しかしその後、確認のためにボーダレスモードに切り替えたところ再び同様の症状が起こり、その後は同様の対処をしてみてもロック状態の改善に至っていません。

こちら特有の環境の問題である可能性も十分に考えられるのですが、似たような症状が確認された場合の投稿先として、報告兼ねて、スレッドを建てさせていただこうと思います。
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Gafgar  [developer] Oct 29, 2018 @ 10:39pm 
So, if I understand this correctly, you are having the same issue again, even though it solved itself before, it's now back again? And switching to full screen and then restarting the game don't help?

I'm looking at the code, and it seam like as long as the window is detecting that it's active in windows, and the moue cursor is set to be invisible, like it is when not in menus, it will reset the mouse inside the window every update. It's very hard to tell what part of that is not working.

Can you try changing the raw mouse input option once just to see if it has any affect at all?
Mab Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:49am 
Yes, it was effective.
After starting up in window mode, switch to full screen and restart. From that state the cursor passed through by switching window mode again has improved.
It is as you said.

If "raw mouse input option" is turned OFF in this state, sensitivity will be considerably high.
It will be harder than usual, but it's not as sensitive as you can not play.

I turned off this item even when the window mode is abnormal.
At that time, it was a difficult situation to play with the momentum that the field of view rotated at high speed just by lightly moving it, facing the ceiling or the floor.
Gafgar  [developer] Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:11am 
Preferably you should not have to turn off the raw mouse input, as it's much much better to use that for accuracy when gaming. But it is good to know if it does a difference. When raw mouse is not used, the OS sensitivity will affect the game.

Sorry for now writing in Japanese atm. My Japanese is still not very good and it's slow for me two write, and I am short on time today. If it helps I will try to write in Japanese later.

That being said, sometimes itt's hard to understand the machine translated Japanese to English. It's often much easier for me to read Japanese. So if you could include Japanese text as well it would help me understand better. Atm I'm not 100% sure what effect the settings had for you in the end. Sorry.
Mab Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:28am 
それでは普通に日本語でお伝えした方がよろしいですね。
余計な手間をおかけしてしまったようで失礼しました。
一応、他の方が目を通すことを考えて下に英語の機械翻訳を載せるかたちにしておこうと思います。

Row mouse input については、不具合が起きていたときにいろいろ弄ってみた結果の報告ですね。

とりあえずは、フルスクリーンからウィンドウに戻す作業を行いつつこれまでどおりの通常設定で遊ばせていただこうと思います。
丁寧な応対、そして楽しいゲーム体験をありがとうございます。


- Machine translation English -

Then you better tell us in Japanese as usual.
I was sorry for having caused extra effort.
I think that I will put an English machine translation on the bottom thinking that the other person will look through.

About Row mouse input, it is a report of the result of trying various funts when a problem occurred.

For the time being, I would like to let you play with normal settings as before while doing the work of returning from the full screen to the window.
Thank you for careful response, and a fun game experience.
Gafgar  [developer] Nov 1, 2018 @ 6:05am 
Sorry for a slow reply. Today and yesterday has been very busy. I will do my best to reply properly tomorrow.
Gafgar  [developer] Nov 2, 2018 @ 8:17am 
So, I take it as the fullscreen to window mode settings change still works to fix the mouse, but it is not working when starting the game, so you have to do it every time you restart?

It's strange, and I don't remember that being an issue before, but for now it might be enough to play. I hope to take a look on the code once I am back at the office early next week. Hope I can find something to fix then.

Thanks for reporting, and thanks for playing! :)
Mab Nov 2, 2018 @ 12:18pm 
そうですね。
フルスクリーン→ウィンドウ の手順でカーソルの動作をいったん正常に戻しても、「カーソルの挙動に不具合が起こっているウィンドウモードの状態」でゲームが再開されてしまうのが現状です。

この問題が起こり始めた直前にグラフィックボードを新調(GTX750ti→GTX1060(6GB))した旨は以前にもお伝えしたと思いますが、そのへん環境の変化が悪さしているのかもしれません。

場合によっては一度、ゲーム自体の再インストールも試してみたほうがいいかもしれませんね。
他にも不具合が改善するようなことがあれば、またこちらに追加報告させていただこうと思います。

お忙しい中、返答ありがとうございます。


--Machine Tranceration--

I agree.
Even if I move the cursor back to normal once in full screen → window procedure, the current situation is that the game resumes in "Window mode state where cursor behavior is in trouble".

As I mentioned earlier to the effect that Graphicboard was renewed (GTX 750 ti → GTX 1060 (6 GB)) just before this problem began to occur, it may be that the change in the environment is bad.

In some cases it may be better to try reinstalling the game itself as well.
If there is something else that improves the problem, I will let you report it additionally here.

Thank you for your reply while you are busy.
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