Better than base game.

[Vermilion Knight]

Elden Ring really didn't do it for me.
After playing nearly every single FromSoft title, Elden Ring was probably the weakest of them in my opinion. It was too wide, too little content to justify exploring, lots of gloveworts and cookbooks with no real purpose and many dungeons feeling the same. Sure you have some cool boss fights and a few good locations, but even the design of the maps were fairly bland. Combat was okay and mostly fell prey to PVP players trying to find the next cheesy one shot build.

But with this game everything seems so much more focused. There is a goal in mind for the player, each player has class specific abilities and combat techniques. The locations are focused on combat and locating bosses or dungeons and chests.
I honestly think this will be a much better experience than Elden Ring's base game.
This game has the focus that the other titles before had, which is why I believe it's going to be really good, despite some peoples strange desire to hate it for no reason lol.

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Elden Ring really didn't do it for me.
After playing nearly every single FromSoft title, Elden Ring was probably the weakest of them in my opinion. It was too wide, too little content to justify exploring, lots of gloveworts and cookbooks with no real purpose and many dungeons feeling the same. Sure you have some cool boss fights and a few good locations, but even the design of the maps were fairly bland. Combat was okay and mostly fell prey to PVP players trying to find the next cheesy one shot build.

But with this game everything seems so much more focused. There is a goal in mind for the player, each player has class specific abilities and combat techniques. The locations are focused on combat and locating bosses or dungeons and chests.
I honestly think this will be a much better experience than Elden Ring's base game.
This game has the focus that the other titles before had, which is why I believe it's going to be really good, despite some peoples strange desire to hate it for no reason lol.

Yes it was but thanks to people who suck at video games it became popular and won GOTY.

Disgrace such people are even allow to speak and even bigger disgrace they can decide about games popularity and make games win rewards.
i bet 99% of people who finished elden ring cannot even killed grafted scion at very begining or even tree sentinel without leveling up xxx times.

I would die to see how all these people will do without summons solo.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒:

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Elden Ring really didn't do it for me.
After playing nearly every single FromSoft title, Elden Ring was probably the weakest of them in my opinion. It was too wide, too little content to justify exploring, lots of gloveworts and cookbooks with no real purpose and many dungeons feeling the same. Sure you have some cool boss fights and a few good locations, but even the design of the maps were fairly bland. Combat was okay and mostly fell prey to PVP players trying to find the next cheesy one shot build.

But with this game everything seems so much more focused. There is a goal in mind for the player, each player has class specific abilities and combat techniques. The locations are focused on combat and locating bosses or dungeons and chests.
I honestly think this will be a much better experience than Elden Ring's base game.
This game has the focus that the other titles before had, which is why I believe it's going to be really good, despite some peoples strange desire to hate it for no reason lol.

Yes it was but thanks to people who suck at video games it became popular and won GOTY.

Disgrace such people are even allow to speak and even bigger disgrace they can decide about games popularity and make games win rewards.
i bet 99% of people who finished elden ring cannot even killed grafted scion at very begining or even tree sentinel without leveling up xxx times.

I would die to see how all these people will do without summons solo.

I don't like to toss the phrase "casual" around often but Elden Ring was made for a more wider casual audience and it's apparent with how many options you have to just cheese through most of the game. Half of the time the fun/challenging bosses are completely optional. It's not really the Dark Souls "Souls like" experience that most people want to compare it to. To agree with your statement I think most people who play Elden Ring probably couldn't beat a Dark Souls game.

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒:

Yes it was but thanks to people who suck at video games it became popular and won GOTY.

Disgrace such people are even allow to speak and even bigger disgrace they can decide about games popularity and make games win rewards.
i bet 99% of people who finished elden ring cannot even killed grafted scion at very begining or even tree sentinel without leveling up xxx times.

I would die to see how all these people will do without summons solo.

I don't like to toss the phrase "casual" around often but Elden Ring was made for a more wider casual audience and it's apparent with how many options you have to just cheese through most of the game. Half of the time the fun/challenging bosses are completely optional. It's not really the Dark Souls "Souls like" experience that most people want to compare it to. To agree with your statement I think most people who play Elden Ring probably couldn't beat a Dark Souls game.

unfornutly they can... and just because they can they think dark souls is hard and skill base.

madafaka who think dark souls is skill base game don't even understand meaning of skill base game. If ds is skill base game just because you die a lot then witcher is puzzle game just because you have to think sometimes.

Only reason why elden ring got popular was this so called HYPE train everyone was riding on... omg open world souls like for first time made by from software JUMP INTO TRAIN AND GET YOUR HYPE GOING lmao... yea right.... because they surely never before reused assets in previous games or they are not famous from making the most annoying locations and reskins selling them as dlc at all.


On pc from software games are unplayble without using bilion mods
whatever to make online acceptble or just prevent cheater from ruining your save files

ITS UNPLAYBLE WITHOUT MODDING and people say its top tier best games ever.
also we may just call this company FROM SENSITIVE by how they behaving when people trying to use these mods in their games.

[AerialComb]

I have beaten all Dark Souls game and Sekiro from FromSoftware, and to be honest the most fun it is in ELDEN RING. It has wider variety of locations and interesting lore than the previous games.

Maybe is a bit more easy, because you can cheese the hell of it with the Mimic and other spells but it does not affect whatever way you want to play.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by AerialComb:

I have beaten all Dark Souls game and Sekiro from FromSoftware, and to be honest the most fun it is in ELDEN RING. It has wider variety of locations and interesting lore than the previous games.

Maybe is a bit more easy, because you can cheese the hell of it with the Mimic and other spells but it does not affect whatever way you want to play.

I wouldn't really agree in on the lore, since in Elden Ring there is practically none. I'm pretty sure that it's been confirmed it's not even finished. Most of the lore is open ended, and kinda random bits of story here and there with no real connections to anything other than a few locations. Especially with the DLC, they messed up the story and lore big time. If the DLC is cannon the game makes almost no sense at all. lol

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Originally posted by AerialComb:

Maybe is a bit more easy, because you can cheese the hell of it with the Mimic and other spells but it does not affect whatever way you want to play.

This makes so little sense i don't even know what to say.

how cheesing game doesn't affects way you play?
IT DOES it makes everything braindead easy and unjoyble,it gives you this false sense of feeling you are good at game and it makes game laughble compare to any other souls like, it drains any enjoyment from challenge you would normaly have and makes skill issue meme so popular.
You not playing game. GAME IS PLAYING ITSELF FOR YOU.

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by AerialComb:

I have beaten all Dark Souls game and Sekiro from FromSoftware, and to be honest the most fun it is in ELDEN RING. It has wider variety of locations and interesting lore than the previous games.

Maybe is a bit more easy, because you can cheese the hell of it with the Mimic and other spells but it does not affect whatever way you want to play.

I wouldn't really agree in on the lore, since in Elden Ring there is practically none. I'm pretty sure that it's been confirmed it's not even finished. Most of the lore is open ended, and kinda random bits of story here and there with no real connections to anything other than a few locations. Especially with the DLC, they messed up the story and lore big time. If the DLC is cannon the game makes almost no sense at all. lol

No point to speak with someone who cannot even see backfiring in hes own sentences.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒:

how cheesing game doesn't affects way you play?

You can just, you know, not decide to cheese.
The cheese is there for people who want to have an easy time.

Which, by the way, exists for all souls games. You can cheese all of them.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒:

how cheesing game doesn't affects way you play?

You can just, you know, not decide to cheese.
The cheese is there for people who want to have an easy time.

Which, by the way, exists for all souls games. You can cheese all of them.

It is kinda hard to stop all cheese builds in Dark Souls games due to the vast amount of customisable items and armor and stuff. So I understand why someone will eventually find a broken meta to beat everything quickly. But I agree that Elden Ring has a LOT more options to easily cheese without even attempting to prevent it. It would be different if it was a solo only game, but you can cheese your fights insanely easy and get huge rewards to then Smurf people in multiplayer and troll. Which should be prevented as it's unfair to new players who want to experience multiplayer and find nothing but level 5 players with end game armor and weapons one shotting them.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

You can just, you know, not decide to cheese.
The cheese is there for people who want to have an easy time.

Which, by the way, exists for all souls games. You can cheese all of them.

It is kinda hard to stop all cheese builds in Dark Souls games due to the vast amount of customisable items and armor and stuff. So I understand why someone will eventually find a broken meta to beat everything quickly. But I agree that Elden Ring has a LOT more options to easily cheese without even attempting to prevent it. It would be different if it was a solo only game, but you can cheese your fights insanely easy and get huge rewards to then Smurf people in multiplayer and troll. Which should be prevented as it's unfair to new players who want to experience multiplayer and find nothing but level 5 players with end game armor and weapons one shotting them.

This has been an issue since forever in FromSoft games though. Elden Ring is not the exception here.
I always disliked doing PvP stuff in their games because of that.
As for the game getting easier due to cheese stuff, so what? Don't use it yourself. How other people play the game shouldn't concern you honestly. Only if it affects you directly, which it does in PvP but then again that's the case with all their games.

That's also most likely the reason they scrapped it entirely for Nightreign. They know PvP is pretty rough. They'd pretty much have to rework PvP entirely at this point.

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

It is kinda hard to stop all cheese builds in Dark Souls games due to the vast amount of customisable items and armor and stuff. So I understand why someone will eventually find a broken meta to beat everything quickly. But I agree that Elden Ring has a LOT more options to easily cheese without even attempting to prevent it. It would be different if it was a solo only game, but you can cheese your fights insanely easy and get huge rewards to then Smurf people in multiplayer and troll. Which should be prevented as it's unfair to new players who want to experience multiplayer and find nothing but level 5 players with end game armor and weapons one shotting them.

This has been an issue since forever in FromSoft games though. Elden Ring is not the exception here.
I always disliked doing PvP stuff in their games because of that.
As for the game getting easier due to cheese stuff, so what? Don't use it yourself. How other people play the game shouldn't concern you honestly. Only if it affects you directly, which it does in PvP but then again that's the case with all their games.

That's also most likely the reason they scrapped it entirely for Nightreign. They know PvP is pretty rough. They'd pretty much have to rework PvP entirely at this point.

this is once again this oh you don't like summons don't use it L mentality.
Yes i don't like summoning, but game is build around it for people who does like it.

SO YOU CAN'T SAY JUST DON'T SUMMON AND YOU WILL BE FINE, because it will make game annoying for no reason.
You should be punished not for refusing to cheese everything but for playing like noob as you always was.
you should lose max hp like in dark souls 3, YOU SHOULD HAVE PENALTY FOR SUCKING HARD IN VIDEO GAMES to have motivation to get better. nothing like that accures in elden ring

and just saying don't use cheesy staff is stupid. because game is all about it.
If you don't want people to do certain thing give them reason not to do it.

Reason why you don't summoning in other games is because it cost something
either your limited items or just boosting boss hp decreasing amount of souls you will get from winning.

again nothing like that happens in elden ring and therefor game sucks ass because of it.
keep pretending it's top tier GOTY and all that crap.

and also yes it does concern me how other people playing game because majority of them called sekiro too hard and look where we are now. we have baby souls
pretty much where victory are giving player for free.
so don't spoon fed me lies saying it doesn't matter how other people playing and what they say.

Nightreight is basicly how original elden ring would be if this entire fake HYPE TRAIN would disapear and only clear right mind voices to decribe game quality will be heard.

[SyphonLife]

Enjoy your repetitive 30 minute online sessions with people disconnecting left and right and everyone playing the same 1 or 2 OP classes.

Next time just say you hate RPG's and just want a shooter in Dark Souls form and spare us your inane drivel.

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Originally posted by SyphonLife:

Enjoy your repetitive 30 minute online sessions with people disconnecting left and right and everyone playing the same 1 or 2 OP classes.

Next time just say you hate RPG's and just want a shooter in Dark Souls form and spare us your inane drivel.

Knowing i won't encouter toxic people like you that speak none sense (no offense of course its your choice)?
Be sure i will. Thanks.

[SoulSlayer]

so far im only cautious on this title. I really didnt like the elden ring dlc it was a massive dissapointment. The main game was ok but still weaker than fromsofts previous titles. ER in general had the easiest bosses in the souls like games and the most bland open world ive ever seen that makes Ubisoft trash look better. All i care about is fun challenging bosses with a semi open exploration.

[Nyx]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒:

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Elden Ring really didn't do it for me.
After playing nearly every single FromSoft title, Elden Ring was probably the weakest of them in my opinion. It was too wide, too little content to justify exploring, lots of gloveworts and cookbooks with no real purpose and many dungeons feeling the same. Sure you have some cool boss fights and a few good locations, but even the design of the maps were fairly bland. Combat was okay and mostly fell prey to PVP players trying to find the next cheesy one shot build.

But with this game everything seems so much more focused. There is a goal in mind for the player, each player has class specific abilities and combat techniques. The locations are focused on combat and locating bosses or dungeons and chests.
I honestly think this will be a much better experience than Elden Ring's base game.
This game has the focus that the other titles before had, which is why I believe it's going to be really good, despite some peoples strange desire to hate it for no reason lol.

Yes it was but thanks to people who suck at video games it became popular and won GOTY.

Disgrace such people are even allow to speak and even bigger disgrace they can decide about games popularity and make games win rewards.
i bet 99% of people who finished elden ring cannot even killed grafted scion at very begining or even tree sentinel without leveling up xxx times.

I would die to see how all these people will do without summons solo.

I am not this much triggered by ER fans, but I just want to say I'm still not ok with Dark Souls 3 losing Best RPG to a DLC in TGA.

[BlackSoul]

I'd rather buy Elden Ring 10x more times than this co-op mode. It's fine thinking that Dark Souls / Sekiro were better than Elden Ring. But thinking the co-op version of that very game is better than the original.... weird.