Guys.....

[Bowenf28]

Are we seeing the end of fromsoft??? With all the reused assets in both nightreign and the duskbloods Im really worried that this begins the downward spiral for From. It was already bad in elden ring, but it came with enough new content that it was easy to look past, but its starting to look bad. I really hope Im wrong and just being paranoid because up until this point, theyve been a shining example of good game design but now it seems they are just coasting off of the popularity of their other games.

[Nihrahk]

Games reuse assets all the time, no? There's nothing inherently wrong with reusing assets, it's all about how you use them. Unless Duskbloods and Nightreign both flop really hard when they're released, there's no reason to worry.

[PinkKush]

Have you ever heard of final fantasy? Can I introduce you to 20 different goblin enemies that are just the same model with a coat of paint?

[ledRid]

Yeah and every book ever sucks too, all they do is reuse the same fonts, it's so lazy.

[Long May the Sun Shine]

We’ve already seen the end. It’s called Elden Ring. It’s literally one big dump where Miyazaki put everything he and Tanimura invented since Demon Souls. They have no idea how to evolve the conception into something new.
Elden has some good things and characters like Malenia. Best boss ever. But it’s still a dump with no style.
Make a good narrative game, for instance. Why not? But no. Miyazaki still believes that a game shouldn’t have a plot, quests, dialogues. Let’s just reuse the reused! Make another Fortnight Souls.

[RoiRoiJe]

No you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot

[Tinkuwu]

Originally posted by Long May the Sun Shine:

Miyazaki still believes that a game shouldn’t have a plot, quests, dialogues.

Someone clearly never paid any attention to the Souls games. How is it you only started playing Dark Souls 3 in February 2024 but completed it this month? Then you get upset when you can't understand the story in the game, yet you went through three different endings in DS3. How did you not get ANYTHING from them?

There is a plot, quests, and dialogues with NPCs. That's the beauty of these games though, as you can go through the entire thing barely talking to anyone and ignoring dialogue, and still complete the game. But because you do that, you have no right to claim there's no plot, quests, or dialogue.

Also, I'm not gonna gloss over this:

Originally posted by Long May the Sun Shine:

Make another Fortnight Souls.

Nightreign is not a Fortnite-like game. It is not a BR game. I'm tired of seeing people scream "FORTNITE" when they see a shrinking zone. Games like Bomberman and Toy Pop had this kind of game mechanic long before Fortnite even existed. Toy Pop was released in 1986 and Bomberman was released in 1983.

[Alex(ITA)]

Originally posted by Bowenf28:

Are we seeing the end of fromsoft??? With all the reused assets in both nightreign and the duskbloods Im really worried that this begins the downward spiral for From. It was already bad in elden ring, but it came with enough new content that it was easy to look past, but its starting to look bad. I really hope Im wrong and just being paranoid because up until this point, theyve been a shining example of good game design but now it seems they are just coasting off of the popularity of their other games.

Brother why are you crying?
The game will be released in a month of what the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about

[Ken10]

If either of them were mainline games and/or full priced then maybe but they aren't so I don't think it really matters. Nothings stopping people from voting with their wallets and skipping them and holding out for main games if that's what they're here for

[Long May the Sun Shine]

Originally posted by Tinkuwu:

Originally posted by Long May the Sun Shine:

Miyazaki still believes that a game shouldn’t have a plot, quests, dialogues.

Someone clearly never paid any attention to the Souls games. How is it you only started playing Dark Souls 3 in February 2024 but completed it this month? Then you get upset when you can't understand the story in the game, yet you went through three different endings in DS3. How did you not get ANYTHING from them?

There is a plot, quests, and dialogues with NPCs. That's the beauty of these games though, as you can go through the entire thing barely talking to anyone and ignoring dialogue, and still complete the game. But because you do that, you have no right to claim there's no plot, quests, or dialogue.

Also, I'm not gonna gloss over this:

Originally posted by Long May the Sun Shine:

Make another Fortnight Souls.

Nightreign is not a Fortnite-like game. It is not a BR game. I'm tired of seeing people scream "FORTNITE" when they see a shrinking zone. Games like Bomberman and Toy Pop had this kind of game mechanic long before Fortnite even existed. Toy Pop was released in 1986 and Bomberman was released in 1983.

I played it earlier on PlayStation. Don’t look at the achievements. I played all the games.
That’s what you think about plot and dialogues. First of all, there aren’t any dialogues. There are monologues. Second, it’s not a plot. Let’s say then that Diablo has a plot. Yes, it has. But just for show.
Anyway, Elden is a nice time killer. And I enjoyed it. It could have been a great game. But no. And I’ll probably skip nightreign.
We need heroes who will connect the combat system of Bloodborne/Souls/Elden and narrative and immersiveness of RDR2 and dialogues of the Witcher 3. This game will be the greatest. But it won’t be the FromSoft’s one, as I can see.

[Mark Suckerburg]

Sargent Boody reporting for Doody

[=MoonShard=]

this is the end of your journey but beginning of mine

[justanotherhuman]

Originally posted by Bowenf28:

Are we seeing the end of fromsoft??? With all the reused assets in both nightreign and the duskbloods Im really worried that this begins the downward spiral for From. It was already bad in elden ring, but it came with enough new content that it was easy to look past, but its starting to look bad. I really hope Im wrong and just being paranoid because up until this point, theyve been a shining example of good game design but now it seems they are just coasting off of the popularity of their other games.

who cares been wanting a pve only elden ring idea for a while now

[ledRid]

Originally posted by Long May the Sun Shine:

First of all, there aren’t any dialogues. There are monologues. Second, it’s not a plot. Let’s say then that Diablo has a plot. Yes, it has. But just for show.

Sounds like you are just playing the wrong genre of game.

[Long May the Sun Shine]

Originally posted by ledRid:

Originally posted by Long May the Sun Shine:

First of all, there aren’t any dialogues. There are monologues. Second, it’s not a plot. Let’s say then that Diablo has a plot. Yes, it has. But just for show.

Sounds like you are just playing the wrong genre of game.

Sounds like you’re stuck in 2009. Elden looks like a nice skeleton with no meat. Nice mechanics to borrow, nothing more. And those mechanics were invented many years ago. So actually nothing new for those who are familiar with the games. No evolution, except for bosses. I would even say it’s a downgrade of design. Just huge fields and no idea. They really should play something except Zelda. And see what a modern game should look like.

[Alex(ITA)]

Originally posted by Long May the Sun Shine:

Sounds like you’re stuck in 2009. Elden looks like a nice skeleton with no meat. Nice mechanics to borrow, nothing more. And those mechanics were invented many years ago. So actually nothing new for those who are familiar with the games. No evolution, except for bosses. I would even say it’s a downgrade of design. Just huge fields and no idea. They really should play something except Zelda. And see what a modern game should look like.

My god guys... first people complain because they are making different games than usual, now you also complain about Soulslike?
No offense but at least be consistent with the criticism