"Uses Kernel Level Anti-Cheat"

[treos100]

greeeat...easy anti cheat (so-called because it's easily bypassed) has evolved into kernel level malware.

guess i'll be getting the ps5 version when i can because i am NOT putting this malware on my pc. absolutely NO ONE, be they hackers or game devs/pubs should EVER be trusted with absolute access to your pc.

which is what that is. kernel level is ring-0. the HIGHEST possible access level. higher than admin!

the only person who should have such access to your pc is YOU and no one else. anything that gives remote users that much access to your pc can only be classified as malware.

you don't even need to get other malware or be hacked because having this kind of anticheat software on your pc means your cyber security is already completely compromised. and you let it be compromised willingly.

edit: and yes, this kernel level stuff can and HAS been compromised by hackers already. it provides ZERO safety and security against cheating.

just look at the state of CoD cheating. those victims of stockholme syndrome are unironically wanting the devs to take things to a HARDWARE level now...cause that's all that's left. you're at ring-0 now. that's as far as the software can go.

and what will people do once this BS does go to the hardware level and that gets compromised too?

you don't care in the slightest about safety and security.

[Kitai]

fun fact vac is a kernel based anti cheat,
kernel level anti cheat isnt malware its actually much better then garbage software level anti cheat that dont work, remember punkbuster? yeah that never worked as intended,

that said all anti cheats arent perfect theres a reason why vac is delayed, and its a very good reason for it too,

now whats a malware level anti cheat is anything china related as all chinese games install spyware. which is illegal in north america japan and europe,

people literally forget vac is kernel level anti cheat.

so why is ok for valve to have a kernel level anti cheat but no ok for anyone else?

also ricochet works fine i seen script kiddies get screwed over by the anti cheat,
all activision anti cheat does is trolls the cheater who is using known cheats.

[Blink]

sadly no winning with anti cheat you get a crap one people complain that its bad, get one that searches even more on your pc then its a problem

[Norida]

Just a little message ahead for anyone planning to discuss with this guy, he is spamming pretty much every board, he doesn't own a single game on steam and is a massive pirate you can easily see it through his message history.
So don't waste your time on him.
Have a good day :)

[csand]

Sadly, kernel level anti cheat is the only way to detect changes made to by apps like cheat engine, which run at the kernel level. It doesn't give devs, or any actual person, access to your PC. It just allows the service access to read at a kernel level. Nothing in the user space, even elevated, has this kind of permission. And for a hacker or someone to take advantage of a vulnerability in this driver, they would require access to your PC through some other means first. And if they have that access, there are hundreds of much easier ways o get anything valuable.

I don't necessarily like it either, but it does work except against the most dedicated sh*tters. (Except on Linux/proton, which hopefully will be fixed - this is why Elden Ring is saturated with cheaters at the moment)

Certainly a double edged sword. My advice is always to use your gaming PC ONLY for gaming if it makes you uncomfortable, and always use multi-factor auth for all your important accounts

If you think EAC is gathering information about you and sending it to some server by running at kernel level, or doing anything other than what it needs to prevent cheats, you can always do a FOIA request to EAC, or GDPR, or the equivalent from where you live.

[treos100]

Originally posted by csand:

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except kernel level anticheat doesn't work. looks at CoD and all the other games that use it and remain flooded with hackers and cheaters.

and what will you do when it gets compromised? hello, hackers with ring-0 access to your pc.

nothing can prevent cheating and hacking in video games because there is no such thing as unhackable software.

the only thing i know of that MIGHT be actual unhackable software is TempleOS and even then there's likely SOME way in.

[csand]

Originally posted by treos100:

Originally posted by csand:

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except kernel level anticheat doesn't work. looks at CoD and all the other games that use it and remain flooded with hackers and cheaters.

and what will you do when it gets compromised? hello, hackers with ring-0 access to your pc.

nothing can prevent cheating and hacking in video games because there is no such thing as unhackable software.

the only thing i know of that MIGHT be actual unhackable software is TempleOS and even then there's likely SOME way in.

If you want to know really why COD has lots of cheaters, here it is. Not to mention it is a homebrew anticheat

https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/ex-cod-dev-explains-why-cheating-in-warzone-black-ops-6-is-worse-than-ever-3015797/

At any rate, we are talking about Fromsoft and EAC.

I spend a great deal of time in the Elden Ring hacking and reverse engineering community. EAC works so well it is considered too much trouble to bother with cheat engine on Windows. And yes solutions are available, like custom drivers, but you take a big risk of just bricking your PC or worse, which most aren't willing to take. Because on Proton/Linux EAC only runs at the user level, cheating there is almost trivial, and that is what all of the cheaters are using.

[treos100]

Originally posted by csand:

If you want to know really why CO has lots of cheaters, here it is. Not to mention it is a homebrew anticheat

https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/ex-cod-dev-explains-why-cheating-in-warzone-black-ops-6-is-worse-than-ever-3015797/

there's barely anything to the article. and all that was said is something blame truth covered...probably a couple months ago on youtube in a 15+ minute video. old news people already knew about.

[It is my CAT]

EAC now in many modern games. You were probably chilling too much under rock this years...
Not to mention that no one cares about accessing your PC.

[Claymaxxing]

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[Tyler the inflator]

Originally posted by It is my CAT:

EAC now in many modern games. You were probably chilling too much under rock this years...
Not to mention that no one cares about accessing your PC.

Fromsoft literally already had a problem with people getting access to your pc via their online service. So yes people care about that

[Z3TA_KiLLeR]

My issue has to do with modding. Elden Ring without mods already has armor pieces to make your character look skimpy. This new game seems to not go anywhere near that in terms of fashion souls. So, if I can't see my character's bare ass... and if using a two handed sword is gender locked... then that is a no buy situation for me... especially if I can't even mod the game because of kernel level anti cheat.
...Maybe if fromsoftware inserts the etransmogrify mod into the game, and lets you not only change your armor, but also gender, then I'll buy the game.