THIS COPY PASTE SLOP EVEN HAS GODRICK SOLDIERS, LMAO!!!!

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yes i will prob be buying it but still, disappointing

[Nu_Naym]

Buying it will only encourage them to make more you know? If its so disappointing why support it?

[Hollow-Enigma]

I'll gladly take this and have some fun in between waiting for the next mainline installment, looks like it has plenty new to offer anyway so not much to be disappointed about. Coulda just been nothing for a year instead.

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Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Buying it will only encourage them to make more you know? If its so disappointing why support it?

cuz despite disappointment, there isnt lot other games or competition around. game companies are spamming boring mediocre crap filled with live service

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Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

I'll gladly take this and have some fun in between waiting for the next mainline installment, looks like it has plenty new to offer anyway so not much to be disappointed about. Coulda just been nothing for a year instead.

true, we'll see how its gonna be

[Nu_Naym]

Originally posted by Vabi The Worgen:

Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Buying it will only encourage them to make more you know? If its so disappointing why support it?

cuz despite disappointment, there isnt lot other games or competition around. game companies are spamming boring mediocre crap filled with live service

If thats how you view it then sure. I just can't imagine myself thinking a game is gonna be beans and also thinking "I'm still gonna buy it". I do hope you manage to have fun with it in the end at least.

There are plenty of other games out there though, even plenty of great ones.

[Hollow-Enigma]

Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Originally posted by Vabi The Worgen:

cuz despite disappointment, there isnt lot other games or competition around. game companies are spamming boring mediocre crap filled with live service

If thats how you view it then sure. I just can't imagine myself thinking a game is gonna be beans and also thinking "I'm still gonna buy it". I do hope you manage to have fun with it in the end at least.

There are plenty of other games out there though, even plenty of great ones.

We're talking about FS here mate. You know first hand that the general quality that comes from them is seriously up there. None of their recent games have been anywhere near bad or wrongly priced. So where does this negative view of yours even come from, its very illogical to have expectations this low.

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Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Originally posted by Vabi The Worgen:

cuz despite disappointment, there isnt lot other games or competition around. game companies are spamming boring mediocre crap filled with live service

If thats how you view it then sure. I just can't imagine myself thinking a game is gonna be beans and also thinking "I'm still gonna buy it". I do hope you manage to have fun with it in the end at least.

There are plenty of other games out there though, even plenty of great ones.

because my first impressions with trailer is bad, but i cant fully judge yet and "maybe" will buy the game once i see some gameplay. i already got tired fighting godrick soldiers in elden ring cuz they were being spammed everywhere. im just worried thats all

[Hollow-Enigma]

Originally posted by Vabi The Worgen:

Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

If thats how you view it then sure. I just can't imagine myself thinking a game is gonna be beans and also thinking "I'm still gonna buy it". I do hope you manage to have fun with it in the end at least.

There are plenty of other games out there though, even plenty of great ones.

because my first impressions with trailer is bad, but i cant fully judge yet and "maybe" will buy the game once i see some gameplay. i already got tired fighting godrick soldiers in elden ring cuz they were being spammed everywhere. im just worried thats all

The rouge-like elements will certainly diminish the repetition to a large extend, combined with the randomized loot and more unique characters to play as you might honestly be pleasantly surprised. I freaking love the genre and understand exactly what they are aiming for with this.

[Nu_Naym]

Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

If thats how you view it then sure. I just can't imagine myself thinking a game is gonna be beans and also thinking "I'm still gonna buy it". I do hope you manage to have fun with it in the end at least.

There are plenty of other games out there though, even plenty of great ones.

We're talking about FS here mate. You know first hand that the general quality that comes from them is seriously up there. None of their recent games have been anywhere near bad or wrongly priced. So where does this negative view of yours even come from, its very illogical to have expectations this low.

Its very logical to view a drastic shift away from what I personally think makes their games great, which is games made with passion and care, to a game that seems made more to make some quick money.
My issue with the reuse of bosses isn't just that it's lazy, it comes across as a lack of care for their own IP. And seeing things just thrown together in Limgrave doesn't scream "passion and care" to me.

I do genuinely hope the people that buy it have fun with it. That isn't a lie or me being snarky.

[Nu_Naym]

Originally posted by Vabi The Worgen:

Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

If thats how you view it then sure. I just can't imagine myself thinking a game is gonna be beans and also thinking "I'm still gonna buy it". I do hope you manage to have fun with it in the end at least.

There are plenty of other games out there though, even plenty of great ones.

because my first impressions with trailer is bad, but i cant fully judge yet and "maybe" will buy the game once i see some gameplay. i already got tired fighting godrick soldiers in elden ring cuz they were being spammed everywhere. im just worried thats all

That's a fair take, fighting enemies we've been fighting since Demon's Souls is getting a little tiresome for some people

[Hollow-Enigma]

Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

We're talking about FS here mate. You know first hand that the general quality that comes from them is seriously up there. None of their recent games have been anywhere near bad or wrongly priced. So where does this negative view of yours even come from, its very illogical to have expectations this low.

Its very logical to view a drastic shift away from what I personally think makes their games great, which is games made with passion and care, to a game that seems made more to make some quick money.
My issue with the reuse of bosses isn't just that it's lazy, it comes across as a lack of care for their own IP. And seeing things just thrown together in Limgrave doesn't scream "passion and care" to me.

I do genuinely hope the people that buy it have fun with it. That isn't a lie or me being snarky.

Randomization is key in roguelikes, having a strong amount of random occurrences to keep things fresh is incredibly important. And by the looks of it they understand this very well, by re-using and reworking some older assets they are able to make a larger volume content. This content will then fuel the RNG machine and keeps things more varried than they would have been able to make it when all that extra time went into making entirely new creatures. This doesn't exactly scream lack of care to me.

[Nu_Naym]

Originally posted by Hollow-Enigma:

Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Its very logical to view a drastic shift away from what I personally think makes their games great, which is games made with passion and care, to a game that seems made more to make some quick money.
My issue with the reuse of bosses isn't just that it's lazy, it comes across as a lack of care for their own IP. And seeing things just thrown together in Limgrave doesn't scream "passion and care" to me.

I do genuinely hope the people that buy it have fun with it. That isn't a lie or me being snarky.

Randomization is key in roguelikes, having a strong amount of random occurrences to keep things fresh is incredibly important. And by the looks of it they understand this very well, by re-using and reworking some older assets they are able to make a larger volume content. This content will then fuel the RNG machine and keeps things more varried than they would have been able to make it when all that extra time went into making entirely new creatures. This doesn't exactly scream lack of care to me.

I'd rather them take 1-2 more years to make the same game with original enemies and the same variety. I've SEEN all these bosses before, doesn't matter if they have a few new moves. The impact of seeing them and going "Oh ♥♥♥♥" is gone.

And it seems we have very different views on what a lack of care means and I doubt we're gonna change each others minds.

[Hollow-Enigma]

Fair enough to feel that way about some foes, but its hardly everything the game is about, there will be plenty of those "Oh ♥♥♥♥" moments to be had no doubt. Just not for every single encounter, for most that is a fair compromise.

[Lava Alien 1000]

Originally posted by Vabi The Worgen:

yes i will prob be buying it but still, disappointing

i mean it make sense since interviews confirmed the Shattering War also happened in nightreign but aftermath that completely went differently from main game.

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Originally posted by Nu_Naym:

Originally posted by Vabi The Worgen:

because my first impressions with trailer is bad, but i cant fully judge yet and "maybe" will buy the game once i see some gameplay. i already got tired fighting godrick soldiers in elden ring cuz they were being spammed everywhere. im just worried thats all

That's a fair take, fighting enemies we've been fighting since Demon's Souls is getting a little tiresome for some people

no, its not about fighting similar enemies. there isnt "demons souls" enemies in elden ring or nightreign. its about the exact same animations, model and behavior