No fps cap?

[nickwithtea]

Any word if this will be not locked to 60fps? Couldn't play ER1 because of that. Hope it has changed!

[Cooperal]

It is impossible for this game to fail commercially so I don't think it is their top priority. This is more likely to be a B team game rather than another Miyazaki flagship, and this would be very far from the first time fan pleas have been neglected over this exact issue.

This doesn't mean that upgrades cannot happen. DS2 was a B team game and it was the first one to officially include 60 fps support, but it should be noted how terribly that was handled. Most notably was the durability bug which From and Bamco denied in the face off easily reproduceable proof. They fixed it when they released it again as a separate title only months after the original finished its round of DLC.

In theory fakes frames could get us past 60fps without flagging us as cheaters, but considering this is also releasing as a last gen console title I don't expect that to be a priority either. And of course inserting frames in between true 60fps is only going to get you so far. As it is a coop focused game you can bet that a lot of it will be a more about following a meta script rather than your creative and reflexive prowess.

[ItsJustT0m]

you have a problem if you cant play at 60 fps.

[nickwithtea]

Originally posted by ItsJustT0m:

you have a problem if you cant play at 60 fps.

Unfortunately 60 FPS does not feel or look good on high refresh rate monitors. I used to have 60 FPS in 2004, it's 2024 and about to be 2025.

It's very hard to argue for engine framerate caps, especially when 99.99% of games we play do not have one that low.

[Gaydivers 2]

Originally posted by nickwithtea:

Originally posted by ItsJustT0m:

you have a problem if you cant play at 60 fps.

Unfortunately 60 FPS does not feel or look good on high refresh rate monitors. I used to have 60 FPS in 2004, it's 2024 and about to be 2025.

It's very hard to argue for engine framerate caps, especially when 99.99% of games we play do not have one that low.

I have a high refresh rate monitor. it feels fine

[lilgirlcharlotte]

60 fps is not of this age. imagine getting a 5k+ setup to game like we did 10 or more years ago lol.
Also lots of ghosting and input lags if you play on 144hz or higher with only 60fps.
The devs said before that 60fps was a choice to eliminate advantges with players with good pcs and high fps as they obv have way less input lags and more responsive gameplay.

[Meeka Moon]

I always set the cap to 60 fps on a 144hz monitor. Everything always runs silky smooth. Preferences are just a opinion.

[MadHamster]

Originally posted by lilgirlcharlotte:

60 fps is not of this age. imagine getting a 5k+ setup to game like we did 10 or more years ago lol.
Also lots of ghosting and input lags if you play on 144hz or higher with only 60fps.
The devs said before that 60fps was a choice to eliminate advantges with players with good pcs and high fps as they obv have way less input lags and more responsive gameplay.

Brother, you can somehow spot an input lag of 0.0025 nano-microns??? Are you a super human???

[A D L]

Originally posted by Meeka Moon:

I always set the cap to 60 fps on a 144hz monitor. Everything always runs silky smooth. Preferences are just a opinion.

This sounds like cope from someone that doesn't have the hardware to adequately drive that 144hz monitor.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by csand:

The engine got significantly upgraded with Armored Core 6 and was maxed at 120fps. Hopefully they use that branch of the engine here.I would imagine they will, which means the game may also support ultrawide aspect ratios like AC6 as well

I'm sad that SoTE didn't have 120fps, hopefully this will have that.

[TimsGamingDen]

editted sorry made post in wrong game forum lol

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by TimsGamingDen:

I dont know what the 60 fps brabbling is about.
Because you can set fps to 30, 60, 120, 144, 160,165, 180, 200, 240 and unlimited.
Mine is on 144 and my 8 hours of playtime was very smooth.

For real so you can go unlimited FPS in Nightrein?

Big if true.

[TimsGamingDen]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by TimsGamingDen:

I dont know what the 60 fps brabbling is about.
Because you can set fps to 30, 60, 120, 144, 160,165, 180, 200, 240 and unlimited.
Mine is on 144 and my 8 hours of playtime was very smooth.

For real so you can go unlimited FPS in Nightrein?

Big if true.

No sorry, i posted a reply in the wrong game forum, playing to much games atm.
I removed it :)

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by TimsGamingDen:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

For real so you can go unlimited FPS in Nightrein?

Big if true.

No sorry, i posted a reply in the wrong game forum, playing to much games atm.
I removed it :)

OK bro :(

[Deadmano]

Originally posted by lilgirlcharlotte:

60 fps is not of this age. imagine getting a 5k+ setup to game like we did 10 or more years ago lol.
Also lots of ghosting and input lags if you play on 144hz or higher with only 60fps.
The devs said before that 60fps was a choice to eliminate advantges with players with good pcs and high fps as they obv have way less input lags and more responsive gameplay.

As someone who has a $7K+ setup, 60 FPS is perfectly normal if you're going for maxing out everything in modern games, and it feels incredible too. You might prefer lower graphics and lighting to push your FPS up, but some of us love the eye-candy at 4K maxed out settings.

Also you've got the input delay on 60FPS twisted. 60FPS On a high refresh-rate monitor is not the same as running the game at 60Hz. It is a norm to run high refresh-rate monitors (120Hz+) but capping the game, that way you get the low input delay without the issue of low Hz/V-Sync (capping to monitor's refresh rate). Your frametime is still much lower. Don't believe me? Try it out next time with an OSD from something like MSI Afterburner. 60 FPS at higher monitor refresh rate looks way better than 120FPS+ that fluctuates wildly due to not being able to keep up stable frametimes.

[A D L]

If you're spending $7K on a PC and targeting 60FPS you're wasting your money. I have a $5000 computer and I'm easily able to hit 4K/120-165hz native.

60FPS is the bare acceptable minimum but don't delude yourself into thinking it feels incredible. Compared to 120/144/165/240? No way.