Cannot play in multiplayer modes...

[DoX]

I try to play with my friend (in online), but everytime (every modes) a few second after the that loading start, the music stop, the animations stop, we can only hear " a sound of the sea", and if we wait, maybe 5min (maybe more), we have a error message for say " you waited to much, you will return to the menu start" (or something like that).

[korefuji]

yep i feel your pain bud, this really needs to be fixed or mp nixed until it's completely working. game is need of abundant sticky tape fixing.

[DoX]

This game is an Alpha... I hope some day, Steam will do something against project like this one, ths project start from almost 0 in "early access". (Produce by Microsoft, they don't have enought money for put a game from Xbox to PC ?). I was thinking than "Early Access" meant "Pre-Beta Test", I guess I was wrong.

[korefuji]

yup it seems that EARLY ACCESS is changing its meaning as and when a developer chooses to. Not that it had ad definite definition in the first place, having said that the caveat was on the store page that it would be early in development. So you gotta pick and be choosy about what game you back. I also learned today that EA doesn't necessarily mean that a game needs to be completed or have any intention to complete the title before commericlal release. Them's the risks

[Meturoido]

Originally posted by DoX:

This game is an Alpha... I hope some day, Steam will do something against project like this one, ths project start from almost 0 in "early access". (Produce by Microsoft, they don't have enought money for put a game from Xbox to PC ?). I was thinking than "Early Access" meant "Pre-Beta Test", I guess I was wrong.

Get your facts straight for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, and straight from the store page:

Developer: Signal Studios , Krome Studios
Publisher: Signal Studios

[The Ninth Angel]

Hey everyone! Just wanted to clarify some stuff here.
We acquired the Toy Soldiers IP back from Microsoft, and are currently publishing this game 100% on our own. We have taken out Windows Game for Live, and put all the XBLA content in this that had never been seen on PC before, and other content not even available on XBLA. We're working hard to get this game working as we had to rebuild a lot of it. We're also adding multiplayer between the first Toy Soldiers and Cold War, which is pretty big. Along with that, we're adding new units, and other aspects.
So, long story short, this is a lot of work, and we're a small group (about 50 devs).
We really appreciate your support as you help us make this game great on PC :)


As for the multiplayer issue, we 100% here you and are trying really hard to fix it!

[DoX]

Maybe I will ask my money back, if we cannot play soon in multiplayers. I really don't care "Cold War" and DLC, I LOVE Toy Soldier 1 in multyplayers, if i can play this game whithout a connection online (steam offline) in split screen, i will buy it. I bought the complete edition with my friend because we saw than it was just 1 euros more, and we don't play on "Xbox live". When do you will unlock Toy Soldier 1 (or Cold War, or both) with multi-players ? (and 50 devs, this is not realy small... it's more than many of studios in France)

[DoX]

I almost forgot, Please think about the "azerty" keyboards (use the arrows). And use the "space bar" for get out of the units (fix on the floor), When I want to see if my units can be upgrade, it's boring of click on something than i don't want to do, just for out of the units.

[Meturoido]

Originally posted by DoX:

Maybe I will ask my money back, if we cannot play soon in multiplayers. I really don't care "Cold War" and DLC, I LOVE Toy Soldier 1 in multyplayers, if i can play this game whithout a connection online (steam offline) in split screen, i will buy it. I bought the complete edition with my friend because we saw than it was just 1 euros more, and we don't play on "Xbox live". When do you will unlock Toy Soldier 1 (or Cold War, or both) with multi-players ? (and 50 devs, this is not realy small... it's more than many of studios in France)

What part of they "trying really hard to fix it" did you not understand??

This is not a preorder scheme, you will not get a refund from Valve over this, specially because you have no grounds whatsoever to obtain it.

Just be patient, they will deliver well before launch.

[DoX]

1- Yes I can ask a for my money back (we can for "Max Payne" because it cannot work on steam, so why not with "Toy Soldier" ?); 2- It don't have a date for the launch; And 3- They never said than we cannot play in multiplayer before we bought this game. In fact, i'm worry to see they don't know, when it will work in an "Early acces" without date of launch... i have All reasons to have doubt about this production, this is not Kicstarter here ! (and on steam it's not the first time... "Infestation: Survivor Stories" = "War Z"...).

[Meturoido]

Originally posted by DoX:

1- Yes I can ask a for my money back (we can for "Max Payne" because it cannot work on steam, so why not with "Toy Soldier" ?); 2- It don't have a date for the launch; And 3- They never said than we cannot play in multiplayer before we bought this game. In fact, i'm worry to see they don't know, when it will work in an "Early acces" without date of launch... i have All reasons to have doubt about this production, this is not Kicstarter here ! (and on steam it's not the first time... "Infestation: Survivor Stories" = "War Z"...).

1. Rule does not apply to Early Access games.

2. Something you should have known before getting the game, there are countless games on Steam which have been on EA since forever, you should have done your research

3. They said the game is full or bugs and lacking many features, again, something you should have been aware of. from the store page:

“DISCLAIMER: THIS IS AN EARLY ACCESS BUILD. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THERE MAY BE BUGS AND POSSIBLE INTERRUPTIONS OF GAME FUNCTIONING."

I know what you mean but I'm just making you aware of the issues at hand, you can as well go ahead and attempt for that refund, just know that in *normal cases* Steam is known to give a single time refund, are you sure the money you paid for this is worth losing that opportunity??

As for the rest, all I can say is that Signal is a very cool dev, just be patient.

[DoX]

If i don't ask my money back, it's because I have respect for this work (like i said, i love the first "Toy Soldiers"). But start a project like that whitout deadline, and with put it in AE without a minimum of fonctionnalities... (maybe they just not communicates about it) It really bad for a project AND, in AE for customers.