Let's stop the hate

[DMYTRO]

Hey, I love Hollow Knight as much as the next guy but nobody deserves hate for making their game a bit too similar to the game you like or even love.

I definitely see the similarities, but I also see similarities in Crowsworn. In both cases I could look at a screenshot and point to a location in HK it reminds me of.

If they can make a game that plays as well as HK then we should be happy about it because we have two great games.

What would Team Cherry think of you all hating on people you don't even know. We don't hate on companies making computer cases that all look the same.

I implore you, please, don't do this. We have enough hatred in this world already.

Let's just enjoy the games. If you enjoy Hollow Knight then go play it again. And they buy Silksong (whenever it comes out).

I doubt that sales of Deviator will somehow impact the sales of HK. If anything it may bring even more people to HK community.

I wish you all a very pleasant year.

[长颈鹿首精]

Thanks for the support!

[Octorocket]

I won't hate on any dev for trying to copy the greats. That's how new greats get made more often than not! Take the things that already worked well, and do something new or better with them...

That said, it makes me very sad to see something that looks SO close. When the style of the scenery AND the core moveset are not just similar, but legitimately hard to distinguish, the devs have nearly begged us to make that comparison. When it's held up to the template of what came before, every fault will be criticized more harshly for it, unless it _outdoes_ the original.

Even if it's a genuinely great and enjoyable game, that inevitable comparison to a revered game puts this one in an awful position it never needed to be in.
What I see here is a lot of passion and skill going in to a game that will be unavoidably and uncharitably compared to the game it so clearly wants to imitate, and in the worst way.
It will still get a lot of hate, not because gamers are terrible (even if they are), not because it copied something great (and it clearly did), but because it didn't do anything new.

Please Gami prove me wrong! I would love to see this game go new places instead of just retreading old ground.

[Cierroth]

I agree. I don't mind if this game is like Hollow Knight. I love metroidvanias - wheetever if it is like Hollow Knight or not. The only HATE I have with this game is the difficulty. WHY MAKE IT SO HARD!?

[Potatoman#671]

My issue is not really the artstyle, its the individual parts. I love hk's style and gameplay, and would love to see more of it in this world, I just think that when a specific animation or graphic, especially one that could easily have been something completely different, like the pickup animation, looks more like an hk skin or mod, there's a problem.

Still though, I do really like the overall character design, and having the same artstyle and vibe as hk is not bad, just let Deviator, deviate a bit from the source material, at least in terms of the individual animations.

[Zepondrax]

Thankyou, yes on youtube i saw everyone whinging its like a rip off of Hollow Kngiht. yes it can remind you of Hollow Knight but this game has potential and looks good, so looking forward to full release and hopefully a good price

Originally posted by DMYTRO:

Hey, I love Hollow Knight as much as the next guy but nobody deserves hate for making their game a bit too similar to the game you like or even love.

I definitely see the similarities, but I also see similarities in Crowsworn. In both cases I could look at a screenshot and point to a location in HK it reminds me of.

If they can make a game that plays as well as HK then we should be happy about it because we have two great games.

What would Team Cherry think of you all hating on people you don't even know. We don't hate on companies making computer cases that all look the same.

I implore you, please, don't do this. We have enough hatred in this world already.

Let's just enjoy the games. If you enjoy Hollow Knight then go play it again. And they buy Silksong (whenever it comes out).

I doubt that sales of Deviator will somehow impact the sales of HK. If anything it may bring even more people to HK community.

I wish you all a very pleasant year. :HappyEshe:

[Giffsen]

Originally posted by DMYTRO:

Hey, I love Hollow Knight as much as the next guy but nobody deserves hate for making their game a bit too similar to the game you like or even love.

I definitely see the similarities, but I also see similarities in Crowsworn. In both cases I could look at a screenshot and point to a location in HK it reminds me of.

If they can make a game that plays as well as HK then we should be happy about it because we have two great games.

What would Team Cherry think of you all hating on people you don't even know. We don't hate on companies making computer cases that all look the same.

I implore you, please, don't do this. We have enough hatred in this world already.

Let's just enjoy the games. If you enjoy Hollow Knight then go play it again. And they buy Silksong (whenever it comes out).

I doubt that sales of Deviator will somehow impact the sales of HK. If anything it may bring even more people to HK community.

I wish you all a very pleasant year. :HappyEshe:

Me if I wanted to farm Steam points by defending art theft

[Zepondrax]

I reckon it will be a good game on full release

Originally posted by Giffsen:

Originally posted by DMYTRO:

Hey, I love Hollow Knight as much as the next guy but nobody deserves hate for making their game a bit too similar to the game you like or even love.

I definitely see the similarities, but I also see similarities in Crowsworn. In both cases I could look at a screenshot and point to a location in HK it reminds me of.

If they can make a game that plays as well as HK then we should be happy about it because we have two great games.

What would Team Cherry think of you all hating on people you don't even know. We don't hate on companies making computer cases that all look the same.

I implore you, please, don't do this. We have enough hatred in this world already.

Let's just enjoy the games. If you enjoy Hollow Knight then go play it again. And they buy Silksong (whenever it comes out).

I doubt that sales of Deviator will somehow impact the sales of HK. If anything it may bring even more people to HK community.

I wish you all a very pleasant year. :HappyEshe:

Me if I wanted to farm Steam points by defending art theft

[Yenoham]

Man people need to calm the F down. Calling plagiarism and a bunch of other crap. The arguments are so dumb. Guess every fighting game, every racing game, every type of game, there can only be one. The demo was great the controls and combat feel very tight, and the atmosphere is great. Keep doing what you’re doing devs! Looks like this will be a great indie hit!

[YTKA]

I dont really care that everyone says its a copy of hk, i can only say that i want to play more of the games like hk, and this one with demo gave me vibes that i wanted for so long... if the game is REALLY going to release this year, i will buy it emidiatly

[Zepondrax]

I think it will be good too

Originally posted by Yenoham:

Man people need to calm the F down. Calling plagiarism and a bunch of other crap. The arguments are so dumb. Guess every fighting game, every racing game, every type of game, there can only be one. The demo was great the controls and combat feel very tight, and the atmosphere is great. Keep doing what you’re doing devs! Looks like this will be a great indie hit!

[Eugene]

I don't hate this game for the similarities. I don't hate devs, I don't hate people who enjoy this game. I wouldn't mind a game like HK. I can ignore the allegations of "art theft". However...

Deviator is so similar to HK that it looks like a free mod for HK, like Pale Court.
Deviator looks like a Hollow Knight-themed sheetpost. A meme, a joke. A Clownfield 2042, but for Silksong. A game worth 1$ and 30 minutes of gameplay for gags.

And this is sad, because developers clearly committed quite a lot of effort into this game. I don't think they want their game to be seen as a joke.

I would buy this game if it turns out to be distinct enough that it does not look like Hollow Knight parody. Not in the state I see it now.

[Deja Vu]

Originally posted by Giffsen:

Me if I wanted to farm Steam points by defending art theft

Not just art theft - most of the gameplay and animations are cloned. Competition is good for consumers - but stealing/no originality is just being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ person/group.

[Wehzy]

The only people who hate on this game are childish hollow night fanboys.

They think no other game has ever copied a different game before. Their logic is actually hilarious.

[V I D A L]

If I was Team Cherry I would be on the phone with my lawyers right about now.

I hope this gets a lawsuit and cease and desist. You can make a game of the same style of course, but this has the same animations, the same gameplay, same art, same environments, same enemies.. I wouldn't be surprise if it's using stolen code.

[Upright]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

If I was Team Cherry I would be on the phone with my lawyers right about now.

I hope this gets a lawsuit and cease and desist. You can make a game of the same style of course, but this has the same animations, the same gameplay, same art, same environments, same enemies.. I wouldn't be surprise if it's using stolen code.

Same? I'd say "like" ....Hollow Knight is a popular game...it's to be expected that there will be games that are inspired by it. At the end of the day people will vote with there wallets and reviews. I for one think it's completely acceptable, especially at $6.99. I have a feeling it's going to be a great game.